Am I being replaced

[Hepzibah]

17.2 to 58 in response to a question am I being replaced. I feel insecure about my role in this college and that I am being replaced . Might this be saying it’s a childish question ? It could well be coming from a childish insecurity ... many thanks

 

[Freedda]

Hepzibah, I'm curious, are you talking about a job or postion you hold at a college, or something else? Best, D.

 

[rosada]

I would interpret this to mean change is in the air, or at least the line seems to clearly reflect your concern.
Are you in a position where they might want some one more experienced, the "older man"?
Or is it possible on some level it is you that would like to move on. Do you feel may be missing opportunities for advancement if "young boy" like, you cling to this position?

58 is a positive omen for talking things over before taking action so I think you have an opportunity to discuss concerns and find different solutions before just leaving the job.

 

[Hepzibah]

Dear Fredda , Rosada , My position is just part time I just give a few classes per year but I absolutely love it . At the end of a recent class they gave me a clap. The ‘joyous communication ‘ that’s me in the class. The older man is the person In charge. But there is a ‘younger ‘ person who has a little more time than me and is I feel sidelining me . I truly don’t want this to happen as it’s a joy but feel powerless to stop it . Then in the middle of the night I worry am I being childish about this : the signs are subtle and I worry are I misinterpreting then : this teaching is a labour of love for me .

 

[Hepzibah]

I asked ‘what is my future in the college . I thought that was a good question as it is not asking about my worries or insecurities . I received 34.3.4 to 19 . .3 seems to be warnimv me and the 54 is conveying my helplessness in this situation . But in .4 I break through this situation. I feel there is advice here on how to break through this situation but I am not sure what the advice is .

 

[Freedda]

Hepzibah, when you say

The ‘joyous communication ‘ that’s me in the class. The older man is the person In charge. But there is a ‘younger ‘ person who has a little more time than me and is I feel sidelining me ....

... I am a bit unclear where these differt people and parts are from: are you getting 'joyous communication' from the name of 58, the related hexagram? And where do the 'younger person' and the 'older man' come from? In the reading somewhere, or in real life?

Also, you have some odd characters in your text - which happens to me as well from time to time (maybe when copying in certain fonts, I am not sure?) - but they make your post harder to read/understand. D.

 

[Trojina]

Dear Fredda , Rosada , My position is just part time I just give a few classes per year but I absolutely love it . At the end of a recent class they gave me a clap. The ‘joyous communication ‘ that’s me in the class. The older man is the person In charge. But there is a ‘younger ‘ person who has a little more time than me and is I feel sidelining me . I truly don’t want this to happen as it’s a joy but feel powerless to stop it . Then in the middle of the night I worry am I being childish about this : the signs are subtle and I worry are I misinterpreting then : this teaching is a labour of love for me .

Your posts are virtually unreadable to me, they are full of strange signs and squiggles like this $£££*@@TM$$ it's so annoying I don't know why this happens not just in your post but in some others to.

 

[Hepzibah]

It is punctuation marks from my phone . Commas and inverted commas , exclamation and question marks . I have used no punctuation marks in this post apart from full stops so it is readable. This may be because I use my mobile phone .

 

[Hepzibah]

Hello fredda,The communicating joy is from the relating hexagram 58, it seems that when 17 moves 58 zhi its means communicating joy with its childlike openness. tied to the small child is in line 2 . these were my own attepmts to link these aspects of the readings to my own life.

 

[Freedda]

Thanks Hepzibah. I think I get the connections you're making to 'joyous communication' and the young child, but for the older man?

And I'm going to assume what you said reads something like:

My position is just part time I just give a few classes per year but I absolutely love it . At the end of a recent class they gave me a clap. The 'joyous communication,' that's me in the class. The older man is the person In charge. But there is a 'younger' person who has a little more time than me and is I feel sidelining me. I truly don''t want this to happen as it's a joy (What's a joy? You job?) but feel powerless to stop it. Then in the middle of the night I worry am I being childish about this: the signs are subtle and I worry are I misinterpreting then: this teaching is a labour of love for me .

And it does seem your 'hard stops' work better.

 

[Hepzibah]

That’s exactly it Fredda thank you so much for taking the time to translate . The joyous communication is me teaching in the classroom . I love this teaching . I feel the students learn and I learn . But I feel a younger person with more time to invest than I have is sidelining me . But I may be wrong in this . Recently I have been listening to the hay house summit 2019 and if I said to Louise hay I feel someone is sidelining me , she would ask me to look inside and see who am I sidelining or what part of me am I sidelining . In other words all starts within us . Anyhow the one thing I am definite on is the absolute joyous communication of the teaching . I really love it.

 

[Freedda]

Thank Hepzibah. Not to harp on this too much, but I'm still curious about the 'older man' you mentioned???

 

[Freedda]

Hepizbah, after all the harping I've been doing and all the questions, at least I can offer a response ....

For the imagary of Hex. 17 you have 'within the pool (Lake) is Thunder'. The trigram Lake most often represents Joy, as in the joy you feel with your job (and as in the doubled Lakes of 58!).

Thunder is often a shock or jolt, or maybe a new idea or emotion that shows up suddenly, unannounced. That alone may not make it a bad thing - and sometimes a sudden 'kick in the butt' is what we need to get us going! But here, at least so far, I don't know if it's good or bad? Perhaps maybe it's just a big burp or bubble that's suddenly showed up on the surface of the Lake? ... and now it's past?

So, whether good or no, you are still given the advide from the oracle, that it is, 'Worthwhile to be dedicated,' and this is 'Not a mistake.'

