changing lines included

[Hepzibah]

Dear All,I cast a question about a relationship using my name and the other persons name.Hexagram 46 pushing upwards changing to 55 abundance..Changing LinesLine 1'Welcomed pushing upward,Great good fortune.'Line 2'True and confident,And so it is fruitful to make the summer offering.No mistake.'Line 4'The king makes offerings on Mount Qi.Good fortune, no mistake.'Please help with the interpretation.Hepzibah

 

[diamanda]

What was your question? It's essential to know the exact wording.
Please also update this in your other new reading, so that we can help you.

 

[Hepzibah]

Question was: 'the relationship between (other persons name) and (my name)

 

[diamanda]

the relationship between (other persons name) and (my name), 46.1.2.4 > 55
The relationship as it stands is that one of you offers to the other a little, and the other offers a lot more.
The person who offers/sacrifices a large amount for the other, feels sad about it.
You are both sincere, but there's an imbalance, and a certain darkness in this relationship.

 

[Hepzibah]

the relationship between (other persons name) and (my name), 46.1.2.4 > 55The relationship as it stands is that one of you offers to the other a little, and the other offers a lot more.The person who offers/sacrifices a large amount for the other, feels sad about it.You are both sincere, but there's an imbalance, and a certain darkness in this relationship.

thank you Diamanda - how will I know which one offers a little and which one offers a lot?Could a cast another question for clarification on that one?

 

[Hepzibah]

ps I did another question for clarification, here it is...Can you give me a hexagram to clarify who is giving a little and who is giving a lot for the highest good of both in the relationship..37.1.5. 52 Line 1'With barriers, there is a home.Regrets vanish.'Line 5'The king enters his own home.Do not worry. Good fortune.'

 

[diamanda]

I don't believe in notions such as 'highest good', but for sure the woman gives more in this equation.
The man feels like a 'king', which implies the man feels entitled to taking and taking, whatever.
The kinglike attitude is mentioned both in 46.4 and in 37.5.

clarify who is giving a little and who is giving a lot 37.1.5 > 52
The woman is trying to establish order in the relationship.
The man behaves like a king and plunders.

Also on your other thread you asked how it is from her perspective, 44.3 > 6
She feels punished, beaten up, she would like to take a step but it's just impossible.

Very odd answers. Do they make any sense to you?

 

[Hepzibah]

I don't believe in notions such as 'highest good', but for sure the woman gives more in this equation.The man feels like a 'king', which implies the man feels entitled to taking and taking, whatever.The kinglike attitude is mentioned both in 46.4 and in 37.5.clarify who is giving a little and who is giving a lot 37.1.5 > 52The woman is trying to establish order in the relationship.The man behaves like a king and plunders.Also on your other thread you asked how it is from her perspective, 44.3 > 6She feels punished, beaten up, she would like to take a step but it's just impossible.Very odd answers. Do they make any sense to you?

Indeed they do Diamanda....I know relationships are our greatest teachers - is there a hexagram / meditation etc that the woman in this situation (giving a lot / sacrificing / feeling beaten up / /punished etc) could do to bring more balance into her life..?? It seems like she needs to look after herself first and foremost

 

[diamanda]

is there a hexagram / meditation etc that the woman in this situation (giving a lot / sacrificing / feeling beaten up / /punished etc) could do to bring more balance into her life..?? It seems like she needs to look after herself first and foremost

The issue here is inequality in give/take between two people, i.e. the issue is not the woman herself.
Meditation etc would do nothing to address the issue that her partner isn't as generous as she is.
The obvious solution is that she should negotiate better and fair terms of give/take with the man.
If they can't agree on the terms, she should look after herself by finding someone as generous as she is.

 

[Hepzibah]

OMG - am only starting out with the Yi and am gobsmacked.I read Hilary's post on relationships and it is so valuable..So using the following question 'I am seeking advice from the YI on the relationship between (persons name) and (my name), how to be with this relationship at this time'....I cast and received Hexagram 35, Advancing, just one hexagram with no changing lines!What do you think?Key QuestionsWhat gifts and opportunities have you been given?How can you make the most of them?Oracle'Advancing, Prince Kang used a gift of horses to breed a multitude.In the course of a day, he mated them three times.'Prince Kang was the brother of Wu, the Martial King who became first ruler of the Zhou dynasty. He supported him faithfully, and Wu rewarded him with a gift of horses.So when you are like Kang, you have remarkable gifts of strength and inspiration: gifts as beautiful as horses, that enable you to travel further and faster. You are popular; you are blessed. Kang did not just sit back and admire his horses; he worked intensively to multiply them and magnify the gift. To be truly blessed, you need to act accordingly; to advance and prosper, you need to seize all you are given as an opportunity.Image'Light comes forth over the earth: Advancing.A noble one's own light shines in her character.'SequenceAdvancing follows from Hexagram 34, Great Vigour:'Things cannot be completed with vigour, and so Advancing follows. Advancing means making progress.'PairAdvancing forms a pair with Hexagram 36, Brightness Hidden:'Advancing means daylight, Brightness Hidden means castigation.'

 

[Trojina]

To be honest what I find difficult with your posts is you include chunks of someone else's writing in your own post but don't indicate it is a quote....and also we don't really need to see that.

