...life can be translucent

Menu

Dad's move?

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,890
Reaction score
3,174
I'd like to ask a question but I am not sure how to phrase it. My father and his wife Joan are signed up to move into a senior residence. They have been on the waiting list for a year but now that a room has finally became available my dad doesn't want to go. I do not live close by so I don't know all the ins and outs but the way I see it is that..
1) Joan put a great deal of time and effort into finding a good place for them and Dad barely participated in the search. Dad should move because he's known for over a year this was the plan and it's not right to now act as though this is a big surprise. Furthermore they NEED to move. Dad is 90. They live on the side of a hill and their house has 100 steps to the front door, they have both had falls and broken bones, Joan doesn't want to cook anymore etc.
2) On the other hand, I can understand from an astrological point of view why energies are stalled.. Dad is a Capricorn and Saturn has been retrograde this past several months indicating a time of backing up from making commitments. Further, Mercury is retrograde until the first of June. So perhaps it really has been for the best they not have moved already. But what about now? Saturn has turned direct this last weekend so it's time to start moving ahead, but in what direction?

Okay, having thought this through I now am going to ask the I Ching, "Where should they go from here, where is the path opening up for them now?" I am not in a position to advise them but I would like to understand what their best direction is so I can recognize what is evolving and thus be able to encourage the flow.

I'll be right back..
 
Last edited:

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,890
Reaction score
3,174
Where should they go from here?

40.1.3 > 34.

Hmm...I wonder if this is saying Dad has issues with the idea of moving in with a whole new group of people?

Any ideas most appreciated!
Rosada
 

my_key

visitor
Joined
Mar 22, 1971
Messages
2,892
Reaction score
1,334
Where should they go from here?

40.1.3 > 34.

Hmm...I wonder if this is saying Dad has issues with the idea of moving in with a whole new group of people?

Any ideas most appreciated!
Rosada

Hey Rosada

This must be a tough situation for you to come to terms with. Older parents can be difficult at the best of times and being as far away as you are and the safety issues associated with precarious location of their house are real issues for you to contend with.

Here's some cud for you.

40 - The noble one pardons transgressions and is lenient towards crimes
40.1 - Nothing to worry about, all is as it should be for everyone concerned.
40.3 - Making a big issue of all this will bring in the robbers.
34 - The noble one will not tread a path without ritual.

Perhaps all of what is transpiring is a ritual being played out, and a bit of loosening of things at both ends of the inner world.

How does that tie in with what you have learnt from your astrological insights?

Mike
 

rodaki

visitor
Joined
Jun 26, 2008
Messages
2,176
Reaction score
78
another twopence in the bag . .

40/34: let go of extra force (possibly both towards and against the moving issue . . )

40.1" . . few words are needed . . One recuperates in peace" :the time has come for your father and his wife to make the move they have been preparing

40.3 " . .a man who has come out of needy circumstances in to comfort and freedom from want. If now, in the manner of an upstart, he tries to take his ease in comfortable surroundings that do not suit his nature, he thereby attracts robbers":
In a time of ease one should not let a minor thing to take over (your father's sudden turn of will, or, his wife's fatigue and possible anticipation for the next move . . in general, noone should let their worries rob them of their better judgement). Their present lodgings may feel known and cosy but they do not suit their nature anymore

perhaps a calm, rational discussion about pros and cons (Capricorns are often very much about measuring steps, no?) can release the tensions caused by waiting and/or resisting the move . .

twopence over :rolleyes:

hope this resolves itself as naturally as clouds turn into rain :)
 

fkegan

(deceased)
Joined
Aug 31, 2007
Messages
2,052
Reaction score
41
Hi Rosada,

Perhaps a simpler view of your Yi Oracle would be useful. Hex 40.1,3 from the Wilhelm Judgment would speak about finishing up pressing tasks and loose ends and then moving on to normal living. Line 1 emphasizes this process. Line 3 says to let go of baggage outgrown. Resultant 34 shows the 4 Yang lines moving forward as a unit with lots of open space to move into.

Seems a clear response from the Oracle to your question, though I don't see how that has anything to do with the other folks in his new setting; rather it is all about letting go of attachments to the current arrangements.

Frank
 

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,890
Reaction score
3,174
Thank you all for walking me through this!
Your insight, Mike that the I Ching is encouraging me that I needn't be worried is a great help. Treading the path with ritual makes me think they should have a good-bye party before leaving. BTW, I note that Joan is a Gemini and that Mercury is retrograde until June so maybe that's when they will finally be in 34 alignment to move forward.
Rodaki - I think you nailed it seeing 40.3 as meaning their current place is no longer suitable!
Frank - Yep, letting go of stuff is the big issue, and not that the place they are thinking of going to is wrong. Perhaps when he gets rid of the old stuff, he will then see that the new place is just right.

