Conflicting Hexagrams?

[bruce_g]

How many delusions have I constructed from misconstruing Yi's answers? Let me count the ways...

 

[esolo]

Yes, it was a delusion of your own making...you misconstrued the answers. The Yi wasn't steering you wrong or playing to your hopes and fantasies.

 

[Sparhawk]

How many delusions have I constructed from misconstruing Yi's answers? Let me count the ways...

Hey, if you let me use yours, when you run out of fingers to count, I'll let you borrow mine. I need to count those myself...

L

 

[mudpie]

Is it just me, or has anybody else noticed the absence of a very important person from this discussion?

either he got scared off or he is busy leading his full life which got fuller after he sacrificed his delusion

 

[willowfox]

Surely, hex 41.6 is about something that is much bigger than an ex relationship, isn't this about how he can benefit others, which I would presume to be coming from his desire to become a doctor. It is about what he can do for the public good and not about private ex love affairs. I think this is telling him quite openly to follow his ambitions to become a doctor and therefore be of service to his community, and to stop chasing after the girl Stacey.

 

[cssslw]

Hi, Everyone:
Thank you all very much for your imput. I want to be clear that I respect Stacey's wishes. I'm leading my own fine life, and I'm not trying to contact her. I occassionally pass by her at the hospital. I smile and walk past. She knows how I feel about her. I don't need to remind her. If she wishes to, she knows how to contact me. I love her enough to respect her freedom of choice. I date other women because I need to enjoy my life. However, I will check in with I Ching every now and then to see what's up with Stace'. However, I suppose hearing from Stace' directly will be the best indicator of all, wouldn't it?

Chruistopher

 

[cssslw]

Hi, Again:
I appreciate the forum's intelligent concern about what could misunderstood as obsessive. If you do not contact a person, its rather difficult to "stalk" a person. I think a lot about Stace', because we had a very intense three year relationship. I also think a lot about the otther aspects of my life: my friends, family, patients, the women I'm currently seeing, and upcoming medical school. I have my situation with Stace' in a healthy perspective. I just miss her, though few who know me could tell, as I rarely mention her. This forum is therapeutic for me, thus I express my feeling more readily.

Christopher

 

[cssslw]

Hi:
Oh, and the reason I hadn't been involved in the discussion for a bit, is because I find its far easier for me to listen if my mouth is closed. I'm very appreciative of everyone's comments. I love that this forum tells it like it sees it, even if its not neccessarily what I wish to hear. This is not unlike how a physician must, at times, relate to his/her patients.

 

[bruce_g]

Hi Christopher,

I'll say this much, you certainly have the patience and even temperament of a physician.

The reading that sticks in my mind, out of the many, is 41.6. Hard to put into words, but it's like, we have the most to give when we successfully empty all we've gathered, or "the value of a bowl is its emptiness" sort of thing. I think if you're just open and honest in the way you approach her (19), you can't go wrong. You'll find all the answers to these questions you've been asking of the Yi.

 

[RindaR]

:bows: Agrees...

Rinda

 

[Trojina]

Armed with the Yi I managed to convince myself 'x' was as obsessed with me as i was with him and it was just a matter of waiting etc etc.

I don't know about this. For example, as you can see in that thread I started using Jesed's questions..I have two different people I've been asking about. Both relationships are important to me, so important that I've given in to asking the Yi about them way too many times. With one person I continue to get negative answers even though I would desperately like to see a positive answer there. No matter how much I ask the answer is always the same. For example, I just sent another email in an attempt to rectify the situation. I asked what his response was going to be and I got 14.1, "have no commerce with trouble". Should I get exited because it's hexgram 14? I don't think so, not given that moving line. He is obviously not going to respond. So, I don't see how I could convince myself that there's any hope, not with those answers. So, if someone does that it has to be a case of simply refusing to correctly interpret the answer.

You seem to have misunderstood my point. I was not saying the Yi misdirects us, but that if we throw over and over obsessively it all gets a bit jumbled and we can start to focus on the bits we like and so convince ourselves something is so.

So in other words the point I was making is the point you make in your last line, underlined. except perhaps not so much conscious refusal but a not really wanting to know or see the truth because they can't deal with it at the time - which sometimes perhaps is a useful strategy to ease emotional pain temporarily at least - we can't always deal with the whole truth all at one go.

We do indeed refuse to correctly interpret answers sometimes if we are heavily involved with something and more often probably when we start using the Yi. I would say it happens here on a pretty regular basis, always has done with relationship questions and probably always will do

BTW Lightangel yeah I know all the lines off by heart probably cos I was an obsessive chinger in my youth

 

[cssslw]

Bruce:
Thank you for your kind words.
Christopher

 

[pakua]

"Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired."
--Robert Frost

 

[dobro p]

Christopher - thanks for weighing in. I feel like it cleared a lot up.

Pakua - that Robert Frost quote is clever wordwork, but wrong.

 

[yong]

Hi, Everyone:
Thank you all very much for your imput. I want to be clear that I respect Stacey's wishes. I'm leading my own fine life, and I'm not trying to contact her. I occassionally pass by her at the hospital. I smile and walk past. She knows how I feel about her. I don't need to remind her. If she wishes to, she knows how to contact me. I love her enough to respect her freedom of choice. I date other women because I need to enjoy my life.

41.6 ... the distillations of true love ...

I will check in with I Ching every now and then to see what's up with Stace'. However, I suppose hearing from Stace' directly will be the best indicator of all, wouldn't it?

19.0

 

[esolo]

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You seem to have misunderstood my point. I was not saying the Yi misdirects us, but that if we throw over and over obsessively it all gets a bit jumbled and we can start to focus on the bits we like and so convince ourselves something is so.

I did misunderstand you and yes, I agree with you about the Yi. We misdirect ourselves because we desperately want to see something that just isn't there. I like to think that I don't get involved in misinterpreting, but I have done the obsessive thing. The problem was that I never got the answer I wanted

 

[beithe]

Hmm I wonder if people do ask tarot cards the same question over and over. I somehow don't think so, not to the same extent.

I used to but they just gave me the same answers again and again. And I never found that they told me what I wanted to hear. At any rate I use Tarot more as an inner development tool now. All any divination process shows is pathways it is always up to us which road we decide to trot down.