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gina

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Hello friends,
I used the online I Ching here to ask about an issue in my life. I am afraid I am biased in interpreting the answers because I would like to ignore the situation for awhile, but it seems the responses could go either way.
Could you give me some objective help?

Situation ( complicated!) : I have lifelong dental issues. just about every tooth I have is a crown and has root canal. My front six teeth are crowns.. all connected.
Recently I was having a strange feeling above one of the side teeth in this six teeth. No pain just sensitive. When I was having my teeth cleaned, the dentist noticed that there was indeed a fissure in my gum towrds the front, meaning infection. Long story short, she traced it back to the very back molar, gave me antibiotics and sent me to a root canal specialist to re-do that root canal.

Long story short, I have been to two root canal specialists to look at the back molar. BOTH said they could see no infection (the fissure is gone/healed) and could find no good reason to re-do this root canal. BUt the strange feeling persists and seems to slightly feel worse, except that I personally think it is not the BACK molar, but the tooth more to the front. My regular dentist had not seemed to think there was any problem in the x-ray with any of the front teeth, so I am trying to just ignore this strange feeling as sinus pressure. I WANT to think it is sinus pressure and NOT an undiscovered problem in the front side tooth. Hate dental work at this point.

sorry so confusing! But the questions I asked are these:

Is there a problem here I need to deal with? 21. line 3 and 4 leading to 22.

What if I ignore it? 9 lines 2 and 3 leading to 42

Is there an infection? 26 lines 1, 2, 3 leading to 23

Is it just me or could these readings be saying "dont worry, it will go away" In another way, they all look like they could say the opposite, too. 21 could mean problem but also just mean teeth, and 22 looks like it might be okay.
Does 42 mean the problem will increase or is it fortunate for ignoring?
Does any one have an intutiive feeling about these readings?

Thank you in advance. Gina
 

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"Is there a problem here I need to deal with? 21. line 3 and 4 leading to 22."

hex 21.3 says that you have a long standing problem that needs fixing.

hex 21.4 says that you will have to persevere to get the problem sorted out.

Hex 22 suggests that after fixing the problem, you will once again have an attractive set of teeth, you will gain beauty because the problem has been removed.

"What if I ignore it? 9 lines 2 and 3 leading to 42"

Both hex 9.2 and 3 suggests that you are facing obstacles here and are being prevented from taking action so wait for the moment.

Hex 42 suggests an increase in the problem if you leave it, thus causing furhter trouble.

"Is there an infection? 26 lines 1, 2, 3 leading to 23

I think this suggests, hex 26.1,2,3, danger and hex 23 means to split apart, deteriorate, ie at some stage infection will set in.
 

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Thank you so much willowfox. After writing my questions and responses out, I felt like I was being silly not seeing the obvious! Thank you for taking the time to help. Your answers make big sense.
Gina
 

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gina said:
Hello friends,


Is there a problem here I need to deal with? 21. line 3 and 4 leading to 22.

What if I ignore it? 9 lines 2 and 3 leading to 42

Is there an infection? 26 lines 1, 2, 3 leading to 23

Is it just me or could these readings be saying "dont worry, it will go away" In another way, they all look like they could say the opposite, too. 21 could mean problem but also just mean teeth, and 22 looks like it might be okay.
Does 42 mean the problem will increase or is it fortunate for ignoring?
Does any one have an intutiive feeling about these readings?

Thank you in advance. Gina


My impression of these answers is along the line of yours, try to ignore it awhile, which I think 9 is advising and hopefully it wll be okay (42) (of course I can't say for sure). I relate this answer to following what you've been told by the dentists - perhaps you need to allow yourself to believe,follow them a bit more.

I see your 26 answer as saying there may have been the beginning of an infection or problem but your body put up, or is putting up a pretty good fight, you have good physical resources to fight it it and finish it off (23)

Your 21 answer to is there a problem, I think there is some hang over from previous dental work, previous dental problems that is causing the sensations you have. Teeth are weird things, I've had tremendous pain following dental work and have been assured nothing is wrong - (its hard to believewhen they tell you that isn't it.) But then it settles down and is okay as they said, but takes a long time.

I admit I'm not that confident of my interpretation of the 21 to 22 here as 21 normally indicates a problem to be dealt with, and it is Biting Through ! Yet your other answers I feel advise you to wait and see, and 22 seems favourable healthwise. :)
 

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Thank you Trojan! That is why I was confused! It really seems the responses could be taken either way. Actually, the weird feeling in the gum has died down , right after I made the appt to go back to my regular dentist and have an xray in front....the path from the infection seemed to lead to the back molar. I will probably keep the appt just to be sure since the front xrays were not done this last time. But I am hopeful.

Yes, teeth are weird!!!! One time I even had a tooth pulled because I was up all night in "toothache" pain, even after a surgery on the root. The tooth got pulled.......and the phantom pain persisted! It was awful, but it eventually subsided and they chalked it up to sinus pain. Sinus pain can mimic toothache apparently....but I paid an expensive price to find that out.
Thank you for taking the time to share your feelings about the readings with me. Appreciate it.
Gina
 

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I agree completely with Willowfox. Only with hex.9 I rather interpret it as caring for your small livestock. Sheep and goats.. Might be Yi's best way to describe teeth. If you try to ignore it, you will be reminded. Maybe even losing spokes.

