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Being rich (financially) Hex 63.3.6 to 42

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Hello all!

Yesterday I asked the i-ching "what shall I do to become economically rich?"
Let me clarify that I mean rich, rich. Money. Lots of.
I know it may seem a silly question but I there's a way to become rich for me, I would like to know it.

I got hex 63.3.6. To 42
63: COMPLETION. Talks about the beginning of a new cycle. I know that I'm entering in a new cycle because I'm pending to receive a benefit from an accident I suffered a few months ago. It is not big money but I'm trying to learn/see how to best invest it when I receive it to make a good benefit out of it.
I also understand that I should start by small things, accomplish little by little. The new cycle demands as much willpower as the last.

63.3: I like the comparison with The emperor Kao Tsung:bows: .... 'chastised the barbarian country and conquered it in three years. The inferior man should no longer be employed.'
"The attainment of a highly ambitious goal is possible. It will take a long time and will leave you spent. If it is worthwhile to you, success is indicated. However, be cautioned to employ only the most qualified persons in your endeavour" (mr. Henry ford knew that and he'd only employed the brightest minds for his car factory)...-- 63.3 leads to hex 3, sprouting: 'Difficulty indicates progress and success through firm correctness. Action should not be undertaken lightly, and it is wise to seek help."

63.6: "Wing: You have initiated significant action.. Do not assume that things will follow their course while you simply watch and wait. This type of attitude is both vain and perilous. You have created responsibilities for yourself. Shirking them will invite grave danger." --- You have passed the point of no return in the current cycle of growth -- regression now portends disaster.
I don't know if any of you ever read Napoleon Hill... But in his book "think and grow rich" he says exactly that: To Accomplish Anything Great You Must First Burn Bridges.
63.6 leads to 37, which I don't quite understand. The family, the clan: "The thirty-seventh hexagram teaches us that the way to manage the emotions is no different than the proper management of aFamily."

42: GAIN
Legge: Increase denotes advantage in every movement which shall be undertaken -- it will be advantageous even to cross the great stream. -- When the superior man perceives good, he moves toward it; when he perceives his faults, he eliminates them"
... Take advantage of your opportunities"

Well, I understand that I will have to work hard and that I will have to hire the best employees (I don't even own a company) or the best advisor (maybe financial advisors). It seems that it will take far more risks than being just an employee waiting for its monthly salary and that I will have to burn bridges as to have the only choice of moving forward. Also, to learn from every mistake, maybe not to repeat a bad investment and to seize every opportunity.

Is my interpretation ok?
 
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63.3 -> 3
You will have to move to totally another direction in life, which will throw off the balance of security you have achieved (change jobs etc), as taking risks is a first step and also a must to be a successful entrepreneur
After the risks have been taken, it will be difficult to proceed (the hexagram becomes 3 - difficulty at the beginning)

3.6 > 42
Only when you can overcome the hardship you will be able to "gain" wealth. 3.6 is an extremely difficult situation (crying non-stop with bloody tears, how long can you last?). This is usually about despair and only the most tenacious individuals can make this line change to attain hexagram 42, as the hardship is overcome and you will attain success.
 

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Looking at your question from a broad perspective I see 63.3.6 - 42 as more like restatement of your question than a specific plan:

Question: How do I become rich?
Answer: (63) Reaching the Goal of... (42) Wealth.

The 3 and 6 lines are not encouraging or instructive IMHO, more like just a comment that the road to riches is exhausting and demands total focus and commitment.

To me it reads like the I Ching is saying if only money is your goal then it's a not a very rewarding one - that if you make it your goal you may indeed die rich but it will require subjugating every other impulse, desire to this purpose and in the end (63.6) you may wonder if it was worth it to give up your whole life to this pursuit.

Or maybe it doesn't have to be so negative. Maybe you are just being advised that to become wealthy you really have to put your mind to it - that people don't become rich and stay rich because they got one lucky stock tip. People who are wealthy have a deep understanding of the money game just as successful gardeners don't just have a "green thumb", they have studied and acquired a clear understanding of plants. So to become fabulously rich you are being advised to become intently focused on this path.

As this reading seems to be only giving you an overall picture perhaps you should ask a second question such as "How should I begin?"

Incidentally, I have a daughter-in-law who is good in sales. I just assumed it was because she is a very nice person, enthusiastic and has a good product. One day I noticed that she has a bookcase full of well read books and tapes on how to be successful in selling. So I realized that there was more than instinct involved here. Likewise you might benefit from reading everything you can get your hands on about the science of getting rich. Youtube has a lot of good ideas too, btw.
 
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Bourbonist! You won't like my answer, but I am 100% sure about it.
Hex 42, the financial increase you will enjoy in your lifetime is already arranged!
Hex 63, "having crossed a river" refers to A DESTINY HAVING BEEN SEALED, when our souls cross the River of Lethe/Forgetfulness just before we incarnate.
Destiny does exist, it's a huge concept, I can't elaborate about here, and the I Ching confirms it!
Line 3: "the villain should not be employed, he took him 3 years to conquer it" :
Your desire is the villain and you will have to fight hard to overcome it...
Line 6: "the subject is in a state of soaking its head, which is of sternness and cruelty":
You are completely plunged into a dangerous crisis.
Like the fox, symbol of craving for money, you will lose everything at the end.
I Ching strongly advises you to get rid of desiring material riches! It the road to hell...
 

