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"Hex 58.2.4.5 leads to Hex 24"
Hex 58.2 says not to get involved, don't waste your money.
Hex 58.4 again, keep away.
Hex 58.5 a dangerous situation, stay away or you will be exploited.
Hex 24 rejecting this dubious business venture leads to a turning point and you will feel much happier that you did not accept the offer, so find something else.
Hex 58.2 says not to get involved, don't waste your money.
Hex 58.4 again, keep away.
Hex 58.5 a dangerous situation, stay away or you will be exploited.
Hex 24 rejecting this dubious business venture leads to a turning point and you will feel much happier that you did not accept the offer, so find something else.
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tanjhj said:
Yes i agree its a strange reading, for some reason I get quite a light feel from it, hmm well it is 58. Like some others here when there are many moving lines I prefer to read the primary and relating hexagrams as a kind of sentence. For me this has been reliable.
So could be joy returning - just a thought.
I'd say watch the Marketing, and make sure you're targeting the right audience. Either that, or if the business is communication-related, pay special attention to refining the comunication-related product or business process and make sure its hitting its mark in the business world. 58, exchange, is easy to see in relation to a business. This is either about marketing or the inner dynamics of whatever it is your trying to sell.
58.2 (17), This is communication refinement, and targeting the right audience
17.4 (3), I think this is about finding your place in the market and business world
3.5 (24), Watch your approach. Don't waste energy on the wrong processes or market demographics,
Give the "communication" aspects some time to penetrate the market before the busienss takes off (58>24). I'd say if you concentrate on getting your approach right, you can expect the business to find the right conditions to begin something new. There aren't immediate payoffs, though. It almost reminds me of a direct-selling type of enterprise.
58.2 (17), This is communication refinement, and targeting the right audience
17.4 (3), I think this is about finding your place in the market and business world
3.5 (24), Watch your approach. Don't waste energy on the wrong processes or market demographics,
Give the "communication" aspects some time to penetrate the market before the busienss takes off (58>24). I'd say if you concentrate on getting your approach right, you can expect the business to find the right conditions to begin something new. There aren't immediate payoffs, though. It almost reminds me of a direct-selling type of enterprise.
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"still confused, can someone please explanation?
If you read my post then you will see that I see something wrong with this business venture and that it would be in your best interest to stay away from it, otherwise you will end up a loser. You are involved with the wrong people here who will slowly but surely take your money. If you take this advise then you can return to a happier and relaxed frame of mind, so listen.
If you read my post then you will see that I see something wrong with this business venture and that it would be in your best interest to stay away from it, otherwise you will end up a loser. You are involved with the wrong people here who will slowly but surely take your money. If you take this advise then you can return to a happier and relaxed frame of mind, so listen.
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Could you say more about what kind of business venture this is?
Is this a solo venture - just you and your customers - or are you asking about getting involved with other people, maybe joining a company?
I think this affects the interpretation. 58 is talking about entering into trade and exchange. If the trade and exchange here is just you and the people you serve, then as Autumn says you can read the signs and hopefully avoid the dangers. But if it's about you getting into a contract with other people, or a 'business opportunity' company, then the dangers would be harder to avoid.
Is this a solo venture - just you and your customers - or are you asking about getting involved with other people, maybe joining a company?
I think this affects the interpretation. 58 is talking about entering into trade and exchange. If the trade and exchange here is just you and the people you serve, then as Autumn says you can read the signs and hopefully avoid the dangers. But if it's about you getting into a contract with other people, or a 'business opportunity' company, then the dangers would be harder to avoid.
Ok i am approach by another fren, Derek to join his MLM company (not the same as the abv) and i ask Iching for advice and i got
Hex 29
leads to HEx 29
hmmm.. it seems no point for me to join MLM co? or i need to learn and overcome the danger?
hex 29 reading
THE JUDGMENT
The Abysmal repeated.
If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.
Through repetition of danger we grow accustomed to it. Water sets the example for the right conduct under such circumstances. It flows on and on, and merely fills up all the places through which it flows; it does not shrink from any dangerous spot nor from any plunge, and nothing can make it lose its own essential nature. It remains true to itself under all conditions. Thus likewise, if one is sincere when confronted with difficulties, the heart can penetrate the meaning of the situation. And once we have gained inner mastery of a problem, it will come about naturally that the action we take will succeed. In danger all that counts is really carrying out all that has to be done- -thoroughness--and going forward, in order not to perish through tarrying in the danger.