And hexagram 22 is not only about beauty, it is about health. "Is there a problem?", yes, about biting and health.

With this answer I rather think the dentist is wrong than your feelings.

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I second the agreement with WF. You have a problem, though small now, and it will get worse if you leave it. You need to keep trying to find the problem, despite the hassle of going to dentist after dentist. I think the middle changing lines in your answers may be pointing to a problem in the "middle" part- of the tooth, maybe.
 

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Thank you everyone. I am going tomorrow back to the regular dentist to have frontal -side exrays. HMMM, I never knew that 22 is about health as well; I thought perhaps meant I was taking the situation too seriously. BUt I will definitely be pursuing this. so Thank you all very much. I will report back!
Gina
 

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hi gina...this is very interesting...would be interested to know how things go in relation to interpretations...hope it all goes well:)
 

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Hello friends,
I saw the dentist today and had frontal exrays. The exrays look perfect she said, bone all looks healthy, and no infection can be seen. She said two interesting things to me. One was the suggestion/question that maybe I "bit down hard on something" and that could cause a temporary pressure in the gum, affecting my bite in general. This really fit in with the 21 and I think I do recall a minor trauma like that.
As far as the original infection for which I was given anibiotics, she said there was no trace of it anymore. A "best case scenario" she said, since infections rarely disappear entirely, but usually only subside a bit with antibiotics. She said my body seemed to fight that off completely, now two months later. This fits with the 26 to 23
In two-three months she will rexamine to see if anything new shows up on xray, but saw no reason to do anything right now.
I really appreciate all the input! My orignal instinct was like trojan's view, and I suppose sometimes the I Ching response speaks directly to instinct/intuition of the asker. It was a tricky one, and I will follow up, but it actually does feel back to normal now.:)
Thank you again all.
Gina
 

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Good news and really interesting that she asked if you had 'bitten hard' on something. Hope things stay okay for you :)
 

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Hmm.... I am becoming more convinced that looking at transitional hexagrams are key to good intepretations. Look at the very clear explanation of what you have just described in 21.3.4 (22):

21.3 "Bites down on old dried meat, strikes something poisonous, slight humiliation".. or in other words, "biting down, slight problem", changes to 30- which is a highly sensational type of hexagram. Lots of energy in hexagram 30, a bright flash.

30.4 "Its coming is sudden, it flames up, dies down, and is thrown away". A temporary problem that dies out quickly.

And the resulting hexagram of 22 is perfectly described by LiSe as a reference to restored health.

Now, I have seen 23 used by the Yi to refer to infections. So, I'm certain that 23 is referencing your infection, but how interesting that as the resulting hexagram, it indicated that the energy of 26 (self-healing, containment) had conquered. Another reason to examine resulting hexagrams as "contextual", and not necessarily future tendencies.
 

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I thought of adding this because it happened to me recently.. I see concrete, literal descriptions in medical readings a lot, but just recently, I had one that wasn't literal.

My teenage daughter had to have a root canal, and she was in a lot of pain. She took her antibiotic and her pain medication at the same time, and an hour later was vomiting severely. Because she took them both at the same time, we didn't know for certain which medicine had caused the problem. She's allergic to penecillian, and so I was very suspicious of the antibiotic and blamed the antibiotic. I asked, 'what will happen if she takes the antibiotic again?" I got 43.3 (58).

To make a long story short, with her sensitive system and very petite build she can't take codeine. The codeine in her medicine was making her vomit. So, I interpret my medical question about the antibiotic to mean, "the antibiotic is falsely accused and reviled by you, but will work fine if you let her take it".

So, you just never know how to look at the answer, and intuition seems to be the most reliable key every time.
 

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I suppose that hex 21.3,4 could have meant that you a have long standing problem that needs to be fixed, your feelings that something is wrong, therefore you must persevere and see the dentist. Hex 22 is the outcome of seeing the dentist and says that after treatment you will gain beauty both in appearance and mind, ie your worries will prove to be negative.
Hex 9.2,3 does suggest holding back, so with hind sight this is what they meant. Hex 42 says that if you have faults then get rid of them, the fault here was that you felt something was indeed wrong, so you took advice and went to see the dentist and this proved to be a successful thing to do.
Hex 26.1,2,3 says not to rush ahead, use self restraint, be careful, obstacles in the way, again with hind sight this issuggesting that there are obstacles to the infection infecting you. Hex 26.1,2,3 is talking about the infection and not about you. That the infection is not showing itself now because it is not it's time to develop, it faces too many problems so it cannot grow. Hex 23 means to split apart, a new cycle just starting for it, a time to remain dormant, so is it saying that the infection should bide its time and wait for a better opportunity because for the moment it is deteriorating, peeling off, that it should submit to the bad times and stay quiet and take no action.

This interpretation was done with hind sight after gina had been to the dentist as the advise in Hex 21.3,4 had advised her to do which resulted in hex 22 freedom from worry. So that was the correct outcome. Both hex 9.2,3 suggested that nothing was wrong but hex 42 again suggested sorting it out by seeing the dentist, which did indeed relieve her problem. As for the infection that seems to says that for the present time there is no infection but it will return at a later time this year. The antibotics have worked their magic for the present time.
 

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