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mira

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What are his feelings for me, is he genuine? As he says? It never occured me to ask and the answer I got was 62 alone. This is the warning for the bird to not fly too high.
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papa_jack

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Hi Mira,

Just take one moment at a time, things can change.
just do not put the cart before the horse.

Your Humble Servant,
Papa Jack
 
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Thank you Papa Jack. Your words bring great comfort. I am in such a bleak moment of life.

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Yes, what Papa Jack said. What Yly2pg1 asked, too.

I would think that he means exactly what he says - but not more than he says.
 

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many people feel that when a situation shows no signs of changing it is because the situation is waiting for the person in it to change it. It is the motionless things that we can grasp and move however we wish to move them.
 
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He says his heart cries when he thinks of me, that people say you should only have one love in this life and he is very lucky because he has found his love. However, someone wrote a letter warning me. I broke it off because of what this person told me. I wondered if I should be hurt, because of all the confusion this love has caused, but in my heart, i can only love him for who he is. Then he sent me more messages of love. So I decided to consult the oracle. After reading the answers here, and seeing other posts, i felt the sadness, and then I got a clearer head about life. I asked one more question what I should do about him, and got a 23, alone. I am now accepting this, as there is nothing to do now anyway. Perhaps someday we can be together. But life is so uncertain. Even in another life the person you love will not be who they are now, and now is the only time to love them as they are. So this is lost, but I do not understand how to build a fence for my feelings. But my actions it seems I must build a fence for.
 

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Mira,

The sorrow we feel because we lose a love relationship is normal. Look at this way, the greater your love the greater the hurt. So you need love, we all need love, and the sorrow after, hindsight, is just the part that goes hand in hand with love.
As for building up your fences, I think it is said "It is better to have loved and lost, then to not have love at all".

It's painful but I promise that it will get better.

Your humble servant,
Papa Jack
 

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Would you please, somebody, anyone close to Aussie, take Chris' temperature. He must be running a fever: two messages to this thread with only two and three lines in them... Uh-oh, he may also be playing crouching tiger and be about to take a big leap...
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PS: the fact that most of what you expose here flies over my head doesn't mean I don't like you, Chris. In the meantime I'll elbow your ribs, once in a while... lol
 

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;-)

The first post covered seeking a more 'personal' perspective on the situation - and so the use of generic questions rather than coin toss etc.

The second post covered the fact that the meaning of 23 can be 'misinterpreted' given the Wilhelm set of labels - it appears as negative but is in fact both positive and negative - depends on context ;-) Thus the focus on housekeeping, making sure all is 'tidy' or in need of being 'tidy', promotion of one's belief etc is positive. The focus on being the last bastion of structure prior to sinking into darkness is negative ;-) (and so to AVOID that slide one needs to housekeep ;-))
 

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BTW - the term I usually use for 23 is pruning - we cut back to the essentials, get rid of all the 'rubbish' that can accumulate as local dynamics adds local colourings that can swamp the essentials, hide them etc.

The opposite is 43 - seeding aka 'spreading the word'.

The skeletal form of 23 is described by 24 - a focus on returning to the 'true' faith/belief/path etc.
 
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The slang term I use on myself when getting 23 is "lose it". Yep, prune the rubbish and get on with it.

Mira, a small word of encouragement: Birds nest in branches, not in the sky. Take care of your own and let him come and flush you out. More fun that way for both.
 
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mira

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Thank you Candid. Your words bring succor. I will take care of my own, as you suggest. I feel clear headed again, and will be alright unless he starts sending messages again. That is too much to bear, so I hope he stops till the time is right.

Chris, in the context of the question, I interpreted 23 to mean that the relationship is not serving either one of us right now. I asked how he will get on and one of his lines was 26 line 6, so the Yi Jing suggests he will be just fine. The true faith, belief, I believe this is what is at stake here.

Brian, your words are quite beautiful, I cannot help but think about what you wrote: "The motionless things we can grasp". To even grasp, not so much to fashion what I want, but just to relax, transcend. I feel very fortunate to have read your response to the question of non moving hexagram.

Hilary, thank you as well. I was astounded at your words. Because it almost means he loves me as he says, which perhaps is too much. I thought today that love is difficult, for me to interpret with the YiJing. How some situations make no sense at all. When my feelings are one way, and reality is the other.

Thank you all for giving help here, it was needed. I have a much clearer head, and then understood for how long I have been struggling with how I will do things, how I will accomplish, how will I, how will I. This has been an unconscious niggling struggle, for years. Knowledge comes in the moment, it is awakened from a larger mind than the one I write this post with. So I merely have to walk some steps, and everything and he will be alright.

Mira
 
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Mira, when I get an unchanging hexagram in a dynamic situation, I sometimes look to Wilhelm's ruling line. The ruling line in 62 is the prince who shoots a target in the cave. Perhaps this gives a clue to your situation.
 
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mira

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Candid, you are a psychic genius. In my other reading too. Ever since you gave me those words I have let go of so many of the concerns I had. Now your words above, March 15 1:38 am, are coming true! He is coming, on his own, to me. It will take time, but I must admit, my heart is flying. Is love a big trouble? What have I gotten myself into!
 
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I am? Cool! But it?s not that I?m a psychic or a genius, Mira. I?ve just learned a little about human nature with help from the good ole I Ching, and the friends who help me to expand that understanding. Very glad things are looking up you.
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