Conflicting Changing Lines

[pembs]

Hi All

I have often found that information given by the I Ching can sometimes be quite confusing when the changing lines appear to be delivering conflicting information.

For example, I recently received Hexagram 54 (in answer to a relationship question) with changing lines 5 and 6. This is the second time I have received this. I am finding it difficult to grasp what the I Ching is trying to tell me as line 5 suggests success and line 6 suggests that the situation is hopeless!

Your views would be very greatly appreciated - as ever!

Thanks in advance . . .

Best Regards
Claire

 

[mrmorrow]

Hi
Could be a timing issue.It seems as some of the moving lines refer to a hasty
or late marriage-3 and 4 ;not in your case here. 5 seems positive but 6 looks like
a marriage ofconveniance.Perhaps it refers to something lacking depth which will
eventually grow too something more permanent.

 

[willowfox]

Line 5 speaks cooperating with your partner for the greater good of the relationship, it is warning you not to try and be dominate or pushy, follow your partner's lead and all will be well between you.

Line 6 speaks of being totally committed to one another, that the relationship is not just an empty game that you can play when you feel like it, if you want a strong relationship then devote yourself to it.

 

[Trojina]

Or don't focus on conflicting lines look at sentence the primary and secondary hexagram make, in this case 54 to hex 10 could be be careful (10) you are in a subordinate role (54) watch your step (10) you don'thave much say in this (54)

 

[pembs]

Thanks so much all of you.

Willowfox - your interpretation matches my own perfectly!

Mrmorrow - I have received changing lines 1-4 at some point during the last couple of weeks as well so what do you make of this!

Trojan - thanks - I will keep my wits about me!

Best WIshes
Claire

 

[mrmorrow]

line four refers too a late marriage-The lady is in no hurry to commit.
Line 1 -she may feel perhaps in a inferior position too you.Could the relationship be
not at a stage where marriage is to be considered yet.

 

[pembs]

Thanks MrMorrow for your response.
My situation is quite a complicated one actually . . . . we ARE actually already married but separated about a year ago. We both still have very strong feelings for each other but we split without discussing it properly in a fit of rage with loads of problems.

I filed for divorce 4 months ago and we haven't spoken since.

I have received loads of Hex 19 recently in answer to questions about a possible reconciliation (which Willowfox kindly helped me with) but Hex 54 has also cropped up quite a bit recently.

Yesterday I asked "is this time of isolation preparing a possible reconciliation for us?" and received Hex 18 with lines 2, 4 nd 5 changing to Hex 33. I get Hex 33 A LOT as the main primary Hexagram actually. I interpreted this as meaning the relationship is damaged and needs to be worked on in order use it again and perhaps 33 relates to a withdrawal period whilst working on the damage done?

I then asked "How can I deal with the corruption that has taken place and try to put things right between us?" Ironically I received Hex 48 with lines changing 1, 2 and 4 changing to Hex 49. I took this to mean that with radical change things could be improved?

I then asked "Is it possible and withi my reach to improve my relationship with x?" and received Hex 48 - again (I was amazed!) with changing lines 2 and 4 changing to Hex 31. I took this to mean that things could indeed improve providing that he was willing to co-operate.

I consulted the I Ching a few more times and finally ended with the question "Will I get another chance with x?" and received Hex 42 unchanging.

I would be grateful for thoughts from all of you.

Thanks!

Claire

 

[mrmorrow]

Well looks like it points to repairing the situation.This will take time and imediate results are not to be expected.Do you feel you married too young.I think the ching is telling you to retreat and repair.Maybe the future will bring you a more balanced situation.But for now maybe its damage limitation.

 

[pembs]

Thanks Mrmorrow - that's kinda what I thought!
No - didn't marry too young - this is my third marriage!! I think I finally realise that I'm not really cut out for marriage!
Thanks again for your valuable input. . .
Best Wishes
Claire

 

[willowfox]

I asked "is this time of isolation preparing a possible reconciliation for us?" and received Hex 18 with lines 2, 4, 5 changing to Hex 33.

