Amy Winehouse Hex 25.3 to 13

[yxeli]

What a tragic life- addiction and super highs and super lows...

I asked the Yi 'What happened to her?' (what caused her death)

I saw this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=7365

I dont know why i asked the Yi this, i just got very sad about it and wondered if it was an overdose or what...

Love to hear some feedback...

Rest in peace lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFp-7Zr3ziw

Yx

 

[Trojina]

Good Grief I didn't know she was dead !!

I never watch the news...when did she die ?

I'll google it

 

[Trojina]

I think 25.3 is just accidental death, presuming she messed with so many drugs her body just gave out nothing more mysterious than that...but heck i don't know what she died of yet

 

[yxeli]

It hasn't been reported why she died...yeah apparently found in her london house this afternoon...

But from the thread i got an impression that 25.3 was 'someone else's misdemeanour?'

But i think your probably the right, the simplist explanation is usually the right one...

Yx

 

[Trojina]

googled it..as expected it was drugs and only feel very sorry for her father who appeared to love her very much and did all he could to save her and she just kept on and on and on abusing herself like she thought bodies don't die if you keep doing that.

I really liked her father so I feel more cross with her than anything now...why did she do that to him is all I can think !? Parents just dont ever recover from losing a child...it seems such a thing to inflict and I'm really sad for him and her mum too of course.

Its almost like she totally fell into a stereotype of doomed rock star and totally played the role...and the role bit back. Like the role was already created (ie drugged rock star early death) and she became the tragic heroine when there wasn't really that much tragic about her...but she became that person she embodied in her songs etc and rather than keep her individual strength and rejecting the story created from myth all around her she just got ripped off by it


In that way too I can see 25.3. perhaps she was robbed, by society. A public persona carries alot of crap for people and sometimes has martrydom as part of the myth. If one isn't aware of it one could fall for it (er not that I know of course heh)


Stupid stupid waste and grief for a pile of stupid drugs

and I do feel sad but not for her for her parents


Oh well

 

[Trojina]

I'll go watch UK news must be more info on it

 

[yxeli]

In that way too I can see 25.3. perhaps she was robbed, by society. A public persona carries alot of crap for people and sometimes has martrydom as part of the myth. If one isn't aware of it one could fall for it (er not that I know of course heh)

yeah your completely right, its a if she started believeing the myth..it must be really hard getting so famous so quickly, i keep remembering her when she performed from london live at the grammies...she looked completely shocked by it all...and then having to go through your 20's still getting your own personality straight and having all these strangers judging you, its like britney spears when she shaved all her hair off-...

but yeah, her parents loss is the real heartbreaking story here.

 

[Trojina]

Watched news it still isn't clear exactly why she died though of course drugs seems likley...but she was singing a few nights ago and seemed fine so it may not be drugs

She was one whose voice and lyrics were way beyond her years so when you heard her just talk when she was about 17 it was always strange to see she was just an ordianary young girl who couldn't have actually experienced all the soulful anguish she put into her songs...or maybe she had in another life.

Like Paolo Nutini she sounded years older than she was..though as his songs are generally upbeat maybe his fate will be happier !

I mean Amys first hit was 'Rehab' and she must have been only about 18 or 19 then but she was singing like she already lived a full on life.

No doubt about it she was unique and brilliant





Reminds me I heard that those who wrote ' If Living is without you' a seventies hit
actually did kill themselves...2 people. The lyrics were over and over " I can't live if living is without you, I can't live, I can't give anymore". It was quite a potent suicide song...it made you feel things even if you weren't suicidal so I imagine to sing it must have had quite an impact. There seems to have been other rather macabre associations with the song too. Almost like the reverse impact of positive affirmations. Can you imagine singing over and over "I can't live anymore" and then think of singing over and over words to the effect of "I'm not going to Rehab"


Ah people do suffer for their art and to express our feelings for us

 

[white owl]

Well she was pretty upset that she wasnt preforming to thier standards & at the same time chasing a substance abuse problem. I asked the same quest. & got 26.1..To me this says she over did it on something, but did not willfully want to die, just over did it. sad all around either way ,dosent matter.

I can see where your 25.3 comes in, where it is unexpected this death, all around.It was a mistake.

 

[sooo]

Gosh, who woulda seen that coming. I think that's the honest reaction of most.

But I think the Yi says that she was for real, and that her misfortune was to tie herself to a drifter. That drifter might have been heroin, or a part of herself she could never keep up with. A sad thing, but maybe as a final statement for her life as 'the artist', it was apropos.

 

[hopex]

25.3 a soiled surprise, cattle are able to graze but it is on anothers land.
every positive on one front is a negative on another such is creation. The
wise man knows his gain is anothers loss and weighs his actions carefully.

this is the interpretation I got for this line. May she rest in peace.

