Clarification of Changing Lines - First time reader..

[akashra]

Clarification of Changing Lines - First time reader..

Hello!

I recently received an I-ching set (yarrow stalks) and have attempted to make my first read yesterday. However, I have some confusion when it comes to changing lines and how they affect the read. The book I have is not all that clear in this area. Specifically:

1. How does a changing line affect which Kua I read? ..

2. If i have a changing straight line, do I make that a broken line before reading the Kua? ... or read the Kua w/o the changing the line (as it is originally), and than look at what the additional (2nd Kua in the same question) would be read as for additional advice.

3. I've read that it creates change, and opposite reads as well... Is that because you change the broken line to a solid, and the kua change, or do you actually read the Kua and consider it as the opposite of what it says.

Sorry, this is all new to me, and I am really interested in getting it down accurately. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please something straight-forward perhaps at first to clarify my understanding and than more detailed information would be great...

Thank you in advance,

Richard (akashra@gmail.com)

 

[lightofreason]

See this post:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showpost.php?p=44205&postcount=4

and then this one:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showpost.php?p=44241&postcount=9

and then this one:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showpost.php?p=44252&postcount=11

and then this one:

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showpost.php?p=44288&postcount=19

See if all of that helps.

Chris.

 

[luz]

Hi Akshara,

I hope you have not given up on the whole thing by now after following those links ... I will try to answer your questions :

1. How does a changing line affect which Kua I read? ..

You get two hexes if you have one or more changing lines. The basic one you get doesn't change but you flip the changing lines and get the relating or tendential hexagram (it is known also by other names, I think).
How you see the relating hexagram is a matter of discussion. Some people see it as a future or tendency, others see it as a background of the situation.

2. If i have a changing straight line, do I make that a broken line before reading the Kua? ... or read the Kua w/o the changing the line (as it is originally), and than look at what the additional (2nd Kua in the same question) would be read as for additional advice.

You leave the original hex the way it is and then you construct the second by modifying the original one with the changing lines. For example, let's say you got the following hexagram:

________
__ X ___
________
________
________
___o____

that is hexagram 14 and it's your main hexagram. You got changing lines 1 and 5 so you then also build a relating hex by flipping the lines like this:

__________
__________
__________
__________
__________
____ _____

this is hexagram 44 and it's your relating hexagram.

3. I've read that it creates change, and opposite reads as well... Is that because you change the broken line to a solid, and the kua change, or do you actually read the Kua and consider it as the opposite of what it says.

You change broken lines to solid lines and viceversa. And what you get as a result can be seen as a background to the situation or as a tendency.

Hope this helps

 

[willowfox]

Hex 50 changing at 1 and 5 gives hex 1.

 

[luz]

Yes, but my first hex is supposed to be a 14 with the first line changing (and the 5th line chaging)... I know it looks like a 50 , but it's a 14...

Hope you feel better soon, WF

 

[akashra]

Thanks much light... That definetedly helped clarify things. I havent got a chance yet to look through all the links. Just the first, which was a little confusing at first, but what you last wrote clarified things for me, and now I can look into those for further clarification/elaboration. Much thanks,

Akashra.

 

[willowfox]

"Hope you feel better soon, WF",

Thanks lightangel, but I still ain't feeling 100% after 6 days now, still swallowing damn pills.