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Burning Out Your Connection To The I Ching

TaoYinYang

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A Jungian online said you can burn out your connection to the I Ching. I thought, "exactly!"

But today on an app I received hexagram 1 changing at every line which took 8 years of unregulated use haha. It was such a trivial question that it doesn't even matter haha.

Anyone else ever burn out there connection?? Now or in the past??
 

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Hi,

what do you mean by: burn out ?

Burnout is a state of emotional, physical, and mental exhaustion caused by excessive and prolonged stress. (not unlike 47)

I'm really not sure what you or that jungian was trying to say.
 

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it just means when you over ask to the point where the connection is gone and you aren't really getting anything, nothing's happening, that's what he means by burn out I presume.

I think it happens pretty much like it happens in human conversation. You meet a friend who tells you her problems, you listen and suggest things but it's like you never spoke and she keeps on and on and on and your eyes glaze over and roll in your head and soon you just start saying anything...I mean whatever you ask there will be an answer, a hexagram will appear but at burnout point there may be nothing there

whether it does happen like burnout is up to the individual to assess, for myself I would say I have seen burnout though it's generally around fixation on a particular issue hence repeated questions. repeated questions lead to burnout, the wires fry. We do get warning of this sometimes when the answers start to come as commentary on the questioning process.

I also think there's times where the connection isn't strong for a variety of reasons. It's been compared to tuning into radio frequency, sometimes there is just 'white noise'. One might ask well who is to tell what is 'white noise' and what is 'answers we don't understand' and there's no answer to that other than the sense the querent gets of it.
 

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Depending on your belief system, there is the “you” part and the “Yi” part. I am not sure if the Yi gets burned out but I am pretty sure you can. I think of consulting as making an appointment with your boss to discuss an issue. You wouldn’t go to all that trouble to ask how to use the pencil sharpener. And it takes a certain amount of insight and mental energy to interpret the answer from an oracle. If I am not feeling very involved or interested in the issue, I tend to get answers that are not very helpful, or that I do not even understand. When something comes up that gets me stirred up, and I am thinking, “I would really appreciate some insight into this situation,” the answers seem to be more helpful.
 
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... But today on an app I received hexagram 1 changing at every line which took 8 years of unregulated use haha. It was such a trivial question that it doesn't even matter haha.
TaoYinYang, I'd be interested to know what your understanding of this reading is, and how it related to a query about 'Burning Out Your Connection to the I Ching'.

I first knew about the Yi probably in the late 60s - early 70's when it was a common item on many a 'hippy' or counterculture person's bookshelf (when I was about 15-19 years old)!. I think someone did a reading or two for me back then, though none that stuck.

My point I think is that it was very common back then for people to consult the Yi about everything: what to have for breakfast, what to wear, , should they hitchhike to LA to see the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl, should they go to work (generally response was No!), etc. And I'm sure many people may have 'burned out' on using the Yi that often or that 'casually'.

Moving to current time, I don't think the book itself has the ability to 'burn out'. And I think our 'burning out' may be related more to our overall relationship with the Yi, and not necessarily to the specific questions we ask.

I don't often use the Yi for 'should I have a milkshake with this burger'-type questions (and admittedly, I am often judgemental of those who do!), but even if I did, if I were open to really hearing the response, and also if I was willing to consider that it might be providing me with a more 'big-picture' response (that goes beyond burgers and milkshakes), I'd consider that valid, and maybe not burn-out. For example, perhaps if I were to ask about milkshakes and burgers, the response might be more about my own anxiety with small details, or about my relationship with food, or about my inability to make simple decisions, etc.

I like too Russel's analogy of meeting with your boss - do you really want to waste time asking about the pencil sharpener? I also sometimes consider consulting the Yi as similar to having a session with a counselor or therapist: where even a seemingly trival topic or a slight worry can be revealing. And of course there is also the age-old adage of there being too much of a good thing ....

Now, on to deciding what I should have for lunch ... hmm ...

Best, D.
 
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Chicken noodle soup and a toasted jalapeño bagel with cream cheese.
 
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Chicken noodle soup and a toasted jalapeño bagel with cream cheese.
Chicken noodle soup, yes, but a jalapeno bagel? - definitely not part of the mandate of heaven, at least not in my book! :cool:
 

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