 

[cris]

Reminds me I heard that those who wrote ' If Living is without you' a seventies hit
actually did kill themselves...2 people. The lyrics were over and over " I can't live if living is without you, I can't live, I can't give anymore". It was quite a potent suicide song...it made you feel things even if you weren't suicidal so I imagine to sing it must have had quite an impact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badfinger

Thanks for the reference. I did not know about this sad turn of events... Great song anyway.

 

[Trojina]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badfinger

Thanks for the reference. I did not know about this sad turn of events... Great song anyway.

Thanks for the link. I attempted a link but failed as my links often do

I have mixed feelings about the song. It was a big impact on me around the age of 12 when Nillson did it...the thought that adults cannot live anymore unless a certain person loves them is not a healthy one by todays standards...infact someone said once it was the ultimate song of co dependence but the tragedy, the drama the beauty of course appeals to the romance of a young girls soul....but having said that I realise I also very much, mistakenly, took it in as a truth that people could lose the will to live and die because they lost their loved one. Its not a heartening message


In reality of course we all soldier on...mostly. But song lyrics permeate and influence a great deal I think in a very 57 ish way, particularly for the young. Thats why although corny I liked this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlLgvQErn6o

I guess one could say Amy was a kind of firework


I think if that had been around when I was young I would have done better in the exams than hearing this as the truth of adult emotional life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvxT7rRA2fI


Heh 'they don't make songs like that anymore' as my grand ma used to say...maybe its just as well

 

[cris]

The first time I heard "Firework" was when I watched the video in a hotel room, at night, during a tiresome business trip. It really made an impression. I felt like I was 15 again! The power of music...

 

[Trojina]

The first time I heard "Firework" was when I watched the video in a hotel room, at night, during a tiresome business trip. It really made an impression. I felt like I was 15 again! The power of music...

The power of music...very hex 16 !

When I saw the full video I thought it was a beautiful gift she'd made for kids...because I think the full video shows kids in the midst of difficult situations, where they feel powerless and the song is so affirming. I just thought it was a song that could make a difference, that could make some lonely worn down kid somewhere feel better and stronger.

 

[cris]

... apparently some worn out adult too!

 

[Sunfit]

Gosh, who woulda seen that coming. I think that's the honest reaction of most.

Oh heavens many seen that coming including her own family. They expected it and were very worried about her.

The girl had a very serious drug addiction problem for a long time! No secret there.

Have you seen her latest pics? Thin as a skeleton and looking much older than she is?

She has now fallen under the "many" young, rising stars who self destructed (died) at that "27" years old mark like Janice Joplin, Kurt Cobain, Jimmy Hendrix etc...
All 27.
I read an article today on it.

I hope she has more peace now than she did in this world.

She became very famous, very fast, very young and many times they can't handle it.
I believe there is a book on young rising stars called: Too Rich Too Young Too Fast.

Too bad she said no no no to REHAB and that she would not go go go.

She should have said yes. Could have saved her life.

What a tragic waste of a very young life.

R.I.P. Amy.

 

[anemos]

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
have everyone think I'm on the mend

this verse is so powerful !

interesting that the reading discussed here is 25.3> 13

Someone who used to work for many years in a rehab center as a psychologist said that no all of the drug user really seek for death, but what they get from using the drag , something that fills a gap of something else missing.

 

[sooo]

Oh heavens many seen that coming including her own family. They expected it and were very worried about her.

The girl had a very serious drug addiction problem for a long time! No secret there.

I was being sarcastic.

Also caught something on the news about some loner they think she hooked up with, and that she seemed naively involved with a particularly bad drug batch or combination.

 

[anemos]

Also caught something on the news about some loner they think she hooked up with, and that she seemed naively involved with a particularly bad drug batch or combination.

the day of her death or another time?

 

[Sunfit]

I was being sarcastic.

.

Hard to tell on a forum.

 

[sooo]

the day of her death or another time?

It was today they broadcast it. But I think it's too soon to know the facts.

 

[mazaru]

What a tragic life- addiction and super highs and super lows...

I asked the Yi 'What happened to her?' (what caused her death)

I saw this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=7365

I dont know why i asked the Yi this, i just got very sad about it and wondered if it was an overdose or what...

Love to hear some feedback...

Rest in peace lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFp-7Zr3ziw

Yx

Final answer to what caused her death is: "alcohol did." http://news.sky.com/story/1034809/amy-winehouse-inquest-confirms-alcohol-death

But alcohol is what caused her body to quit, but what was the cause of her drinking alcohol while she knew it could kill her?
Lack of love? Life itself?