A new beginning?

[Garcia]

Hello!

Asking for your help with this reading because I am having a bit of difficulty understanding what Yi is trying to tell me... and it is important enough that I want to get it clear.

I started a relationship a couple of months ago. He seems to be truly wonderful, really into me. When we are together, it is a bit like magic. He is, however, still married and undergoing the process of separation from his wife... which appears to be lining up to be a long and difficult one.

I asked Yi:

1- tell me about my relationship with G?: Hex 15 uc
2- where is my relationship with G leading? Hex 35 uc
3- what should I do to give it the best chance to work out? 43.2.3.5.6 to 21
4- what is my best course of action regarding G? 52.1.3.6 to 24

From my limited understanding, those answers don't appear to be too promising... my take on the answers is:

1-stop dreaming and get back to reality
2- make the most of opportunities because they won't last
3-vulnerability and trouble of some sort
4-do nothing and get away from there

Yi seems to be discouraging me from continuing with G but I would truly appreciate your point of view and comments.

Thank you all in advance!!! :bows:

 

[remod]

I will make an attempt but the usual caveats apply here: you're the only one that could really understand what the Yi meant. We (from the outside) can only guess.

I would also like to know if you asked all these in a short time frame or over some day.

Anyway (interpreted as if I was the one asking):

1) I think 15 is a raccomendation to you (and possibly G) not to be excessive in your relationship. Try to mitigate your character. Don't be excessive even in your good qualities (maybe a suggestion about not trying to impress each other?). Be modest. I don't see where you are reading "stop dreaming". Quite the contrary you got the clear answer that you can carry this through! The mountain (something big) is emerging from the Earth!

2) Hex 35 is telling you that this relationship could (with your intervention) bear good fruits. Again your are putting some negativity year, I can't see anything about the fact that "the opportunities don't last". Here there is a King who was capable to multiply and put to good use what he received.
I take this as an indication that "this relation" could lead to good things, if you act properly.

3) I guess the Yi tried to be as specific as he could with this 4 moving lines! What you should do, he says, is to stay calm and resolute. Don't fall pray of your anxieties. Even if you hear loud cries (line 2) or feel hurt (line 3) if you're resolute you will succeed (line 4). But beware not to do the opposite and be careless as this will bring no good (line 6). The hex 21 reinforce this sense of "biting the bullet" and move forward with confidence.

4) I guess the Yi Ching was trying, again, to be as specific as possibile and is shouting "BE YOURSELF". Stay still, stand on what you are. Don't be so confused that you don't recognize even what is right behind your eyes. You can make mistakes (with no arm) (line 1) but you shold not restrain your self or suffucate your feeling (in fear?) (line 3). Only from true, inner calmness you can get the best out of this situation.

---
Now that I re-read what I wrote I recognize that I implicitly made a lot of assumptions about you and your situation and those could have led me to this interpretation. I might be completely wrong in my assumptions and, hence, my reading be completely off. But my finger is too close to the Enter key for not sending this

I just wish you the best.

Remo

 

[Garcia]

Thank you! your interpretation makes complete sense and brings a huge sense of relief... Of things being right.

The questions were asked one after the other in a very short time frame. I wanted to know, to understand what the Yi was telling me.

G feels right... We share so much joy and laughter... And love... Sometimes it feels just too good to be true.

I do appreciate very much your pressing that enter key. Thank you for taking the time to respond and for your insight!!!!

 

[heylise]

Another good question to ask, not necessarily of the oracle but of your common sense: is he really actually truly divorcing? I saw the 52 to 24...

 

[remod]

Hi Heylise. You mean specifically line 6 of 52, right?

 

[Trojina]

I started a relationship a couple of months ago. He seems to be truly wonderful, really into me. When we are together, it is a bit like magic. He is, however, still married and undergoing the process of separation from his wife... which appears to be lining up to be a long and difficult one.

Er what exactly does 'undergoing the process of separation from his wife' really mean here ? Does it mean he is still with her ? Then er 52>24 looks like going nowhere

I asked Yi:

1- tell me about my relationship with G?: Hex 15 uc
2- where is my relationship with G leading? Hex 35 uc
3- what should I do to give it the best chance to work out? 43.2.3.5.6 to 21
4- what is my best course of action regarding G? 52.1.3.6 to 24

From my limited understanding, those answers don't appear to be too promising... my take on the answers is:

1-stop dreaming and get back to reality
2- make the most of opportunities because they won't last
3-vulnerability and trouble of some sort
4-do nothing and get away from there

Yi seems to be discouraging me from continuing with G but I would truly appreciate your point of view and comments.

I agree with you. The 43>21 looks like making some hard choices. 52.1.3.6>24. Is this going anywhere ?

It does all rest on whether he is really still with his wife or not. I think LiSe has a point. I'd be highly suspicious if he is still living with his wife and telling you it's so difficult to separate. It's not. If he wanted to leave he could. Otherwise if he is still living with her then he is her husband and you are his mistress which is not a great place to be. Perhaps this is not the case ?

 

[Trojina]

Hi Heylise. You mean specifically line 6 of 52, right?

If you take the two hexagrams, stilling and returning together it says a lot . I don't think she was just focusing on line 6 but she can tell you when she comes back

 

[remod]

Well, as I said I can be completely off.

I read it from the perspective of the enquirer and I can't tell what will happen.

52.6 is the only line that warns to be careful and keep the eyes opened.

All the other hexagrams (that I assumed to be asked in rapid succession, as Garcia confirmed) to me sound as a response to someone that was overly concerned about the situation, up to the point of not being able to see what was the right course of actions. And the advice, to me, was to stand with your feet on the hert, not be excessive. That would bring good results (which does not mean that the relationship is going to last but simply that whatever the outcome, it will be the "right" one for the enquirer).

I was never able to hear the I Ching telling me what will happen in a given circumstance. I can hear him telling me what to carefully ponder and how to choose (and recognize) the right course of actions.

Just my 2c.

 

[Trojina]

Yes, I'm not saying you were wrong, I don't know what will happen either.


But this rang alarm bells

He is, however, still married and undergoing the process of separation from his wife... which appears to be lining up to be a long and difficult one.

 

[Tim K]

about my relationship with G? 15
You are being humble, almost 54-like, navigating a complex social situation.
Things need re-balancing for the both sides to be equal.

where is my relationship with G leading? 35
To a decision, it's not the opposing 5, something is coming and soon.
Open discussions, meetings.

what should I do to give it the best chance to work out? 43.2.3.5.6 → 21
Here I think is the key answer, 43,21,35 all point to a meeting with high official.
43 is especially clear on this
Legge:
Requires (in him who would fulfil its meaning) the exhibition (of the culprit's guilt) in the royal court,
and a sincere and earnest appeal (for sympathy and support), with a consciousness of the peril (involved in cutting off the criminal).
He should (also) make announcement in his own city, and show that it will not be well to have recourse at once to arms.
(In this way) there will be advantage in whatever he shall go forward to.
State your feelings openly, make your wishes known, have a chat together with his wife (if the divorce is on the way and she already let him go, she can dispel any illusions you may have about him, she knows a lot about him).

Also can point directly to legal proceedings (21), the divorce, documents, etc.


Transitional hexes (49, 17, 51) along with 43's lines show nasty stuff though.
Some not so pretty truth will come out and you probably will go away from it all, 43.5/51.6.


what is my best course of action regarding G? 52.1.3.6 → 24
52-24 says stop, reverse, return.
Transitional lines say - Disillusion yourself.


Last two readings seem to contradict each other, but I think the advice is if you want to have a relationship, the best thing is to be open about it. Give that a try.
If you don't want to work for it - well just get away.