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lmcevoy

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I asked the Yi
"how do I find the and ally with artistic representation I need and desire at this stage in my career?"

The response was 36, no changes.

My quandary for You:
I don't really understand if this is suggesting inactivity, or passiveness to wait for the right time, or if I have to HIDE a part of who I am to make alliances do what I want/need right now.

Thanks clarity community for your help, as always!!
 

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Would you please rephrase the question. The grammar is confused, and I'm not sure what you mean. Do you need an agent, an illustrator, an art school, or what?
 

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How can I find an agent?
36 unchanging


How can you shine in the darkness? There are several artists at Clarity, and I hope one of them will advise you. My opinion is that it is very difficult to make a living by art unless connected to a company as an illustrator or designer. If your art has originality and incorporates the spirit of the age, it can speak for itself. Art needs to be seen to be recognized, and once you have recognition, agents will look for you. So get your art in exhibitions and competitions.
 

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I do a radio programme highlighting Arts and artists. I assume that others do too the world over and it wouldn't be hard to apply places like that for free advertising. I know I'm always looking for material. Quite often, featuring an artist on the programme gives them a boost and there are a multitude of Arts associations around the globe as well.

I'd also define my market, if you haven't and notice how artists in that market promote themselves. Keeping your overhead costs in mind it's far better to attract somebody who wants you I would think than to pay an agent outright. It's generally the expensive way to go in any Art arena and would make even more sense of the Hex 36 casting.
 

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Hey guys, thanks for your responses.

I should elucidate: I'm an actor, not a visual artist. I have a manager currently and need an agent - the right fit for me now. I like what was said about waiting for someone to want me, but the challenge I face right now is needing an agent to get work (a manager covers other things such as getting said agent but doesn't send actors out to audition). I asked this question because I'm wondering if I need to take a certain route in my thinking that I haven't already undertaken, or if I need to work with a different manager to get involved in meeting more prospective agents, etc.

I truly appreciate your advice, but I think I'm in a different situation than what would be most applicable to your suggestions. SO - that being said I wonder if you have another take on the meaning of hexagram 36. Does it just suggest me waiting fir the right moment, literally playing dumb, or something else?

Thanks again
 

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I find your presentation unclear. Maybe that's part of the darkness you're in. Having both a manager and an agent seems redundant to me, but I don't know your business. If your manager is supposed to get you an agent, why hasn't this been done?
 

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you need work ..not an agent .. an agent makes sense when you are an established actor but not when you're on your way into getting a career together no matter what "agents" tell you. Shine through your work, your performances and don't try to shine through 'staff" like agents/managers .. I mean well with you here. I am a film actress since 1998 (41 movies since .. Europe, USA ..also 2 collaborations in Russia .. work in TV, cinema, indie). I had agents and managers once cos I thought I needed them but I got rid off all of them and manage myself ever since ... successfully.

Feel free to contact me if you need support/help/advice :)
 

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Well it really depends on where and in what field lmcevoy is trying to find acting work. If he or she is in New York or LA, for example--in those cities you must have an agent to get any significant work.

That said (I'm an actor too, but not in one of those cities): I once asked the yi :What is acting? and got 36.4.6-30. I thought that was fantastic, actually -- because acting ought to be about manifesting truth and clarity via disguise--seemingly contradictory, but that's how it works.

Anyway, so my first thought was (and this is assuming you're in NYC or LA) -- can you get in showcases, or off-off-Broadway stuff, or those plays in LA where the actors all pitch in to fund them? Then you can invite agents to come see your work, which of course makes for a much better chance they will take you on.

You have probably already tried or considered this, but that was my first thought.
 

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I guess I should qualify, in deference to nykkic who surely has more experience than I do -- I am talking about major studio film and television work, and work in Broadway and off-Broadway shows. I really think you need an agent for those. Otherwise, no.

Also of corse I should have mentioned student films, if film;TV is what you're going for--anything you can get on a reel to show and agent really helps, obviously.
 
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I have a manager currently and need an agent - the right fit for me now. I like what was said about waiting for someone to want me, but the challenge I face right now is needing an agent to get work (a manager covers other things such as getting said agent but doesn't send actors out to audition). I asked this question because I'm wondering if I need to take a certain route in my thinking that I haven't already undertaken, or if I need to work with a different manager to get involved in meeting more prospective agents, etc.

I truly appreciate your advice, but I think I'm in a different situation than what would be most applicable to your suggestions. SO - that being said I wonder if you have another take on the meaning of hexagram 36. Does it just suggest me waiting fir the right moment, literally playing dumb, or something else?

Thanks again

I like Knot's 36-30 for acting comment.

I also agree that the moth (you) needs to go to the light (the inner society of actors and those who work behind the scenes), rather than hope they will somehow come to you. Imo, you need to plug into the underground, behind the scenes network. That could mean attending events where they will be. Attend workshops, don't be afraid of the competition. I'm a big believer in showcasing, where you may not get paid as a professional, but the exposure and experience gained from it is what refines your craft further.

In the beginning especially, a good manager or agent should be one person. What they do with their inner contacts to get you reads and auditions shouldn't even concern you, ideally. You just show up on time and be on your game. That doesn't mean that the right personality couldn't do both, entertain/perform and manage their career, but artists often aren't interested in shlepping around, essentially making sales calls, selling themselves. They tend to be more 36 than that.

I was lucky. I had a great manager. That I didn't get the golden ring was through no fault of his. He knew the right people, and wasn't afraid to fly across the country to have coffee with someone who may further our respective careers. He didn't sit around and hope to hitch a ride if I got lucky. He did the undercover 36 work. All I had to do was perform during the slots he opened up for me. However, I was also doing my own 36 work, playing small locally known places, where I could refine and try out material, and make a modest income.

As Knot also pointed out, your chances are much greater if you're living where the action is, which in the US usually means NY or LA. If your manager calls you to tell you to be at such-and-such place at 9PM, you need to be there, in the middle of it. In that sense, 36 is your light within the mountain of that business.

Really, there's so many applications for 36 pertaining to an acting career. I would consider them all. Then find a way to bring that light to the surface of the earth so you experience 35.
 

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That said (I'm an actor too, but not in one of those cities): I once asked the yi :What is acting? and got 36.4.6-30. I thought that was fantastic, actually -- because acting ought to be about manifesting truth and clarity via disguise--seemingly contradictory, but that's how it works.

what a wonderful reading. it reminds me Aristotle's definition of tragedy

Definition of Tragedy: “Tragedy, then, is an imitation of an action that is serious, complete, and of a certain magnitude; in language embellished with each kind of artistic ornament, the several kinds being found in separate parts of the play; in the form of action, not of narrative; with incidents arousing pity and fear, wherewith to accomplish its katharsis of such emotions.

The ancient Greek word for an "actor," ὑποκριτής (hypokrites), means literally "one who interprets";[2] in this sense, an actor is one who interprets a dramatic character.[3] ( source)
very h36,imo. especially 36.4

there also a wonderful Greek song that starts with the phrase " actor means light..."
 

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