The isolation that you are going through is doing absolutely nothing towards achieving any reconciliation in actual fact it shows this whole episode ending in a retreat, or in modern terms a divorce.

 

[willowfox]

"How can I deal with the corruption that has taken place and try to put things right between us?" Ironically I received Hex 48 with lines changing 1, 2 and 4 changing to Hex 49

All 3 lines indicate that there is nothing that you can do.

"Will I get another chance with x?" and received Hex 42 unchanging.

The potential is there but the union will be brief.

 

[pembs]

Do you really think so Willowfox? Even with the constant hex 19 that consistently keeps occurring and also a lot of changing lines in various hexagrams which keep telling me not to pursue what has been lost but instead to wait and it will return by itself?

After we separated my husband went really down hill to the extreme and unfortunately now has many problems - including dabbling in drugs and he has completely changed. He has accused me of ruining his life and has told me in the past that despite his strong feelings for me |(and they WERE very strong) he could not allow himself to return to his marriage due to his 'self preservation'. He has also said that he is terrified of me emotionally because I have hurt him so much in the past. I tried to reopen communciation between us but when he continued to keep his distance which is why I eventually resorted to filing for divorce. He is a wonderful human being and despite being 15 years my junior, was always encredibly mature in so many ways. He does however have many problems now which is why I thought that perhaps once he had sorted himself out we could then sit down and talk.

The I Ching readings I have received over the last year have always beein spot on but sometimes they are difficult to interpret as they could often have so many meanings.

Best Wishes
Claire

 

[willowfox]

Well, Hex 42 says there is a potential for a reunion but the get together won't last long.

But if you study Hex 19 it also says that after the initial success there will be problems not long after.

So,return is possible but not the staying part.

 

[pembs]

Thanks Willowfox - I really appreciate your thoughts as whenever I read your interpretations for other people on this community site I always seem to relate to your individual style of interpretation.

With regard to hex 33 - I always saw this as pulling out temporarily as part of a strategic plan as opposed to withdrawing completely?

Prior to starting divorce proceedings last year I asked the I Ching if this was something I should consider - I can't remember the hexagram I received but I do remember that the changing line indicated that I should do nothing extreme and that I should not act at all. Unfortunately I ignored this advice and carried on anyway! Unfortunately I do have a tendency to bulldoze on - usually to make a point - which is why I probably receive hex 34 so often!!

I think it maybe time to move on from this but I really don't feel is completely finished. I think that the main obstacle blocking communication (we no longer live in the same area so would never meet accidentally) is his chosen lifestyle, as I mentioned earlier. Maybe I am just living in hope that we can, one day, resolve it all. I did ask last week, |"how does x feel about us being apart?" and received hex 40 with no changing lines. I took this to mean that he is embracing his new found freedom. I also asked |"how does he feel about the prospect of us being together?" and received hex 40 (again!) with loine 3 changing to 32. I took this to mean that if we reunited it would come at a price (like giving up his freedom) and that he would get hurt in the end.

Its hard to let go when I get so many other 'positive' hexagrams which seem to point at a possible reconciliation and advice to 'wait and it will return by itself'!

Best Wishes
Claire

 

[willowfox]

With regard to hex 33 - I always saw this as pulling out temporarily as part of a strategic plan as opposed to withdrawing completely?

Hex 33 is like a battle one side retreats, the other side advances, the first lays traps to halt the advancing troops, bog them down in a trap, then the retreating side counter attacks and is usually victorious.

But your situation is different, you are retreating out of his life but doing it from a position of strength, you are using the law to put an end to the marriage problem, then it is impossible for him to attack you legally if he was so minded.
If you read the image, it says, as applied to your situation, you do not hate this man but you no longer want to be involved in anyway with him.

 

[pembs]

Thanks for your help Willowfox - I think my interpretation of hex 33 has been quite distorted. You have made it all much clearer.

Best Wishes
Claire