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cirka09

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Here's the situation. There is a girl I've been seeing that I would like to continue seeing, but things are up in the air right now. I asked "what is the situation between M and myself and received hex 43". I think this might be referring to my indecision about how to proceed, but I could be wrong. It could also be about her trying to decide between me and someone else.
The part I'm not getting is in asking How can I resolve the situation between M and myself? I had asked this same question last week and received the same answer.

Hex 64.2.5.6 > 45

I really, really can't comprehend what this is telling me... Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks :)
 

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Safely assuming that the texts (name, judgment, images, lines and transformed hexagram) refer to you and not to M, what would you read in it without drawing serious conclusions?
 

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Let's see... I would think it's saying to wait, have determination, and if that doesn't work, get drunk.
Only kidding.

I would say that it's telling me to wait. "To be careful in the differentiation of things" might be saying to look at what's going on so I can differentiate between the right and wrong actions to take. Line 5 says " the power of steadfastness has not been routed." So I could assume that it's telling me to remain steadfast. And that by remaining steadfast success will be won. The 6th line I see as a warning to not let success go to my head. The transformed hex 45 I'm going to take as simply meaning "massing" I don't know if that means we come together as a couple or as friends or acquaintances.

If I looked at each resulting hexagram from each moving line as a progression of steps leading to hex 45. It would look like 64.2 > 35.5 > 12.6 > 45

That would be saying something like put on the brakes, but develop within yourself the strength to proceed when the time comes.(64.2)
When the times for progress comes I should remain gentle and reserved and not regret my lack of energy for taking advantage of the situation or my influential position.(35.5)
The standstill does not last forever and it cannot be left to resolve its self otherwise it would just lead to more standstill. There would be a continuous effort to maintain peace. Effort must be made to end the standstill..(12.6) I don't know what the nature of that effort is though because I've never been in a situation like this.
By ending the standstill we come back to Gathering Together (45)

Of course 12.6 could also be speaking of an interest that doesn't last and fades away on its own. I think that's part of LiSe's interpretation. If it's speaking about me it could be my interest in her or it could be her interest in me or the other guy. I dunno...

I guess what I'm not getting is after all this is finished.. where does that leave her and I?
 

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Ooooops, I was actually referring to what you wrote on 43. But I somehow do not get your 64.etc description clear. Could you shortly summarize statement by statement, line by line, instead of dividing texts from eachother?
 
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Hi cirka09,
I just wanted to add my own 2 cents...you asked what the situation was between you and M and received 43 unchanging. IMO, I think is just saying that something needs to be said, and said truthfully, but do not do anything pushy or aggressive, speak to her from your heart and tell her how you feel.
I think the judgement of hex 43 stating a decision needs to be made and it must be announced truthfully really kind of resonates with your statement that things between you are up in the air.

I think your second reading could be read something this:

64.2 the time to act is not yet, you must wait but don't get anxious or give up
64.5 Staying true to yourself and her and keeping the faith will eventually, naturally bring about a better relationship between you too
64.6 keep your eye open for the right time and then celebrate by asking her out for a drink ;) but don't get carried away...
 

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I think something might need to be said, but 43 could also be telling me that I need to make a decision. So I tried a few questions in order to determine the best way to proceed. The first was

what can I expect if I tell her I'm alright with being friends? 47.1 > 58
I think this is saying I don't believe that and if I tell her that she won't believe it either. I wouls have to avoid dwelling on the issue but that this would lead to rejoicing? I don't know what that means...

The second was What can I expect if I tell her I'm not alright with just being friends. but I'm not going to chase her? 28.3 > 47
I'm thinking that would be too pushy? Would just exhaust me? But then why does exhaustion have success?

Last question: What if I do nothing at this time and wait patiently for the right moment to act?
37.1.3.6 > 8
I'm lost on this one...
 

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