Can I trust my intuition 2.2.5 to 29

[loverofknowledge]

Hi All,
I received an intuitive recognition, about something, but afterwards began to doubt, because the intuition was somewhat illogical and out in left field.
I asked , "Can I trust my intuition "? Or are my doubts justified?
I received 2.2.5 to 29
Any thoughts? One noteworthy thing: the first hexagram (2) is earth /earth and the second (29) is water/water. That seems significant somehow.
Curious about any reflections or intuitive hunches you may have.
Happy Saturday! ::bows:

 

[Sixth Relative]

Hi

From a text-based interpretation:
In hex 2 you're led by reality, what you see is what it is; in hex 29 you are led by fear/emotions. The tricky thing here is to know whether hex 2 represents your intuitive recognition and hex 29 the posterior doubt; or hex 2 represents your assessment that the intuition is illogical and out in left field.

From a Wen Wang Gua interpretation:
Both hexagram 2 and 29 are total conflict hexagrams. In WWG, a total conflict hexagram means NO when the questions is a yes/no question. But once again, this is tricky: if you asked Can I trust my intuition, in the hope that you can, then it is like NO, you can't trust your intuition; but if you asked Can I trust my intuition in the fear that you should not trust it, then it is like NO, you fear is not justified.

In my experience every time hex 2 comes as the answer, regardless the question and the method, I've found useful to note that what I see is what it is... whether I like or not what I see, that's another issue, but I can trust my assessment of the situation and follow reality as reality is, not what I wish to be.

 

[loverofknowledge]

Hi Sixth Relative, that's quite a puzzle, then. I was asking, Can I trust my intuition, in hope that I can -- and fear that I cannot. So this would be No, I cannot trust my intuition, according to your analysis.
I will ponder this.
You say "led by reality," -- as to my intuition, I do not have a deep wish that it should be as I sense, -- I mean, it's not strong and insistent -- though I'd like to trust my intuition, because it came to me as a knowing and recognition, and I'd like to trust that part of myself.
I look at line 2 -- straight square -- as saying, "it is what it is," here, that's how my intuition came to me, just straightforward and square (unique, plain). Line 5, about the yellow garment, seems to indicate straightforwardness, too, something positive that could be overlooked, but once I look more carefully, it is is auspicious.
So I took this to be "yes, " I can trust my intuition.
Then hex 29 seems to warn me to stay alert to challenges, rather than coasting.
Now that you've offered your thoughts, I will sit with them and see what occurs.
Thanks for your input!

 

[Trojina]

Hi All,
I received an intuitive recognition, about something, but afterwards began to doubt, because the intuition was somewhat illogical and out in left field.
I asked , "Can I trust my intuition "? Or are my doubts justified?
I received 2.2.5 to 29
Any thoughts? One noteworthy thing: the first hexagram (2) is earth /earth and the second (29) is water/water. That seems significant somehow.
Curious about any reflections or intuitive hunches you may have.
Happy Saturday! ::bows:

I'd say this indicates you need to have the courage to go with your hunches. Line 2 is pretty direct here. It actually says there is no rehearsal required...will quote from Hilary's translation in WikiWing

'Straight, square, great.
Without repetition, there is nothing that does not bear fruit.

If ever there was an endorsement for you being able to follow on your intuition, without second guessing, this is surely it. If you think about it knowing without learning or repetition is either instinct or intuition. Also in general hexagram 2, the sensitivity of the mare, sensing things, following, all these qualities involve a kind of intuition. If intuition is sensing, being guided, being open like the earth and responsive like the mare then what better answer could you have to your question ? Line 5 shows the less obvious, the less showy side of mental faculties perhaps. Intuition is quiet. It doesn't announce itself in the way other kinds of knowing do.

Hexagram 29 here shows one needing to hold the heart steady, to take a risk, to ride the currents here. So 29 here may show the very nature of trusting the intuition, or at least how it feels to you. It can feel like quite a ride, quite a risk, you don't know where it will take you yet there is a necessity to trust because you have to.

Also 29 often shows repeated emotional chasms. Wondering if what you are having the intuition about is some kind of emotional danger you might meet that you have encountered before ?

 

[loverofknowledge]

Trojina, very well articulated, yes.
An emotional danger? I'd say, something like a test, a familiar kind of test, together with fear that I may fall into an earlier rut, when put to such a test.
My intuition told me something about it, in a plain way.
I will probably be able to ascertain the validity of my intuition, not long from now, and I'll report the results. There has been lots of discussion of the yellow garment in line 5. I take yellow to be a color indicating docility too, somehow. Thanks for sharing your insights.