Properly used, danger can have an important meaning as a protective measure. Thus heaven has its perilous height protecting it against every attempt at invasion, and earth has its mountains and bodies of water, separating countries by their dangers. Thus also rulers make use of danger to protect themselves against attacks from without and against turmoil within.
THE IMAGE
Water flows on uninterruptedly and reaches its foal:
The image of the Abysmal repeated.
Thus the superior man walks in lasting virtue
And carries on the business of teaching.
Water reaches its goal by flowing continually. It fills up every depression before it flows on. The superior man follows its example; he is concerned that goodness should be an established attribute of character rather than an accidental and isolated occurrence. So likewise in teaching others everything depends on consistency, for it is only through repetition that the pupil makes the material his own.
Hex 29
leads to HEx 29
hmmm.. it seems no point for me to join MLM co? or i need to learn and overcome the danger?
hex 29 reading
THE JUDGMENT
The Abysmal repeated.
If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.
Through repetition of danger we grow accustomed to it. Water sets the example for the right conduct under such circumstances. It flows on and on, and merely fills up all the places through which it flows; it does not shrink from any dangerous spot nor from any plunge, and nothing can make it lose its own essential nature. It remains true to itself under all conditions. Thus likewise, if one is sincere when confronted with difficulties, the heart can penetrate the meaning of the situation. And once we have gained inner mastery of a problem, it will come about naturally that the action we take will succeed. In danger all that counts is really carrying out all that has to be done- -thoroughness--and going forward, in order not to perish through tarrying in the danger.
Properly used, danger can have an important meaning as a protective measure. Thus heaven has its perilous height protecting it against every attempt at invasion, and earth has its mountains and bodies of water, separating countries by their dangers. Thus also rulers make use of danger to protect themselves against attacks from without and against turmoil within.
THE IMAGE
Water flows on uninterruptedly and reaches its foal:
The image of the Abysmal repeated.
Thus the superior man walks in lasting virtue
And carries on the business of teaching.
Water reaches its goal by flowing continually. It fills up every depression before it flows on. The superior man follows its example; he is concerned that goodness should be an established attribute of character rather than an accidental and isolated occurrence. So likewise in teaching others everything depends on consistency, for it is only through repetition that the pupil makes the material his own.
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When you say this latest approach is 'not the same as the above'... I think Yi disagrees. My instinct is that 29 unchanging in this case says 'you're heading towards another chasm, pretty much like the last one.' Is your heart really in this? (29 asks.) Is this really a way for you to open up and give the best of yourself?
Looking again at the first reading - 58.2.4.5 to 24 - I would suggest following the advice in the lines step by step to reach your own conclusion. It starts with honesty in communication (with yourself, too - you have to love this, you can't force it). It moves on to negotiating terms at line 4 - carefully, thoughtfully, not allowing your anxieties to get the better of you. And at line 5, there is a strong warning to be careful whom you trust and how much control you give away.
Overall I'd be inclined to stay clear. At least, unless you are so delighted with the product/ service you'd be selling that you'd still be eager to tell all your friends and family about it if you knew you wouldn't make a cent.
Looking again at the first reading - 58.2.4.5 to 24 - I would suggest following the advice in the lines step by step to reach your own conclusion. It starts with honesty in communication (with yourself, too - you have to love this, you can't force it). It moves on to negotiating terms at line 4 - carefully, thoughtfully, not allowing your anxieties to get the better of you. And at line 5, there is a strong warning to be careful whom you trust and how much control you give away.
Overall I'd be inclined to stay clear. At least, unless you are so delighted with the product/ service you'd be selling that you'd still be eager to tell all your friends and family about it if you knew you wouldn't make a cent.
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"Ok i was approached by another friend, Derek to join his MLM company and i ask I ching for advice and i got Hex 29"
You would face a difficult and dangerous situation, do you want to work in a battlefield? This danger can be easily avoided by not accepting your friends offer.
You would face a difficult and dangerous situation, do you want to work in a battlefield? This danger can be easily avoided by not accepting your friends offer.