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Dear All,

About forty days ago I posted a question about a then-new relationship (the question is here: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=15661). Well, unfortunately him and I are now broken up and I was the one to instigate the breakup, a decision I am now regretting, because of the abrupt and angry way in which I did it and also because it seemed like genuine emotions were beginning to develop in this relationship (certainly on my part, and likely on his part as well). I miss him (the breakup happened over a week ago) and since then, my attempts to ask the Yi have been somewhat confused, and so I've been getting back unclear answers (answers I could not understand, anyway).

But today I told the Yi that I felt ready to hear the truth, and went on to ask "Are we going to be together again with []?". The answer I got was 61.3.6>5. Could anyone please interpret this for me, in an objective way?

It seems to me like the Yi is talking directly to me (telling me off, in a way, like a teacher to a student) but keeping silent where the actual question is concerned.
 
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Dear All,

But today I told the Yi that I felt ready to hear the truth, and went on to ask "Are we going to be together again with []?". The answer I got was 61.3.6>5. Could anyone please interpret this for me, in an objective way?

I've only just started having a go at interpreting for others, but I'm going to have a go at this one. Hex 5 is saying you are currently in a state of waiting - waiting for the relationship to start again, maybe?

61 is inner truth according to Wilhelm, but here you got line 3:

Six in the third place means:
He finds a comrade.
Now he beats the drum, now he stops.
Now he sobs, now he sings.


This is basically telling you that you are in love and placing much of your happiness on this guy. There is no judgement attached to this line, so officially you're supposed to draw your own conclusions, but seeing as this is Inner Truth, I think you're meant to think that this is a bad thing cause you need to keep your centre and your own truth and not rely on other people for your happiness.

Line 6:

Nine at the top means:
Cockcrow penetrating to heaven.
Perseverance brings misfortune.


This one is weird. There are some references to it on the forums and they're often different. The image is of trying to create inner truth by words, without substance. I think some people here have said it means you're overreaching (like a cock trying to get to heaven by crowing, not realising it won't get it there) so you should stop striving beyond your means, while others have said it's telling you to put some substance behind your words and take action rather than just talk.

If you've done this reading after doing lots of other ones on the same subject it could basically be the Yi telling you that 1. you're obsessing (or in love!) and 2. doing lots of readings is not enough to get what you want. It won't get you where you want to be. Maybe you should concentrate on asking about how to act or about outcomes of specific actions you can take.

Hope that helps at all.
 

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Dear kash, thank you !
So the Yi is talking directly to me after all.
There's certainly an obsessive element on my part at present but it's ending; I feel I'm reaching the end of that and finding my own inner balance again.
Thanks again.
 

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Once you end your unbalanced emotional roller coaster ride, you will see the (inner) truth much better. Line 3 speaks of your emotional roller coaster ride. As long as you are up and down, you will first want him, then not want him, then want him.

The third line is you. The sixth line is him, and he talks apparently, with no substance behind his talk. Does this ring true? If so, you are better off without him. But that is up to you. Maintain inner emotional balance and it will help you see more clearly the (inner) truth.

Gene
 

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Dear Gene, thank you for your reply, I just read it. How do you make the distinction that line 3 is me and line 6 is him? What if there were more than two changing lines?

Hurting as I am, I decided to ask the Yi: "Is there anything that I can do that will bring [] and me together again so we are a couple again?". I got 22.6>36 which is pretty confusing. What is the Yi telling me? Is there any hope for this relationship?

I also asked: "Why is [] NOT getting in touch with me?" and got 34.6>14.
 
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There are no final rules in reading the I Ching, just guidelines. I knew you are line three because it is yin, and it describes your state of mind. Line six corresponds with line three, so I knew that it was him. It is also a yang line. On another level it is not him but just the direction of the relationship, there is only illusion there. Add that to hexagram five, and I realize that the waiting of hexagram five is like the rooster crowing, but doesn't actually do anything.

As far as hexagram 22 line 6, the hexagram as a whole sometimes refers to someone who is not seeing things the way they really are and/or do not have adequate information to make a decision. In line six the truth starts to come out. And out of that comes hexagram thirty six which is a darkening of the light. As important as this relationship is to you, it is important to as you said, "face the truth," and put it behind you. Doing more readings is not going to help. You need to face things as they are, I am sorry to say.

Gene
 

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Dear Gene,

Thank you again for taking the time to reply. You wrote just as I had added another question that I asked the YiChing (and the answer I got) but I guess that you are right and that it doesn't do me any good to continue asking about this relationship. It seems to be over...

Be well
 

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