So, perhaps it is saying that continued joy can come from you continuing to dedicate yourself to you work - regardless of what fears you may have about your job.

Line 17.2 reads: Bound to the little child. Giving up one of maturity.

That is a bit of an odd line for me. At first I thought that 'bound to the little child' sounded harsh, so constraining, but then I thought about the times I've seen young children on a field trip, where they are all 'bound' to one another - or at least to one other - so they don't get stray or become lost.

So could this line mean that to be tied to a small child - to be committed to a child's outlook and innocence - is what will be of use for you? Of course, you might have to give up a more 'mature' outlook (at least for this situation) - and I wonder, in this case, is this 'maturity' possibly the part of you that is worried - as an adult might be - about your job, and about being replaced?

In summary, the advice may be to dedicate (or re-dedicate) yourself to your job, and to perhaps be more innocent (and maybe trusting?) - so here you might have a 'joyful innocence'. This outlook - to face (or replace) adversity with innocence and joy - might itself seem like a 'shock' to our usual way of dealing with adversity. But it also seems like a good thing, however long it's meant to last.

 

[Hepzibah]

thats exactly it Fredda and thank you for going to the trouble of translating. The main thing is that I absolutely love the teaching position but another younger person who has more time to invest than me, is I feel sidelining me. however I was listening to the hay house summit 2019 recently and if I said to Louise hay I felt I was being sidelined, she would reply by asking me to look deep inside and see who I am sidelining or what part of me I am sidelining. so maybe all these things start inside.

 

[Hepzibah]

fredda, thank you so much for your lovely response. I am very happy with this take on the reading. the older man is in line 2 and in my situation the man in charge of the college is an older man and the final decisions rest with him.

 

[Trojina]

thats exactly it Fredda and thank you for going to the trouble of translating. The main thing is that I absolutely love the teaching position but another younger person who has more time to invest than me, is I feel sidelining me. however I was listening to the hay house summit 2019 recently and if I said to Louise hay I felt I was being sidelined, she would reply by asking me to look deep inside and see who I am sidelining or what part of me I am sidelining. so maybe all these things start inside.

Louise Hay writes utmost garbage, ridiculous things.

 

[rosada]

"17.2 Tied to the small child, losing the mature man" - Hilary

17.2 is about choosing who or what one is going to follow and a warning that one cannot behave in childish ways and expect be treated as a mature adult. The puzzle then is to figure out how this applies to Hepzibah's situation. She tells us that she actually is the one with more experience and thus might be the "mature" or "older" one, but the other person may be favored because they have more time to give to the work. So which is the better choice for the employer? Do they want the person with more experience or are they feeling sticking with Hepzibah is being tied to a choice they have out grown? 58 might even be saying it's a toss-up.

However, to let go an experienced reliable successful teacher to hire an unknown doesn't sound like mature thinking so I'm betting your job is secure, even though the IC doesn't come right out and say that.
Sometimes the I Ching describes a situation in ways that while it doesn't really give us the answer, it describes the situation in such a way that we can see the answer for ourselves. Thus it seems to me the I Ching is saying, "Hmm, will the employer act like a little kid and go for the new, or show mature reasoning and stick with the old? What do you think?"

 

[Trojina]

Line 17.2 reads: Bound to the little child. Giving up one of maturity.

That is a bit of an odd line for me. At first I thought that 'bound to the little child' sounded harsh, so constraining, but then I thought about the times I've seen young children on a field trip, where they are all 'bound' to one another - or at least to one other - so they don't get stray or become lost.

When it says 'bound' it doesn't mean actually physically tied, I think it's more like to cleave to, you know like who will you cleave to the mature or the immature aspect.

There's no judgment in either line although most commentaries seem to look on line 2 in a negative sense.

I am very happy with this take on the reading. the older man is in line 2 and in my situation the man in charge of the college is an older man and the final decisions rest with him.

Where do you see an older man in line 2 ? All it says is

'Bound to the small child,
Letting the mature man go.' (Hilary's translation)

I can't see how this is talking about the man in charge of the college

If it's taken literally then the mature person is being let go and as you are older it could be you if we take it literally which we don't have to.

Perhaps you should voice your concerns somehow at the college ? If she's willing to do more than you she is going to get more work than you, unless you carve out some sort of niche for yourself ?

 

[Hepzibah]

Trojina and Rosada, thank you for responding. Am happy to flow along with this one and give of my best to this position and continue with the joy of communicating. if the time comes when I am asked to go, then I will go, happy in the knowledge that I gave of my best. I really don't think that will happen. and definitely I am being a little childish here in this situation, over reading things or feeling insecure. am doing my best.

 

[Freedda]

fredda, thank you so much for your lovely response. I am very happy with this take on the reading. the older man is in line 2 and in my situation the man in charge of the college is an older man and the final decisions rest with him.

Thanks for looking at my response. My interpretation of line 2 doesn't mention a man, so that is why I was confused.

I see that Wilhelm's translation is 'Six in the second place means: If one clings to the little boy, One loses the strong man. ... so perhaps that is more along the lines of what you're reading.

So, looking at this again, maybe it could mean, that if you are too naive or innocent in how you approach this, you could lose making a mature response? The only thing is, what would constitute being 'mature' here? A response based on your worries and fears? Or one based on joy and and even 'joyful innocence'? This later response, however, strikes me as counter to what our culture or society might expect as being 'mature.'

But, I'm rambling here. No worries either way.

Best, D.

 

[Hepzibah]

Just to update . I had an email from the college this evening that my contribution is irreplaceable.

 

[Trojina]

That's strange that a college would email you on a Sunday night to tell you that you are irreplaceable.

 

[rosada]

Fabulous!