My own further thoughts..
40.1
Without blame.
40.3
If a man carries a burden on his back
And nevertheless rides in a carriage,
He thereby encourages robbers to draw near.
Perseverance leads to humiliation.

It does indeed seem to say all is in divine order and will evolve as it should. I'm seeing now that 40 Deliverance can be leaving where they are now and 40.1 seems to say Dad's resistance to the move will be overcome and that the place Joan has selected is indeed a good choice.
I see 40.3 can be read as emphasizing the monumental chore of sorting through what to take and the actual move with a special note that the big stumbling block is they really have to get rid of things, it's not appropriate to rent a bunch of storage units - as Dad has been talking of doing - just to hang on to old stuff.
That's not really the true meaning of the line, but I think that way of interpreting it fits. Anyway I was afraid it meant not fitting in with the new group of people but I see now that needn't be the case. Curiously, after posting the question I learned that the senior residence I had thought might be of interest to them up here where I live would not be suitable because it is a government HUD project which only is available to lower income groups. Knowing that the place I thought might be suitable up here is not has freed me up to be supportive of where Joan is intending they should go.

34.
The superior man does not tread on paths
That do not accord with established order.

Boy, that sounds very Capricorn doesn't it? Again I think this is confirmation that the place they already have in mind is indeed the right place for them - or at least that it is their responsibility and not mine to figure it out!

Thank you all for your insights.
Rosada
 
Last edited:
M

meng

Guest
It does indeed seem to say all is in divine order and will evolve as it should. I'm seeing now that 40 Deliverance can be leaving where they are now and 40.1 seems to say Dad's resistance to the move will be overcome and that the place Joan has selected is indeed a good choice.

Hi Rosada,

Agreeing with what's already been said.

It's a tough thing, coming to terms with ones inevitable mortality. I mean, it's easy to say wise things about it when it's not you that has to cut loose of your life's gatherings and lifestyle, and resign to inescapable loss of independence. Especially proud people could find it difficult.

I think what needs to be communicated to your Dad is: Trying to hold onto the life he knew will rob him of the joy he still can have. To have it, he must let it go.
 

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,890
Reaction score
3,174
Thank you, Meng. Yeah, major sense of let go of the past to welcome the new...

And now update!!!

If you have also checked in on the Memorizing threads you will have read that as I was posting this today I got the call from my son that he and his wife are at the hospital awaiting the birth of my first grandchild!!! The fact that my Dad was supposed to be moving this month and the baby was due next month and now this has all been turned around seems to be significant. Like, we wouldn't want to have him moving and the baby coming all on the same day. To do things in 34. Proper Order perhaps Dad has intuitively felt to just stay put till this new life comes to the planet. When baby Jaxon has arrived safe and sound perhaps then Dad will get the sense of where the new doors are opening for him and be able to know how to proceed.

We shall see:)
 

rodaki

visitor
Joined
Jun 26, 2008
Messages
2,176
Reaction score
78
great news Rosada! :hug:

all the best for your family -looks like the knots are loosening up bit by bit :)
 

fkegan

(deceased)
Joined
Aug 31, 2007
Messages
2,052
Reaction score
41
Hi Rosada,
I find myself a bit confused :confused:

Is there a massive time crunch that you felt your Dad needed to move today? How does the change from the grandchild expected next month or today make a big difference?

The oracle you note, hex 40.1,3 when taken as a whole can easily apply as much to you and your worries about your Dad, telling you to relax, let him let go of his baggage and enjoy riding in his carriage as a Gentleman and the whole family being together as a unit in the process of moving on to this new home and next step.

Frank :)
 

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,890
Reaction score
3,174
Hi Frank,
There's been this weird timing thing going on in the family where everybody has had some major issue all coming to a head in June, leaving me like a deer caught in the headlights not knowing how to plan or where I'm supposed to be - helping with the birth? Helping with the move? Or helping with some of the other dramas I haven't even mentioned. So I do agree the IChing has given special guidance here to me not to stress about it.
Wish the kids would call and tell me how things are going. Haven't heard and it's been nearly two hours... where are my bachflowers? Time for a little Impatiens..LOL!
r.
 
M

maremaria

Guest
Hi Rosada,

Hope everything goes well with the baby. Let us know. :)

Maria
 

Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom

Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).

Top