 

[thisismybody]

I'm with Trojina. I think she's on point. I just want to add that hex 2 IS the hex for following intuition, the subtle signs. Read some hex 2 unchanging threads. The danger of 29 is the inherent danger of following your heart. Its signs are not written in blood or in the sky. Also, I'll add that kan is actually a dimension of kun. 2.5 leads the hex. It's to the southwest. 8 is to the southwest. There's an attraction/belonging principle here. The dangers of the abyss are likened to falling in love. One must follow her heart, her intuition through the darkness. Intuition is like the seeing in the dark. We also can use the characteristics of 2.2 and 2.5 to know the 8s we belong to or the paths to avoid or follow. I think inherent in the qualities of those defined, as if 2.2 was a woman or a feminine presence of intuition (not being sexist), and 2.5 was as well, she'd know exactly who she's meant to fall in love with and which path she is meant to follow. This doesn't guarantee or dictate the ending as "happy." We end up many of times right where we need to be, even as we move swiftly, hopefully, through the abyss and whatever wastelands we find ourselves in and not the greener pastures we've hoped for.

 

[loverofknowledge]

thisismybody
Yes the excitement (and perils) of the heart, combined with an absolute knowing, of the direction to follow -- very alluring and potent.
In this instance, the thing I'm asking about was actually a precognition, knowing in advance what will happen. It popped into my consciousness, "Ah , yes! " then later I doubted. So that's why I posed the question.
Thank you for your input.

 

[thisismybody]

Hi lover,

It all still applies, especially so, I think. I've had 5 big premonitions in my life that I can recount at the moment. 3 of deaths. I never know who it is exactly, but it's someone vital, always someone close, either family or someone on the soul level whose departure will radically affect my life for years to come. I think peril applies even more. K'an is more present in precognition and premonition. I say that because I feel as though I'm in the abyss when I get this "feeling." It's like feeling the future resonate or vibrate as if a dimension right over me or in me. There's no real way to describe it. When it happens, I've learned that I must not have anxiety but face with courage, so I do not impede the flow. And I absolutely trust it. They've been so strong doubt cannot rid the feeling because it sometimes will last for 2-3 weeks. I know something's coming. The doubt comes in later when I'm trying to decipher what I feel. "Oh, maybe I'm just making it up." I know I'm not. It makes no rational since, but neither does that feeling of deep love and resonation with those we belong to. Even that word "resonation" provides a clue. Those soul level attractions. They're perilous because they're straight from the abyss, the void, the home we've forgotten. There's a layer of memory loss or a veil. Transcending that veil is hanging into the abyss. It's like the falling I've described. Coming in to truth or knowledge is the same. It's the moment when we can feel and understand and know that all time is one. It's all happening right know. For some reason we've been allowed or are able to transcend the veil.

This 2.2.5>29 reading you've gotten has added another dimension to 2 and her lines and to her connection with k'an. Maybe the yellow skirt is capable in her depth of walking the middle between such a sharp edge--the veil between now and the future. 2.2 is the field of the possible made actually present on earth, in the now.

Thank you for this thread. All the talk of 2 lately is deepening my ability to see the possible. Maybe that's all k'un. Do nothing to discern.

 

[thisismybody]

In another thread on the yellow skirt from the reading circle, butterfly spider wrote:

Good fortune from the source-

I think it is saying that the benefit of the situation is in revealing something hidden. Revealing a pattern perhaps

 

[loverofknowledge]

Hi, that is beautiful, thisismybody -- very nicely stated, poetically nuanced, thought-provoking, inspiring.
(The voice query and skepticism: could this oracle be salvaged if my hunch turned out to be disconfirmed? You see, I'm not expecting it, but if that were so, I'd feel forlorn and as if the oracle could not be trusted). In a sense I'm feeling the danger of putting the oracle, the iching itself, to the test....

 

[thisismybody]

Thank you. K'un inspires.

I'd feel forlorn and as if the oracle could not be trusted). In a sense I'm feeling the danger of putting the oracle, the iching itself, to the test....

I don't think you have to worry about putting Yi to the test. It is the Book of Changes. Circumstances can change. I also don't think the Yi is wrong here. Yes, you can trust your intuition. It gave you the answer to that question. You can. Now, did you actually have a premonition or precognitive moment? Maybe it didn't answer that. Free will can still change events. I think.

