Coincidence? 20.2.3.6 > 48

[precision grace]

Hi

Hex 20 is always tricksy and with change to 48 it's almost as if it saying - this is what you are thinking about.. as if I didn't know what I was thinking about

I had asked what was significance of me developing infatuations last year with two men (M and J) and now this year with two men (M and J again!) the Ms actually have the same name, but Js are different. The coincidence of names seems significant to me so I cast for it and 20 > 48 was the result. I feel that it is echoing the process I am going through - that of figuring out what I like and what is right for me and being able to tell this, but I also feel like it's saying the names are a coincidence (even though I tend not to believe in coincidences) I still feel like there is some sort of lesson there, the patterns, when they repeat, isn't it because we haven't assimilated some message from Universe?

Anyway, do you agree that the Yi seems to be saying there is no other significance than me, contemplating what is right for me and what isn't?

 

[foxx777]

Hi

Hex 20 is always tricksy and with change to 48 it's almost as if it saying - this is what you are thinking about.. as if I didn't know what I was thinking about

I had asked what was significance of me developing infatuations last year with two men (M and J) and now this year with two men (M and J again!) the Ms actually have the same name, but Js are different. The coincidence of names seems significant to me so I cast for it and 20 > 48 was the result. I feel that it is echoing the process I am going through - that of figuring out what I like and what is right for me and being able to tell this, but I also feel like it's saying the names are a coincidence (even though I tend not to believe in coincidences) I still feel like there is some sort of lesson there, the patterns, when they repeat, isn't it because we haven't assimilated some message from Universe?

Anyway, do you agree that the Yi seems to be saying there is no other significance than me, contemplating what is right for me and what isn't?

I do not necessarily feel that H20 and the lines mean that your contemplating should preclude seeing a significant pattern in the names repeating. I do not tend to believe in mere coincidence either. which lines changed, to get H48?----

I recall reading a book years ago, entitled "There Are No Accidents" , in which a therapist spoke of the stories of his patients, and their repeating patterns. One woman had a plethora of Debbies as friends, bosses, cousins, etc.

 

[precision grace]

which lines changed, to get H48?----

I put it in the title: 20.2.3.6 > 48

 

[foxx777]

I put it in the title: 20.2.3.6 > 48

Oh, sorry, did not see it.

I still do not think that your seeing significance in the repetition of names is negated by the lines or hexagrams.

48, the well, speaks ofthe town changing, but the well being inexhaustible---this could mean that although the surfaces changes, things are drawn from the well of the past. Repetition.

Contemplating in a youthful fashion, or with a narrow view (line 2) [ ok for a common person, for the superior man, disgrace] could mean that those who view only coincidences, and attribute no meaning in patterns, are wrongly contemplating. Just my take.

 

[precision grace]

thank you for your interpretation foxx777. I had seen the line 2 as someone looking for meaning in too narrow a space (i.e. in coincidence of names being same/similar) when it should be sought in a wider context. I am sure there is a meaning in the pattern, but I am not sure the names themselves are a part of that. However, if the reading suggests otherwise, I would be interested to learn how?

 

[foxx777]

thank you for your interpretation foxx777. I had seen the line 2 as someone looking for meaning in too narrow a space (i.e. in coincidence of names being same/similar) when it should be sought in a wider context. I am sure there is a meaning in the pattern, but I am not sure the names themselves are a part of that. However, if the reading suggests otherwise, I would be interested to learn how?

Well, just my own interpretation: 20.2:

It could be that to the narrow or reductionist mind, accidents, coincidences, are just that: They carry no meaning.

The I Ching MAY POSSIBLY be hinting, in this case, that for the person who lives on the surface, without thought, this is OK. But for the deeper person, who sees the inter-connectedness of things, one should glean meaning: If not from the repetition of names, then from what meaning is behind those people who bear the names. I think the lines can convey different meanings, according to context of the consultation. But this is not a wholly different meaning of the line: It distinguishes between 2 types of observance. The Jungian view would find meaning; the reductionist view would not.ETA: working from memory, I confused lines 1 and line 2 of 20. I was actually thinking of line 1, "Boy-like observance"--- So line 2 is peeping through the crack of a door, limited observance. "Furthering for the perseverance of a woman, for a man, a disgrace"--- I still believe the above analysis could still be applied. It is a juxtaposition of two ways of observing. But it is your own intuition which counts here.

 

[precision grace]

thanks for confusing me further foxx! My intuition thought there was a meaning which is why I wanted to double check with casting Yi and then getting the result made me think that there wasn't one. Now you say that there is. If there is a meaning, do you think lines further point to what that might be> to me 20.3 would speak of 'trial runs' and the 20.6 (>8) suggests the eventual choice is made by having studied closely all the previously discarded options.


I searched for this combo here but couldn't find anything. It doesn't look like a common hex combo to receive and I have a feeling it's important which is why I've posted it here instead of just accepting my own (limited) interpretation.

 

[foxx777]

thanks for confusing me further foxx! My intuition thought there was a meaning which is why I wanted to double check with casting Yi and then getting the result made me think that there wasn't one. Now you say that there is. If there is a meaning, do you think lines further point to what that might be> to me 20.3 would speak of 'trial runs' and the 20.6 (>8) suggests the eventual choice is made by having studied closely all the previously discarded options.


I searched for this combo here but couldn't find anything. It doesn't look like a common hex combo to receive and I have a feeling it's important which is why I've posted it here instead of just accepting my own (limited) interpretation.

sorry ---but yes, I do, I think that you are sharp enough to understand that it is not the names repeating which carries the meaning, but that this synchronicity is cipher, sign, symbol, as it were, of the meaning of past patterns resurfacing.

Your task in observing these, in contemplating them, is to try out options, come to understand which are profound and which are dross to be discarded, and then to "fall into no error" (line 6) as to the final choice....