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A different interpretation:

I once had the opportunity to house sit a very wealthy person's home. One of the things that struck me about their place was how clean and clutter free it was. All the plates and silverware matched. The sheets and towels were all co-ordinated and nothing was worn or frayed. Although they had the money to buy what ever they wanted, I think an ordinary person could create the same effect in their own home simply by tossing out the mismatched old broken stuff and vowing to get by with one nice tea-cup rather than to surround themselves with junk.

So I see 42. Increase as advising you that just as the superior man increases that which is good and decreases that which is bad, you too must have the courage to release and let go of any clutter that is anchoring you in old poverty consciousness.

I think 63.6 is saying you need a more compelling goal than simply making money, least you end up alone in some bar just retelling the old stories of how you made your first million - and how life became pretty boring after that.
 

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Hmm..
I wonder if 63 - 42 could mean that you find things that appear to be worn out and discarded - their purpose having been Completed - and you Increase their value? Ever thought of finding things at garage sales and marketing them on ebay?
 

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I see it as
63.3 you will have to work hard and for a considerable period of time
63.6 it will completely consume you, you'll have to devote all your time to it.

Just a silly idea:
Go to some 3rd world country and find an underwater treasure.
 

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I dont think there's anything bad pursuing material riches, as we all have different view points in life and we have different things to pursue. The world of entrepreneurs has many individuals, some just want to make a living, some want to get somewhere in the world of business and be the top, some aim to be a millionaire, some aim to be a billionaire etc. I see this kind of pursue as just a goal in life, similar to following ambitions in sports, academics or politics. This is different from greed, by the way. Greed is wanting something without working for it. But as long as you work hard, putting your heart into it and enjoy whatever you do, you will find success, whether it's business or just a hobby.
 

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"Greed is wanting something without working for it."
Yeah, like asking people to interpret your I Ching questions and then never coming back to say thank you.
 

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As this reading seems to be only giving you an overall picture perhaps you should ask a second question such as "How should I begin?"

Incidentally, I have a daughter-in-law who is good in sales. I just assumed it was because she is a very nice person, enthusiastic and has a good product. One day I noticed that she has a bookcase full of well read books and tapes on how to be successful in selling. So I realized that there was more than instinct involved here. Likewise you might benefit from reading everything you can get your hands on about the science of getting rich. Youtube has a lot of good ideas too, btw.

Thank you Rosada for your answer. I will certainly ask that question.
Regarding your daughter, I also have books about money (Kiyosaki, Trump, etc.) and they have help me not to become rich (because I'm not) but to better manage my finances as to become financially independent.
Maybe she already knows this, but Kiyosaki strongly defends selling as the first step towards anything, not for the selling itself but for all the skills you learn in the process: how to speak, how to ask good question, persuasion, etc.

Thanks again for your help!
 

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63.3 -> 3
You will have to move to totally another direction in life, which will throw off the balance of security you have achieved (change jobs etc), as taking risks is a first step and also a must to be a successful entrepreneur
After the risks have been taken, it will be difficult to proceed (the hexagram becomes 3 - difficulty at the beginning)

3.6 > 42
Only when you can overcome the hardship you will be able to "gain" wealth. 3.6 is an extremely difficult situation (crying non-stop with bloody tears, how long can you last?). This is usually about despair and only the most tenacious individuals can make this line change to attain hexagram 42, as the hardship is overcome and you will attain success.

Wow, this sounds so hard!..
Thank you Altair for your great insight!
 

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Bourbonist! You won't like my answer, but I am 100% sure about it.
Hex 42, the financial increase you will enjoy in your lifetime is already arranged!
Hex 63, "having crossed a river" refers to A DESTINY HAVING BEEN SEALED, when our souls cross the River of Lethe/Forgetfulness just before we incarnate.
Destiny does exist, it's a huge concept, I can't elaborate about here, and the I Ching confirms it!
Line 3: "the villain should not be employed, he took him 3 years to conquer it" :
Your desire is the villain and you will have to fight hard to overcome it...
Line 6: "the subject is in a state of soaking its head, which is of sternness and cruelty":
You are completely plunged into a dangerous crisis.
Like the fox, symbol of craving for money, you will lose everything at the end.
I Ching strongly advises you to get rid of desiring material riches! It the road to hell...

Wow! But I don't want the money just for the greed of having money. Im shameful to say thins but... I wanna make it to the olympics... That's my biggest dream... I need the money to "keep on keeping on".
In fact, as I believe that you should give life something in return, I was dreaming to open an equestrian centre for those skilled riders with not enough money, as me, with a service of equine assisted therapy.

In any case, your reading does make sense for the three situations. Maybe the desire for wealth is a bad path. Maybe if I put all my money on my dreams they might not come true. Maybe the equestrian centre will fail.