Are your doubts justified? That's the danger. The fear of not knowing or being able to prove. Since you're in the middle of this feeling, questioning and doubting, it's easier to miss the truth Yi spelled out. Again, you can trust your intuition. The question maybe to ask is, "was that an intuition?" I'm prone to think flashes of insight, just as they are tools of invention, do not come from us. We're not the creator. The muse, hexagram 2, the Receptive receives from the creator, maybe Ch'ien? She's under Ch'ien's field of influence, as you are. I posted some stuff about 2 in "open space" I feel applies here. I'll re-post. Give me a sec. :bows:

 

[thisismybody]

Characteristics of K'un and Ch'ien

"a magnetized needle as a compass to guide their land chariots across the vast steppes leading south. 'To them the south was more important than the north, by reason that where the sun stood highest there was the life-giving centre'"

The zenith. That's beautiful. Ch'ien as their life-giving center.

I've written in another thread about 2 unchanging that K'un is that inner compass. She is also a physical compass as we use the actual earth and her land markers to direct and guide us. She's also her own magnetic compass. The reason we can use a magnetic compass is because of her magnetism, her north and south poles. There also exist electromagnetic grids around the earth that carries the resononance of everything on the earth. Rupert Sheldrake calls this the morphogenetic field or morphic field, if I remember correctly. Earth, or K'un, carries life. Out of the darkness of her womb comes life. Light filled the void as if inseminating her. You know, it's like we are living compasses grounding down and into her field. Hilary blogged about this "resonance." I wonder how much our ability to ground our energy into the earth allows us to receive Ch'ien, the sounds of the spheres, the will of heaven, or hear it's language, like a radio receiver. Which now we're into radios and again electromagnetic frequencies!
Radio waves are generated by radio transmitters and received by radio receivers. Different frequencies of radio waves have different propagation characteristics in the Earth's atmosphere... (Wikipedia)
The (radio) transmitter, the earth, as capable of harnessing aspects of divine energy, "radio waves," and "sending" it to be "received" or grounded by a (radio) receiver, again the earth, our bodies. (With that thought, hexagrams truly are a perfect symbolic representation of man as intermediary between heaven and earth in the lines. Just beautiful!)

It makes sense to me they regarded the south as more important so as to be in correct relation to the sun. We grow upward, just as trees do, fighting gravity, which grounds us to the earth. We both have roots and branches. All life seems to orient towards Ch'ien, physically and spiritually. Such a word as "aspiration" comes to mind, which is of the spirit. It strives upward like Ch'ien. But the soul does not. It strives downward, burying itself in the details of life, in its memories and compulsions. Like K'un. The only reason I figure hexagram 2 is over 1 in T'ai is because the strong carries the weak in order to give birth. They must come together as we do in the human and animal sphere. But there could be more to this. The word "inversion" comes to mind. The generating principle of creation must somehow need to return to itself, since the monad that goes outside itself to create the polygonic universe in sacred geometry must somehow need to return after the creation to maybe be complete. Maybe it simultaneously travels in the different directions?

Based on hexagram 11, it seems K'un would be in the north and Ch'ien in the south. But, in hexagram 8 and 45, K'un is below grounding down her energy and allowing the energies "rest" in her, which provide the correct sphere for human relations. It's no coincidence that K'an (water) and Tui (lake) rest on her.

 

[loverofknowledge]

Hi, your post about hexagram 2 is philosophically deft.
Yes, I can trust my intuition, in general.
Without going into all the details, I received a certain hunch, like a precognition, it seemed right. So I'll know if it's right in around a week, I believe.
Since my question is specific, "could I trust my intuition about such and such.." and the 2.2.5 reading seems to say, YES, I guess I'm in the position, somewhat, of asking the Yi a yes/no question, which may not be the most subtle approach. And by Sixth Relative's reading, a 2 in such cases is a NO.
It's true that people and circumstances do change, but this was something like what you said about knowing in advance that someone has died -- or has gotten married? (that too?) -- something easy to verify.
Whatever happens, I will learn.

 

[thisismybody]

Ah, I thought you had asked a more general question.

I've seen 2 answer both as "yes" and "no." I don't think Yi meant to answer so simply. That's my take. But, then again, what do I know. Your intuition has to guide you, and you have a an on-going dialogue with the Yi. It may speak in your language, not mine.

I think we can definitely sense something like death or marriage. Keep us updated!

 

[loverofknowledge]

Update:

The Yi guided me correctly, 2.2.5 to 29 -- yes, I can trust my intuition.
However, in terms of the concrete question I asked, I received only a qualified "yes".
I had a hunch, based on a certain inference. This hunch was quite different from what I thought, in light of the bigger picture.

So that's why it was a qualified yes : yes, trust your intuition, but no, don't cling to a single hunch as the whole picture.

I get an overall picture or "gestalt,"of a situation, but I fall into danger (29) when I try to force a yes/no answer, based on one single piece of information or hunch.

ALSO: not all the information is in yet, so I may get more insight about the reading, later. I'll update if so.

I am not giving all the details but I hope this update makes sense to those of you following the thread.