Deriving a hexagram from a trigram

[getojack]

Just wondering if anyone has tried this and, if so, what was your experience of the accuracy or inaccuracy of it...

Throw the coins three times to get a trigram... this would be the lower trigram. Then, instead of throwing the coins 3 more times, derive the upper trigram from the changing lines in the lower trigram.

Anyone?

 

[hilary]

No - this had never occurred to me. Interesting idea.

Hm... what would it imply to create a hexagram this way? If the outside's all a product of the inside, does it mean that the only important influences and choices are 'in here', and they shape the world? A 'create your own reality' kind of casting?

 

[Trojina]

Just wondering if anyone has tried this and, if so, what was your experience of the accuracy or inaccuracy of it...

Throw the coins three times to get a trigram... this would be the lower trigram. Then, instead of throwing the coins 3 more times, derive the upper trigram from the changing lines in the lower trigram.

Anyone?

What if there aren't any changing lines in the lower trigram ? Even if there are one or two I can't see how you make the upper trigram out of them ? Truly baffled Jack Can you explain how you do it, give an example ?

 

[Sparhawk]

What if there aren't any changing lines in the lower trigram ? Even if there are one or two I can't see how you make the upper trigram out of them ? Truly baffled Jack Can you explain how you do it, give an example ?

My guess is that you would repeat the bottom trigram... Remember what I mentioned to you the other day about creating a second hexagram out of a static one?

 

[Trojina]

My guess is that you would repeat the bottom trigram... Remember what I mentioned to you the other day about creating a second hexagram out of a static one?

Good thinking batman

 

[frank_r]

I know this technique where a hexagram is the bridge between two trigrams. But I didn't know this one. But with what kind of question do you use this technique.

 

[martin]

I guess the idea is to take the orginal trigram and put the changed trigram on top of that?
For example, if you throw the fire trigram with line 1 changing, the hexagram is fire + mountain (change line 1 of fire) on top, hexagram 22.

I tried this once but didn't really test it in divination, so I don't know if it works. But if you tell the Yi that you will do it this way from now on it might very well work, the Yi is very flexible and will probably adapt
It was based on the idea of upward development in hexagrams: the lower trigram changes into the top trigram.

 

[getojack]

What if there aren't any changing lines in the lower trigram ? Even if there are one or two I can't see how you make the upper trigram out of them ? Truly baffled Jack Can you explain how you do it, give an example ?

hey troj, sorry... looking back on my post, i see it may have been a bit unclear... as martin has guessed, i was thinking along the following lines....

I guess the idea is to take the orginal trigram and put the changed trigram on top of that?
For example, if you throw the fire trigram with line 1 changing, the hexagram is fire + mountain (change line 1 of fire) on top, hexagram 22.

...so actually you would derive the upper trigram from all 3 lines in the lower, but if they are unchanging, they would just stay unchanging... i hope that's clear now.

Good thinking batman

I know this technique where a hexagram is the bridge between two trigrams. But I didn't know this one. But with what kind of question do you use this technique.

i don't know, frank... but i suppose it could be used with any question. sure, why not?

Hm... what would it imply to create a hexagram this way? If the outside's all a product of the inside, does it mean that the only important influences and choices are 'in here', and they shape the world? A 'create your own reality' kind of casting?

yeah, i like that...

btw, it's good to be back in this crazy clarity cast of characters...

 

[Trojina]

Its good to have you back !