[B]Suggestion for a layout for an I Ching diary[/B]

[svenrus]

I will appreciate criticism on it as I'm in doubt about it:

http://svenrus.dk/ichingdiary.pdf

 

[moss elk]

How about a free Open Office spreadsheet?

You can save your readings, customize the layout, edit at any time, and quickly search/find your saved readings by hex + line.

 

[ErnstB]

Positive Vibes to you.
It is an interesting project.

Keep on! My opinion is less qualified on the technical merit. I am researchin a project myself.

 

[svenrus]

How about a free Open Office spreadsheet?

You can save your readings, customize the layout, edit at any time, and quickly search/find your saved readings by hex + line.

I will take a look at that possibility. My focus was on a diary independent of computers and internet where one can duplicate the sheets to ringbinder or likewise using oldfashion pencil.

 

[Trojina]

Ah...I wondered if you were aware of Justin Farrell's I Ching journal software....produced by him and Hilary, info here

http://onlineclarity.co.uk/answers/2010/12/05/i-ching-journal-software/

Probably more up to date info elsewhere but I can't find it. Anyway that's what I use. Apparently that software is being further developed to include Hilary's glossary.

I wasn't sure if you wanted one to use right now or just wanted to develop your own.

My focus was on a diary independent of computers and internet where one can duplicate the sheets to ringbinder or likewise using oldfashion pencil.

I've tried but never found a way to do this that works well. Maybe you will. Oh just managed to download yours...yes you got further than I ever did !

Now I just scribble castings down in my diary and periodically transfer them to the journal. I was resistant about storing readings on computer but I do find it helps me see connections between readings as I can access readings I would otherwise have long forgotten.

 

[anemos]

I like page A- left side and page B feels ok , afters some 22 I particularly liked the space you have for write down more about the reasons asking the question. I would move the right side of page A to the appendix

 

[svenrus]

Trojan: I know that we may expect that in the future paper will disappear. I've had a couple of serious break-downs both on computers and internetconnexion so maybe that's the reason for my wish for an I Ching-log free of electronics. I'm aware of the site You mention, had looked at it some while ago but couldn't figure it out by then. Have to take a second closer look. Thank You.
By the way I have no intention to publish this diary layout or to copyright it for the purpose of distribution; it has been like a hobby to me and nothing more.

 

[svenrus]

anemos: I have thought that this right side of page A could be much more comprehensive in a separate section in the appendeice, but my mainintention was to have those keywords to the trigrams as close to the attained hexagram as possible; personally a thing about books I hate is constantly having to change over to the end of the book to read the annotations, in non-fiction I mean.

 

[hilary]

Thanks for the plug, Trojina! The situation with the software: you can pick up the current version, Justin's dedicated Yijing journal software, from here:
https://sites.google.com/site/ichingsoftware/home

When the new software's complete, you'll be able to import your readings from the old version. The new software is for general journal entries, dreams and synchronicities as well as Yijing readings, so you can explore the links between them all. (And discover connections you might not otherwise have seen.)

Back on topic... I like your pdf, and I understand wanting to write and keep readings on paper. My first few 100 readings were kept in hardback A4 notebooks, and a ring-binder would have been a much better idea. I think one advantage of your system is that it's going to compel you to really think about how readings are connected and what you want to keep track of as you go along. (22.1?)

I think the basics of a successful paper system are lots of space to write in (the ringbinder solves that nicely), numbered pages, a contents list by date and an index by hexagram. RL Wing's 'I Ching Workbook' included space to make notes of related readings alongside the hexagrams - so next time you cast that hexagram and line you're going to see the reference to the reading. That always struck me as very well thought-out, exactly what you need. (At least until you run out of space.)

I have a friend who only likes keeping a journal on paper, so that's what she does - but she also keeps a quick note of the question and hexagrams on the computer, along with the page number. That way she gets the best of both worlds.

By the way, have you seen Adele Aldridge's I Ching Record Book? Available nowadays from Amazon. Has anyone got it?

