business partner 27

[hopex]

there is a lady i have met through business who has the
same name as me. my name is unusual so we both found
it amusing. She has approached me for a business venture.
Recently I called on her for a favour we socialised and got
on well enough. I have always worked alone but have seen
people work better with a partner - 2 heads are better than
one.

I am concerned that this lady is more intelligent than me - I
asked the Yi a couple of days ago and got something changing
to 23 which I immediately took as a no.

However I have asked the Yi again today and got 27 unchanging
- does anyone think that bodes well?

The question was

Please tell me what I can achieve in collaboration with X

maybe 27 just means she can be a supportive friend rather than
business associate? I have some private business of which she
has had personal experience and I wish to know if I can tell her as
due to being a sole trader I have some problems which would not
have happened if I had been supported by a partnership
Thanks

 

[Trojina]

there is a lady i have met through business who has the
same name as me. my name is unusual so we both found
it amusing. She has approached me for a business venture.
Recently I called on her for a favour we socialised and got
on well enough. I have always worked alone but have seen
people work better with a partner - 2 heads are better than
one.

I am concerned that this lady is more intelligent than me - I
asked the Yi a couple of days ago and got something changing
to 23 which I immediately took as a no.

However I have asked the Yi again today and got 27 unchanging
- does anyone think that bodes well?

The question was

Please tell me what I can achieve in collaboration with X

maybe 27 just means she can be a supportive friend rather than
business associate? I have some private business of which she
has had personal experience and I wish to know if I can tell her as
due to being a sole trader I have some problems which would not
have happened if I had been supported by a partnership
Thanks

baffled. Why would you worry she is more intelligent than you...and how could you take 23 as a 'no' like her intelligence level was something that could be certified as fact or something

anyway if you want to work with her why does she have to be stupider than you ? It seems a peculiar requirement in a business partner.....or do you mean you want her to be more intelligent than you...or more experienced ?

 

[Trojina]

I think you meant you want her to be more intelligent than you....which is still quite an alien concept to me...but ..

...anyway I don't see how 23 answers that....it advises you to get rid, undermining....but of what ?

so then you asked what you can acheive and got 27 unchanging....mmmmm its like asking you 'well what you want to acheive ? What do you want ?'

Here I think you need better questions that ask what you actually want to know which is if it is beneficial for you to work with this woman....isn't it ?

If you asked that 23 would look like a no, but the 27 is very open, it asks you the question of what you want

I feel you need to put yourself back into the picture here.....rather than viewing the woman as a 'specimen' as in 'is she intelligent ?' well thats not your problem....plus it really isn't something that easily quantifiable....so you really need to know if you and this woman can increase each other, if you can work profitably together ? Isn't that your concern

Questions are important if you aren't 'getting' your answers and I feel your questions here make it very difficult to make sense of the answers. Mind you you did 'get' your answer you said 23 meant she was less intelligent than you...is that because you were thinking of 'nourishing people below' ?


At least 27 asks you to decide what your specific needs are from her . When you have thought about that then maybe you can see if she can complement those needs.


People are intelligent in different ways...so it depends what kind of intelligence you need to complement your own.

 

[hopex]

thanks Trojan

i asked - please tell me if X and I can work profitably together

The response was 26.2.6>36 hum???

 

[patro]

Hopex,
please post the first ever reading you did about the lady... i mean the one with 23... and the related question.
lets firstly analyse that one... i would skip all other for now.

 

[hopex]

ok Patro - unusual for me but i did not write it down

 

[rosada]

My experience with asking the I Ching the same question a second time has been that the second answer does not negate the first answer but builds on it. Thus if your first question is "What is the potential for a business partnership with this woman?" and you receive 23. Splitting Apart , which I would interpret as meaning you two would not be able to build a partnership, and then you ask the same question again a few days later and receive 27. Nourishment, I would interpret the second reading as a follow up to the first and thus could be interpreted to mean "While you may not build a profitable business together you may find that you talk about the potential a lot, Nourish the idea, but still nothing comes of it" - that is, the second reading does not change the first one.

The exception would be if there is some major change after you ask the question the first time, then it may be possible to ask the question a second time and get a different answer. For example, if after you received Splitting Apart something happens that you feel fulfills that prediction such as if you and the other lady Split Apart and then meet again down the road, or if you two had one idea but dropped it, Split Apart from the original plan, or if you were involved in some other project that was preventing you from going further with the new project and then Split Apart from that entanglement so you can be available for this new plan, then I would feel it would be appropriate to ask the I Ching a second time.

rosada

 

[Trojina]

But Hopex asked 2 entirely different questions. he got 23 unchanging for "is this lady more intelligent than me " and 27 for "what can i acheive in collaberation with her" so they aren't the same questions


I'm still very curious as to what Hopex meant by the first question though ?

 

[Trojina]

thanks Trojan

i asked - please tell me if X and I can work profitably together

The response was 26.2.6>36 hum???

Well 36 looks like you don't really feel at ease with each other perhaps...or one of you feels stymied by the other, feels they can't be who they are and shine out in their abilities...it could be you if you fear she is more intelligent than you then you may fear feelings of inadequacy ? i still don't know what you meant re the stuff about her intelligence so I could be wrong there

Against that context of the feeling of 'hiding' away it seems there is as yet unused potential there. 26.2 shows you can't access it right now...something in the situation is 'broken'' I don't know what that might be...some kind of problem between you ? 26.6 is meant to be very fortunate line..'treading heavens way'

Your first cast 23 is probably important to revisit ....if only we knew what the question actually meant ?

 

[Trojina]

I am concerned that this lady is more intelligent than me - I
asked the Yi a couple of days ago and got something changing
to 23 which I immediately took as a no.

That is the first question to which 23 was the response

 

[patro]

My experience with asking the I Ching the same question a second time has been that the second answer does not negate the first answer but builds on it.

I'm still very curious as to what Hopex meant by the first question though ?

that's why i asked for the entire reading... question and answer. firstly because i'm not sure about and because the first reading is a time capsule.... while all reading after the first are related to a specific situation regardless the question.

 

[Trojina]

that's why i asked for the entire reading... question and answer. firstly because i'm not sure about and because the first reading is a time capsule.... while all reading after the first are related to a specific situation regardless the question.

I see

 

[hopex]

Apologies for confusion i lost the first cast
never wrote it down - doh!!! Now i will never
know any suggestions for starting this enquiry
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