Thank you so much for your answer and for telling me your real thoughts about it, not always the I Ching shows us "nice" answers.

Love,

B
 

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A different interpretation:

I once had the opportunity to house sit a very wealthy person's home. One of the things that struck me about their place was how clean and clutter free it was. All the plates and silverware matched. The sheets and towels were all co-ordinated and nothing was worn or frayed. Although they had the money to buy what ever they wanted, I think an ordinary person could create the same effect in their own home simply by tossing out the mismatched old broken stuff and vowing to get by with one nice tea-cup rather than to surround themselves with junk.

So I see 42. Increase as advising you that just as the superior man increases that which is good and decreases that which is bad, you too must have the courage to release and let go of any clutter that is anchoring you in old poverty consciousness.

I think 63.6 is saying you need a more compelling goal than simply making money, least you end up alone in some bar just retelling the old stories of how you made your first million - and how life became pretty boring after that.

You made me laugh with the bar thing!!
Yes, i do have the dream to go to the olympics one day, I need money for that. I'm a skilled rider but this sport demands lots of money to "make it". The money is a way to get there.
I do have a nice idea of how to "return" the money. I was telling windrell that " in return" I would like to open an equestrian centre for skilled riders with no money (with scholarships, etc) and a service of equine therapy.

Regarding your interpretation of hexagram 42, that's a nice approach! Quantity vs quality. I can totally do that!

Thanks Rosada, again!
 

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Hmm..
I wonder if 63 - 42 could mean that you find things that appear to be worn out and discarded - their purpose having been Completed - and you Increase their value? Ever thought of finding things at garage sales and marketing them on ebay?

Or buying an old house, put it nice "letting go any clutter" as you said, and re-selling/rent it....
 

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I see it as
63.3 you will have to work hard and for a considerable period of time
63.6 it will completely consume you, you'll have to devote all your time to it.

Just a silly idea:
Go to some 3rd world country and find an underwater treasure.

I already live in a 3rd world country hehehe maybe your idea is not silly hehehe.
The devoting time is a must, I think, for anyone: only in the case you have inherited the money you have to work your a** off if you want something.

Thanks for your help!
 

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"Greed is wanting something without working for it."
Yeah, like asking people to interpret your I Ching questions and then never coming back to say thank you.

Is this for me? I'm sorry! We have been with no electricity for the last 3 days. Is quite typical here in the summer, there are electricity "cuts" here (I don't know how to say it, the electricity company/government -one can never know- shuts the electricity of a determined zone in the city... Then they shut another one... As if there weren't enough electricity for all of us all the time -there isn't-).
So I'm very sorry if I made you upset!

Love

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Wow! But I don't want the money just for the greed of having money. Im shameful to say thins but... I wanna make it to the olympics... That's my biggest dream... I need the money to "keep on keeping on".
In fact, as I believe that you should give life something in return, I was dreaming to open an equestrian centre for those skilled riders with not enough money, as me, with a service of equine assisted therapy.

In any case, your reading does make sense for the three situations. Maybe the desire for wealth is a bad path. Maybe if I put all my money on my dreams they might not come true. Maybe the equestrian centre will fail.

Thank you so much for your answer and for telling me your real thoughts about it, not always the I Ching shows us "nice" answers.

Love,

B
Dear Bourbonist, I suggest to ask the I Ching the following questions, IF YOU FEEL LIKE ASKING THEM:
Is my dream of having an equestrian center destined to become reality?
Will I make it to the Olympics?
What is the highest level that I will reach as a rider?
Or something like that..
THE QUESTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN DIVINATION!
I Ching will answer you with perfect clarity and you will be free of all the stress...
Thank you for your boldness in sharing your inner truth....����
 

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Dear Bourbonist, I suggest to ask the I Ching the following questions, IF YOU FEEL LIKE ASKING THEM:
Is my dream of having an equestrian center destined to become reality?
Will I make it to the Olympics?
What is the highest level that I will reach as a rider?
Or something like that..
THE QUESTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN DIVINATION!
I Ching will answer you with perfect clarity and you will be free of all the stress...
Thank you for your boldness in sharing your inner truth....����

Thank you windrell!! This is indeed great advise. The thing is I'm not ready yet to ask that question, I'm not ready enough to deal with a negative answer. But I promise, whenever I feel "strong enough" I will ask that question and let you know the result.

Thanks again for your sincere answer :)
 

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Other ways to phrase possible questions:

Why is my dream destined to become a reality?
What should I be doing now to make it to the Olympics?
Describe the goal I should aim for as a rider.

Also, about your question concerning amassing wealth:
As your true goal is to have an equestrian center I think you should ask for straight guidance on that. IOW, you are assuming that building your center will take money so you ask about amassing wealth but learning how to amass wealth may not be the best route to your goal. I mean, learning to be a stock trader or real estate mogul could take years whereas perhaps focusing on the horses could connect you with someone, a partner who needs you to build them a center while they play with Wall Street. Cut out the middle man! Focus on your goal and let the Universe guide you to it's manifestation!
 

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