 

[svenrus]

This layout of an I Ching-log will never reach the efficiency of an electronic one, I'm aware. And the future is to be found in the electronic; one fingertouch and You got the past readings concerning those speciel hexagrams/situations, You got the references, the meaning of the trigrams and so on.
And I must confess that I would have liked to have further references from the ten wings on that "left side" of the page (mainpage A) with the reading; But if I put all off that stuff back in the appendix my first intention would have been spoiled, namely to have these clues right on, next to the readings.
I'm somehow aware of, that those skilled I Ching practising people who have done the readings for centuries handed down in families, in China, Korea, Japan and other places where it originated, just know the meaning of the lines, the trigrams... by intuition so to speak. And that I just aint in possession of such an expertice.
I have to look up the meaning of the parts of the hexagrams each time I have made a consultation. Grateful for people like Alfred Huang, Richard Wilhelm... and many more whom to lean on when trying to grasp the meaning of it all.
Hilary: thank You for the link to Adele Aldridge's I Ching recordbook ! I haven't been aware before.

 

[svenrus]

Just downloaded Justin Farrell's I Ching Journalprogram in the trial version. Haven't got into depth yet but immediately spotted the users possibility to add texts/translations: a high level mark from here. If those companies producing electronic translator-handheld devices had the same possibility build in... But no. They could learn from Justin Farrell & Hilary !

 

[Annamaria]

Thank you, svenrus for sharing your suggestion of an pdf that is the layout for i ching diary i have problems with internet connection that is why i cannot open the pdf now but i Will definetely do it later and give you My opinion, but without seeing it i am sure it is beautiful!
Annamaria

 

[svenrus]

have problems with internet connection
Annamaria

Thanks but it's a sketch for which I'm searching for failures and when eventually corrected I'll lay it out in open space for free use to those who appreciate handwritten journals eventually if internetconnections fails... And as I've cited some other authors I'll release it in friendly nonprofit areas without my name signed on this I Ching log, as I call it. Hopefully a tool for somebody to use.

 

[svenrus]

.... I'll try to attach screenshots of the mainpages of the pdf here:







Sorry that I could'nt make the quality of the screenshots better here.

 

[Annamaria]

Thnxs for the screenshots! They are alittle difficult to read Though , My internet connection is very slow because you see my children have used most of mb for this month!! The 2nd of june i would be able to download the pdf. My first impression is that it looks very professional , quite advanced so to speak for abeginner like me, interesting with heaven above and earth below and the man between the two trigrams, can one understand it as it is ahuman being that connects what is above with what is below, that is sun and moon or yang and yin, light and darkness and so on?

 

[svenrus]

The quality on the pdf is much better, but I'm in doubt about the layout, thats the reason for this specific thread. As I can't attach files into this thread, pdf-files I mean, I have this link to this homepage were it's stored... for the moment.

 

[Annamaria]

Keep it simple and transparent - that is Where the true beauty lies.

 

[Annamaria]

Today i was able to look at the pdf, and i was amazed at finding out How much knowledge that you have and that gives essense to this layout, i think that many beginners like me would like to have a copy of this, so i am sure people interested in learning more about i ching would certainly appreciate to get a free copy to print it out

And a curious thing for me was that the other day i answered you and Said it was beautiful i did get hex 22

Please let me know when and Where it Will be published!

Thank you!

 

[svenrus]

Today i was able to look at the pdf, and i was amazed at finding out How much knowledge that you have and that gives essense to this layout, i think that many beginners like me would like to have a copy of this, so i am sure people interested in learning more about i ching would certainly appreciate to get a free copy to print it out

And a curious thing for me was that the other day i answered you and Said it was beautiful i did get hex 22

Please let me know when and Where it Will be published!

Thank you!

If You want to use the layout as it is feel free to take it: http://svenrus.dk/ichinglog.pdf

I'm still working at it as I feel something is missing or wrong. That's the reason why I opened this thread.

 

[Annamaria]

I guess it is My Achille's heel not being able to see the point or what is Missing, so i feel i have to pass on this and admit i cannot help you, i am sure you can find someone who is better at this.

 

[ErnstB]

it is the synthesis and reduction process that makes a good work great.

Create with broad strokes. Detail with a fine point mind.

 

[svenrus]

https://www.yumpu.com/en/embed/view/bADy2GlexYhotjTi


& for download to print: http://svenrus.dk/ichingdiary.pdf

 

[Intuitive]

https://www.yumpu.com/en/embed/view/bADy2GlexYhotjTi


& for download to print: http://svenrus.dk/ichingdiary.pdf

 

[surnevs]

"Secret Counsellor" might have been a better title...

 

[surnevs]

Another link: https://www.scribd.com/document/322199864/I-Ching-Diary-Sheets-to-Print *

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