OMG - am only starting out with the Yi and am gobsmacked.I read Hilary's post on relationships and it is so valuable..So using the following question 'I am seeking advice from the YI on the relationship between (persons name) and (my name), how to be with this relationship at this time'....I cast and received Hexagram 35, Advancing, just one hexagram with no changing lines!What do you think?

So that is you writing your question....fine


...but what is all this below ? Is it copied from the online tool. It's copied from Hilary's book which I guess must be on the online tool but it's distracting when it's all clumped together with your own words

Key QuestionsWhat gifts and opportunities have you been given?How can you make the most of them?Oracle'Advancing, Prince Kang used a gift of horses to breed a multitude.In the course of a day, he mated them three times.'Prince Kang was the brother of Wu, the Martial King who became first ruler of the Zhou dynasty. He supported him faithfully, and Wu rewarded him with a gift of horses.So when you are like Kang, you have remarkable gifts of strength and inspiration: gifts as beautiful as horses, that enable you to travel further and faster. You are popular; you are blessed. Kang did not just sit back and admire his horses; he worked intensively to multiply them and magnify the gift. To be truly blessed, you need to act accordingly; to advance and prosper, you need to seize all you are given as an opportunity.Image'Light comes forth over the earth: Advancing.A noble one's own light shines in her character.'SequenceAdvancing follows from Hexagram 34, Great Vigour:'Things cannot be completed with vigour, and so Advancing follows. Advancing means making progress.'PairAdvancing forms a pair with Hexagram 36, Brightness Hidden:'Advancing means daylight, Brightness Hidden means castigation.'

So what you received was 35 unchanging. So all you need to say is what answer you received, here 35uc, what your questions was and most importantly what you think your answer means. So you can read the above commentary on 35 and apply it to your situation. So if you apply all that to your situation how would you see it.

Not meaning to be pernickety but I think it makes it harder to respond when chunks of someone else's text is copied in and it isn't obvious at first where your writing ends and theirs begins. I don't think you need to copy it in anyway, I think just gets in the way

 

[Hepzibah]

ok so just question and hexagram and changing lines needed - I copied the above from this site as I thought I needed to!thank you

 

[Hepzibah]

It also looks like if I apply what I read on 35uc it looks really positive??I am just starting here and all the symbols are complex

 

[diamanda]

Your question was "how to be with this relationship at this time".
Your answer was 35 unchanging.
If this is positive or not, depends on if you follow the advice or not.

I'm quite confused as to this: in the end who are you in the equation?
The man who gives little and likes to take a lot?
Or the woman who gives a lot and takes little back, and feels frustrated?

 

[Hepzibah]

Your question was "how to be with this relationship at this time".Your answer was 35 unchanging.If this is positive or not, depends on if you follow the advice or not.I'm quite confused as to this: in the end who are you in the equation?The man who gives little and likes to take a lot?Or the woman who gives a lot and takes little back, and feels frustrated?

I am the woman in the equation.I cast the question using the format suggested (to ask the YI for advice on how to be with this relationship at this time)The relationship has had very positive times over the past 10 years until recently.I thought Hexagram 35 was pointing to looking at the gifts the relationship had brought me (which are many) as a background context to re negotiating the inequality issues

 

[diamanda]

35 shows the sun rising over the earth, hence it shows rapid clarity.
It also mentions "in a single day he is granted audience three times", i.e. communication.
The Image mentions the need to be absolutely clear on what the "morals/ethics" are in the situation.

The advice on how you should be is straightforward:
you need to speak with your partner and gain clarity as to what exactly is going on.
And also, on what "moral" basis your relationship is standing on, at present.

I thought Hexagram 35 was pointing to looking at the gifts the relationship had brought me (which are many) as a background context to re negotiating the inequality issues

If it is indeed true that you are frustrated by the inequality of give/take, focusing on the small "gifts" you received in the past is the last thing you want to do. If you focus on what crumbs you receive from that person, you'll never be able to get a better deal. Much better to be crystal clear yourself on what it is that you truly want (from a proper Partner), and see if he can offer that or not. In any case, 35 says that clear communication is needed.

 

[Hepzibah]

35 shows the sun rising over the earth, hence it shows rapid clarity.It also mentions "in a single day he is granted audience three times", i.e. communication.The Image mentions the need to be absolutely clear on what the "morals/ethics" are in the situation.The advice on how you should be is straightforward:you need to speak with your partner and gain clarity as to what exactly is going on.And also, on what "moral" basis your relationship is standing on, at present.If it is indeed true that you are frustrated by the inequality of give/take, focusing on the small "gifts" you received in the past is the last thing you want to do. If you focus on what crumbs you receive from that person, you'll never be able to get a better deal. Much better to be crystal clear yourself on what it is that you truly want (from a proper Partner), and see if he can offer that or not. In any case, 35 says that clear communication is needed.

The person is not my partner. The situation is that I have done public relations work for the person for some years nowon a voluntary basis. This work brought him good fortune. I did this work as I was learning a lot and also enjoying it. This is not coming up in the cards but the work was joyful until recently. It was mentioned that I would be remunerated but that never actually happened...apart from crumbs.

 

[diamanda]

Well even if this is a professional relationship, the advice remains the same.
You need very clear communication with that person soon.