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A change in my teaching of Qigong?

regardie

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Hello,

It has been nearly 8 years that I was teachin Qigong in France. I have two spots. One is with an association I created, and where i'M still the president. As for now, I had some some lows with it, nearly holding everything at the same time. The change of board last year left me with double work, as the two other guys had health issue. I am a bit exhausted and teached only every two weeks.

So I asked yi two questions:
Should I stay president of the association: 35.2>64

Should I stop teaching in the assocition? : 19.1.3.6>46

The other is with an association where I teach only. The members ar very demanding, and I had to deal with a childish rebelious behaviour from some of them. This course has been scheduled nearly each week since 7 years, and I don't have many people in it (only 15).

I asked yi again, should I stop teaching in B. Association? : 51.5>17

I know a yes/no answer is difficult, but in the last question, I've seen an interpretation of the answer to the positive and the opposite depending on the source I read...

I hope you can help and enjoy doing so!

I wish you all the best! :bows:
 

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Should I stay president of the association: 35.2 → 64
Yes, you are standing on cracking ice but the shore is near, persevere.
Slowly the problems with authority chaos (fire above water, inverted kettle/fireplace) will be resolved.

Should I stop teaching in the association? : 19.1 → 7.3 → 46.6 → 18 (Recheck the lines)
You need to resolve the leadership issues (7.3).
You can not continue like this, taking too much on yourself (46.6).
Find somebody to help you with management(19.1) and bring the order back (18).

19.6 an excellent line, showing you as a sage that returns to teach people his wisdom after retreating for a while.


Should I stop teaching in B. Association? : 51.5 → 17

Richmond, 51.5
Shock comes and goes repeatedly, Danger.
Nothing is lost and things need doing.

h17:
Continuing to follow the life force, the tao, our circumstances, may sometimes seem to be an error of not asserting our individuality enough. Our situation is not, however, a haphazard affair, It is the choice of our inner need; to follow this rather than an identified desire brings about the supreme success of following our own particular pattern of growth and completion.

The rebellious attitudes of your students are just minor annoyances, "things need doing", persevere :)
 

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hi!

thank you for your answer. you're right Should I stop teaching in the association? : 19.1 → 7.3 → 46.6 → 18
The movement results in 18.

what S. Karcher tells about 18:
Corruption and Pestilence. The source of success.
Advantageous to step in the great stream. Harvesting.
Before "Seedburst" three days, after "seedburst" three days.

I have the feeling of something rotten, wrong in my association. Karcher speaks of searching out what is posonous, rotten. That's strange because some times ago that made me ill. I thought, felt something wasn't as it shoul be. he tells "search out", so I figure out that is with the problem of management. I have great doubt about the honesty of the treasurer... In fact, I was always waiting for a underhand trick ...

About 51.5 >17 my feeling are mixed. I'd like to have more time to do something else, like learning chinese. And as it's quite difficult to find some lessons in my area, i found the possibility in an university but the same day I teach in B....

Thank you again for your answer, perhaps you can give some hint on the karcher way of seeing 18 hex.

Have a nice day! :bows:
 

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Should I stay president of the association? 35,2 - 64

In Hex 35, Jin, we have light (Li) above devotion (K'un) - to adhere to brightness, perception and illumination with devotion is the path of a true servitor. The I Ching sees this as a correct path for you to follow but it must be done with insight, perception and wide flexibility. As with many positions of leadership, what is often seen as a position of honour and prestige is, if fulfilled correctly, actually a position of service provider. Try to see your role as enabling and supporting others in the fulfilment of their Dao. Their lack of response and gratitude is difficult to endure (2nd yin) and very unsettling (Zhi Gua - Hex 64) but you are being asked to carry this burden - "Treading the path of obedience, one here practices rectitude and does not let the will deviate because of any lack of response."-Wang Bi.

The Parallel Nuclear Progression (39,1 - 63) is also indicating very clearly that you should halt (not quit) in the face of this obstruction and respond to it with settled contentment (Hex.63).

Should I stop teaching in the association? 19,1,3,6 - 46

"Above the Lake is the Earth: this constitutes the image of Lin. In the same way the noble man is both inexhaustible in his powers to edify others and feel concern for them and limitless in his practice of magnanimity and protection toward the common folk." - Wang Bi
The common folk are represented by the trigram K'un, the noble man's guidance and protection come about through Tui - mouth, speaking, giving. I won't give any further advice on this passage as I'm sure you will have perceived its meaning instantly.

1st yang - A very favourable line which gives a very positive indication to your future guidance of the group. A possible development is indicated in the capable support from a female member.

