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That's priceless Rosada, love it! Let's keep it nice and practicalI asked the I Ching for an example of a line indicating a positive relationship and received 50.1 - 14.
50.1 Taking a concubine for the sake of her son.
14. Supreme good fortune.
I guess the I Ching isn't into Romance.
:roll:
Ok thanks for explaining Mary. So if someone is asking about romantico-sexual activity, I consider 17, 19, 31, 46, 34, 44, 57 and perhaps 8 as good omens (but it would depend on the exact combination/lines). Bad omens would include 56, 47, 48, 25, 36, 28. My lists are neither absolute nor exclusive, though.Diamanda I mean when someone, for example, asks "will i find a partner in January?"
Hi, Mary:What about the casts that indicate romantic partnership? I don't have much experience in the matter. The lines about meeting a partner/mate/companion, as well as the lines that indicate good fortune when asking about the possibility of meeting a partner, seem promising. I also can think of hexagram 8 uc/relating.
What do you think? Do you have any experience?
Hi, Rosada:I asked the I Ching for an example of a line indicating a positive relationship and received 50.1 - 14. 50.1 Taking a concubine for the sake of her son. 14. Supreme good fortune.
I guess the I Ching isn't into Romance.
:roll:
Infidelity is a very specific matter, hence easier to pinpoint.
Hi, Mary:Charly;
The thing is, the concubine is taken "to bear a son" in the line Rosada received ; in other words, for a purpose other than love/sex/romance. And notice, Rosada asked an example for"a positive relationship". As if the I Ching values relationships of no love, but personal benefit.
Still I don't argue about its patriarchal view. No surprise, I know it's a very ancient text; but admittedly, its view of women sometimes bother me.
Hi, Rosada: ...
I asked the I Ching for an example of a line indicating a positive relationship and received 50.1 - 14.
50.1 Taking a concubine for the sake of her son.
14. Supreme good fortune.
I guess the I Ching isn't into Romance.
:roll:
I find it confusing when people get an oracle reading which says a specific omen, e.g. good fortune or misfotune, and stretch it here there and everywhere, till it fits what they originally had in mind (usually some super generalistic notion of get rid of negativity, learn, advance, etc.). If there's no positive or negative, then anything could mean anything. For example we can ask how will my year be? and we get 47 unchanging. Then we can stretch it to absurdity to mean something 'positive'.i find it so confusing when even the most advanced diviners get caught up in the positive vs negative reading... there is no positive or negative, everything is relative
...
as to the line - it could very well indicate a romantic relationship for someone. but in the question asked, we neither know the context nor the subject that seeks the answer... we can imagine though, that in such example, let's say, some guy meets a girl who already has a child, and is in doubt if it's a good idea to continue, being afraid either of his own position or being a good stepfather for the kid, or generally having some difficulties making a decision - in such case:
A ting with legs upturned.
Furthers removal of stagnating stuff.
One takes a concubine for the sake of her son.
No blame.
his doubts or lack of self confidence could be the stagnating stuff and if he removes them, accepts the girl together with her life situation and believes in himself a bit more - supreme success might be the result? it's kinda funny to do a reverse reading and try to guess who the person asking might be
anyway, as to the I Ching's sexist commentary - there's plenty of ways around it, i think. it might be difficult and tiresome at times, but i noticed that the less i focus on the annoying parts, the more helpful and fruitful the symbolism behind all these ancient stories becomes...
I disagree with this unrealistic approach.
I like hexagram 13 although it's not about intimate relationships. It is called "Fellowship" and, as you say, can be a good place to start getting closer to people. My most positive romantic experiences have been with boys I met first in the large group of friends. Plus, the fellowship is valuable on its own.ah, also, i wouldn't ignore the importance of 13 - for me this quite often shows the potential of initially meeting someone special, within a larger group maybe, but hey, one thing leads to another...
I like hexagram 13 although it's not about intimate relationships. It is called "Fellowship" and, as you say, can be a good place to start getting closer to people.
In ancient royal #China I imagine this to be an auspicious opportunity Now well yes if having a child is your valueDiamanda I mean when someone, for example, asks "will i find a partner in January?"Oh rosada so maybe it's better not to ask I Ching about love at all, or maybe interpret its negative answers in that matter positively and vice-versa What could I expect if I Ching considers "being taken as a concubine to bear a son" very positive?
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