Am i getting it?

[sugarlobster]

hi all,

i've asked the yi to comment on whether i'm getting what it's saying clearly - whether the channel is clear or i'm getting misled by environmental noise, so to speak...

answer was 31.1,3>17

what do you reckon?

xx sl

 

[candid]

Sugar,

It sure appears your connection is clear. Only thing I see other than that is that you're not completely at peace with the answer. My guess from this is that you're pursuing the matter perhaps a bit to strenuously? But it sure seems as though the influence is flowing unobstructed.

I reckon it says the answer will become clearer after you've had a good night's rest; put it to bed, so to speak. Reminds me of the Meatloaf tune: ?Baby, let me sleep on it, I'll give you an answer in the morning!?

C

 

[sugarlobster]

candid,

thanks for that. you're right, i wasn't at peace with the answer, but mostly because it seemed the yi was telling me what i wanted to hear - to stick to something as it still contains the seeds of greatness in it (50.1>14), although i was going through a real crisis of faith about the whole matter. the yi recommends that i give myself a break, but also not to give up (45.1>17).

and yes, it's all much clearer after a good nights' sleep. i asked for clarity as i went to bed and sure enough, i got it in the morning!

you have a very light touch with the yi, candid, and you're very perceptive. thanks again!

love,
xx sl

 

[tashij]

hang in there sugar lobster u got my vote!
****
; )

 

[sugarlobster]

hey, thanks tash, every little helps
big hug,
xx sl

 

[dobro p]

Hi, Sugarlobster.

31's about influence, about being influenced and impelled. It's also one of those hexagrams where the main text is very positive but the individual lines much less so. Without knowing your situation or the way you're relating to the oracle, it's hard to say, but the two lines you drew talk of you being a bit impulsive maybe. It's interesting that you drew 31 in answer to your question. You ask the oracle: "Am I getting it?" and the oracle answers: "You're being influenced by me in this way - you're being a bit impulsive."

 

[arien]

Hey Sugar (hu... this didnt sound too well),

One most important aspect of 31, is that the influence does not result from an act of will, quite the opposite, the mere intention of influencing destroys any possibility of success

Its by being receptive that we allow otheres to approach us and become influenced by us

Now you figure what this means on the context of your question

 

[sugarlobster]

mmmh... is the yi's influence coming through and i'm following it without resistance, or am i being influenced by line 3 and letting it affect my understanding?

still none the wiser

i'll just have to wait and see, i guess... sometimes i find the yi so frustrating!

love,
xx sl

 

[bradford_h]

Hi Sugarlobster
I'd read this as "it's starting to strike a chord"
but the resonance is not resounding through your whole being yet. Just the beginning levels.
In transitional hexagrams, there is also a step through 49.3, when talk of change has circled three times, then it will be believed.
I'd call this reading encouraging, but a reminder that understanding takes time. That should not be embarrassing or frustrating. I've been at this for 37 years and I'm still learning from it every day.
b

 

[candid]

Sugar,

I agree, it can be and is frustrating at times.

When you're on a train looking out the window, you don't see how far you've come, only motion. Don't worry, you're moving ahead and leaving behind. Let the train do the work and enjoy the scenery.

Arien's point is strong: "influence does not result from an act of will."

What does require an act of the will is opening up, letting down, allowing things room to breathe.

I believe you are the wiser.

C

 

[sugarlobster]

hi guys,

thanks loads for your encouragement.

well, today i had another conversation with the yi, which if truth be told felt like i was talking to a friend face to face, everything developing very organically and crystal clear.

the feeling of really 'getting it' was very strong - but my queries had been about a relationship matter so i'm a bit wary that i'm letting my own expectations get in the way of clear interpretation - so at the end of it, i asked the yi again to comment on how accurately i had interpreted the answers -

yi responded 18 - OUCH!!

so i asked could it please be a bit more specific and got 43.1,4>48 - the lines talk about making mistakes, and not hearing the advice that is offered repeatedly. although maybe on the whole 43 to 48 is encouraging, so the yi is being stern but constructive even while it's telling me off...

now i *really* don't know what to think...

love,
xx sl

 

[candid]

Hi Sugar,

You asked Yi to comment on your understanding of 31-17 and were told to (18) 'get to work.' How is this a bad thing? If you focus on the spoiled rather than the renewing, that would be a bad thing. But 18 is about setting to work on improvement of conditions. There's nothing bad about that.

Perhaps the confusion lies in 43.1,4 to 48? This is a matter of coming to terms with, resolving the sources of confusion. Your tendency is to press forward in spite of obstacles rather than to pause and await the proper time and inner guidance. Remember 17: to follow.

48 is where you'll find this guidance, wisdom and strength to carry forward your understanding into fruition.

Why kick against the goads? You are being led. If you follow this inner truth as sheep follow their Shepherd all will be well, even if/when things aren't going so well.

C

 

[bradford_h]

hi sugarlobster-
I don't think you're paying attention to the words of th Yi here: 31.1 was stimulus in the toes, now it's 43.1, power in the toes. You're jumping to conclusions, making a false start. I think it's too soon to pay attention to the resultant gua here - understand the lines first.
31.3 transitioned through "when talk has gone three times around, then it will be believed." Now it's 43.3, to hear the words is not comprehension.
You're getting colder, not warmer. Rather than try to figure out your readings, I would try instead to meditate on them, not listen so hard, but really hear. And give it time. And read all you can from a number of sources. And try to grasp what has already been said before castng again.

 

[bradford_h]

One last note-
the Yi has advised following, talked about following, or used the word Sui (to follow) six times now:

31.3 zhi qi sui: managing what follows
Transitional 49.3 follow the developments
zhi 17 Sui, following
45.1 cry for help and helping hand (taking a lead)
zhi 17 Sui, (again) following
43.1 To be led like a sheep, regrets woould pass

I would be tracking (following) these "coincidences" (clues) as well.

 

[sugarlobster]

hi,

lots of good advice there, and food for thought. thanks. giving it all a break, letting things come through and learning to follow.

thanks again for your comments, they've been very helpful.

sl x