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Exhausting! Sounds like it takes 30 years for all this to happen. Any way it can be made to go a bit faster?
Enough musings for now. Thoughts?
Love is a temporary madness. It erupts like an earthquake and then subsides. And when it subsides you have to make a decision. You have to work out whether your roots have become so entwined together that it is inconceivable that you should ever part. Because this is what love is. Love is not breathlessness, it is not excitement, it is not the promulgation of promises of eternal passion. That is just being in love which any of us can convince ourselves we are. Love itself is what is left over when being in love has burned away, and this is both an art and a fortunate accident. Your mother and I had it, we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two.
-- Captain Corelli's Mandolin
LiSe[/URL] explains the components: the flowing water, the wheel, and the channel cut for the water to flow through.
About the first 50 times I received 53 I was thinking more or less exactly that, and asking questions that boiled down to, 'Everything's stuck! How can I move this along already?'Exhausting! Sounds like it takes 30 years for all this to happen. Any way it can be made to go a bit faster?
The roots of the tree or the wings of the geese is what needed to blossom , to fly . The substance of grow, development , an enduring one.
I really like that . .
It doesn't have to be about love though, . .
But in the most general terms, marriage means joining, becoming part of something larger than you are, to some extent merging your identity into it, so that your growth and its growth coincide. And ongoing growth and movement is a core theme for Hexagram 53: the geese are still in flight in the sixth line, and the commentary on the Oracle says, ‘Keeping still and penetrating: this makes the movement inexhaustible.’
Of course. I see this quote describing a "good Marriage" iow, how to walk on an ordeal
A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself. ~Joseph Campbell
I'm reading this and wondering what is the difference of this to a positive spin of 54? accepting that we are the little wife in the face of a larger scheme?
Thus the superior man abides in dignity and virtue,
In order to improve the mores.
But the Hero, actually brings a change.
why would hex 54 be short-term/ephemeral , Maria? the enduring of 53 I thought of as the slow sure progress of advancement ( interms of "courtship", preparing, finding the place to rest)
54..did not see it as short-term, ephemeral, but more like the nitty gritty of the situation. the time when you come to terms with new situation. How does one convert from maidenhood? by becoming the wife. entails loss, too, of innocence, of freedom,the pleasures of girlhood. This is a huge change!( I have heard many women say that they unexplainedly cried through their whole honeymoon.) This could also be a Hero's journey. culminating in line 5, where the bride is more modestly dressed than the bridesmaids. Her upper hand comes when she accepts her transformation, to womanhood, not just wifehood. Karcher calls this line a great omen of future happiness.
i 'ld see many hexs at Hero's Journey, as Campbell outlines it, and 54 is one of them, no doubt and i'm not sure if 53 is the most representative one. A very very new connection for me.
I can see how this would require the soul of a hero, or a junzi.
Hadn't ever associated 54 with a Hero's Journey, but I did have to time to mull it over. There's a point you made, which grabbed me: there is the temporal in 54, but there's also the eternal. It is not one or the other, it is both. I can see how this would require the soul of a hero, or a junzi.
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53 seems to share this same dualism of temporal and eternal. Not only is it a long flight, it's possibly an eternal one. The flock in flight forms a wave (like surfing the dao).
It breaks down in 54, and it's up to the individual to manage - not in the nice collective lift of a flock in flight, but in the lowlands, on your own two feet, where you, as an individual, have to do what you have to do, even if it's just to get by for awhile. A Campbellesque Hero would have to do that.
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The mythical irony is, once the goal is reached, the Hero turns right around, and leaves the eternal, to exist in the temporal, yet not losing sight of the eternal; bringing back eternal light; carried on angels' wings, or were they geese? Examine the feather which falls from heaven. Perhaps you can use in a dream catcher.
漸 ... The goose rides upon the water like a chariot on the land. The object on the right in lise's primitive looks like a harpoon arrow (arrow with string attached) that the Chinese used in hunting birds. So the character suggests the cautious approach used in stalking birds.
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The roots of the tree or the wings of the geese is what needed to blossom , to fly . The substance of grow, development , an enduring one.
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Just saw that the 53-54 pair , in term of time are Longlasting/enduring (53) and shortlasting/ephemeral (54). Ummm, need to think more about it.
Hi, Dora:I wasn't disagreeing, just adding, I guess all growth is an ordeal of sorts . .
(to all Campbell readers) I'm intrigued by Campbell's words
I'm reading this and wondering what is the difference of this to a positive spin of 54? accepting that we are the little wife in the face of a larger scheme?
Hi, Barbara:why would hex 54 be short-term/ephemeral , Maria? the enduring of 53 I thought of as the slow sure progress of advancement ( interms of "courtship", preparing, finding the place to rest)
54..did not see it as short-term, ephemeral, but more like the nitty gritty of the situation. the time when you come to terms with new situation. How does one convert from maidenhood? by becoming the wife. entails loss, too, of innocence, of freedom,the pleasures of girlhood. This is a huge change!( I have heard many women say that they unexplainedly cried through their whole honeymoon.) This could also be a Hero's journey. culminating in line 5, where the bride is more modestly dressed than the bridesmaids. Her upper hand comes when she accepts her transformation, to womanhood, not just wifehood. Karcher calls this line a great omen of future happiness.
Hi, Dora:
DON´T ACCEPT IT! Better a BIG LOVER than a LITTLE WIFE, although for chinese both are pretty the same.
My memory is weak, does H.54 say anything about little wives? Isn´t it about Princesses like you and villains like we?
Yours,
Charly
Maybe for you, but I doubt for me. To see you is a joy.hi Charly (good to see you )
... nothing wrong with being a little wife at times in our life ...
The bride is already pregnant.Sleeve ... has, as still in China and Japan, been used as a pocket, whence has come the phrase to have up one's sleeve, to have something concealed ready to produce ...
Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1911
‘Gradual advance. The woman marries.
Good fortune.
Constancy bears fruit.’
Hexagrams 53 and 54, Gradual Advance and the Marrying Maiden, are what Stephen Karcher calls ‘The Great Marriages’. So what does ‘marriage’ mean?
To a large extent, that depends on your perspective: in old China, marriage for the man means opening his home to a newcomer and all the change she will bring, while marriage for the woman (as in this hexagram pair) means coming home into a new place. Those are two quite different experiences that work quite differently as images in readings. But in the most general terms, marriage means joining, becoming part of something larger than you are, to some extent merging your identity into it, so that your growth and its growth coincide. And ongoing growth and movement is a core theme for Hexagram 53: the geese are still in flight in the sixth line, and the commentary on the Oracle says, ‘Keeping still and penetrating: this makes the movement inexhaustible.’
You can be compelled to change by being transplanted, like the marrying maiden, into something you’re not ready for and must grow into. Or you can evolve as part of a situation that evolves with you -*though naturally this has to happen at the pace of the slowest partner or element in the union:
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