3rd yin - this line is issuing a warning. The third line should, ideally, be a yang line but you possibly have a tendency to approach this aspect of your teaching using the yin qualities of flattery, and comfortable intimacies within the group. I myself can't see this doing much harm but the commentary is advising you to adopt a more disciplined approach.

6th yin - This line is urging you to keep your relationships within the group at a fairly simplistic level based primarily on simple honesty. Again, within a healing context this guidance has to be treated with careful consideration.

The Parallel Nuclear Progression - (24,2,4-54) This is urging you very clearly to return (withdraw) from your consideration of stopping teaching. Note carefully 24,4 which is urging you to withdraw from the influence of others and return alone to the correct path.
 

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I thank you for your answer. Sorry for the delay. I was simply meditating on the answer that really shook me a lot. I had trouble sleeping. OK I understand although I have a terrible need to do something else due to health issues ( can you imagine a qigong teacher with some troubles). I asked yi in which way shall I develop my association. It gave 39 2.5 >46. If I understand it deals mainly with the size and shape of my ideas and desire and theirs adaptability to reality. May someone telling me on this last question? Thank and have a nice day. :)
 
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Should I stay president of the association: 35.2>64

Answers come naturally.
35 - Discovery

2 - One accepts to continue alone when a close one comes to them.
In the making
64 - Instability

One must show patience and only act knowingly. They are cautious and inform their relatives.
http://taoscopy.com/en/consultation/868787/

64 suggests that you talk about your difficulties to your relatives.
The Yi suggests that you stop (continue alone). Then someone close will come to you.


Should I stop teaching in the assocition? : 19.1.3.6>46(18)



19 - To accompany

One calls the youngest so they come back.

1 - One goes before others stop.

3 - One takes care of the common interest.

6 - One stops reluctantly because others call for a pause.
In the making
18 - Disorder

One needs to abandon their business and make themself available to patiently soften their most embarrassing flaws, in order to be able to inspire trust and be engaged by those who can help them.
http://taoscopy.com/en/consultation/976886/

You don't get easy readings do you? I had to consult the Yi more than once to get that one.

Line 1 yes leave before someone stops

Line 3 is about taking care of your association

Line 6 someone is asking you to stop teaching in your association

The outcome is 18: abandon your business (association), you have something to repair, a relationship of trust that has been endangered by your association.

My take is that the Yi is hinting that you should spend more time with someone close, a relative, family or close friend, rather than taking care of your association.

If it is not someone then it might be about your body, restoring your health.

I asked yi again, should I stop teaching in B. Association? : 51.5>17

51 - Shock

Something is coming which enables the identification of a problem.

5 - One holds firmly when the shocks start, accompanies the others and endures the shocks until they end.
In the making
17 - To guide


When one rejoices others, they join with them.


Yes continue the shocks, stop teaching. 17 suggests that it's time for you to rest and enjoy life.

I asked yi in which way shall I develop my association. It gave 39 2.5 >46

39 - Uncertainty

Facing a difficulty requires a patient study. If one fails, they will receive help after showing that they have done their upmost.

2 - Many difficulties to feed others.

5 - Problems that cannot be solved alone, one receives a visit when they needed it.
In the making
46 - Taking form

One is guided until they reach knowledge.

You let them deal with the difficulties (line 2), but when they really really need help (line 5), then you come on your white horse to give them a hand, 46 suggests teaching.
 

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Thank you for your reply. Now I'm more confused, due to the opposite answers. Why is there so much difference in the interpretation, someone can give me a hint.. I thank you
 
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We don't use the same comments. I get mine directly from the Yi.

Also, 35.2 is usually seen as a great result. Let me tell you that a few years ago a farmer has been eaten by his pigs. I usually don't consult on news like that (I don't even read them), but that day I did it. The Yi gave me 35.2, I was really shocked.

Then when I asked the Yi about the line I got: One accepts to continue alone when a close one comes to them.
So at first, I related it to this part:

Michael Garner said one of the hogs had bitten his brother last year, after he had accidentally stepped on a piglet.

"He said he was going to kill it, but when I asked him about it later, he said he had changed his mind," he told the Register-Guard

Here is what the classical comment (Wilhelm) says:
Progressing, but in sorrow.
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Then one obtains great happiness from one's ancestress.

But I don't think that the Yi was talking about the piglet and the hog.

But they have not ruled out the possibility that the farmer could have collapsed from a medical emergency, such as a heart attack.

My interpretation is that the farmer died (accepted to continue alone) then the pigs got him (a close one came to him).

Seriously, I think that 35.2 was my favorite line in the I Ching, but now I feel uneasy when I see it. That can explain why I don't interpret it as so good for you.
 

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