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Divided between options: 50.3.4 > 4 and 25.3.4> 37

Ana Maria

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Hello community!

I have done 2 readings on the same subject: it's a piece of work I did in poetry and I decided to send it for publication in a collab magazine. it's ran by a couple of folks that I've worked with in the past but who never supported me that much, TBH. In hindsight, they didn't see the potential and didn't pay attention to my work maybe coz I'm just starting. There's been no feedback whatsoever and I feel this might be how things play out - long, delayed, etc.
I asked: what's the deal with this situation? Got 50.3.4. > 4. Let's call this one option A.
I then asked: if I kindly step back and send my poems elsewhere, what would be the outcome? I was thinking of a place that is run by younger people whom I don't know at all really. I got 25.3.4 > 37. This is option B.
Wonder if the moving lines in similar positions confirm that I'm leaving my cocoon and entering the world. But which option is best as a course of action?
My feeling is that A means my work might go unnoticed/uneaten - and then spoiled - bc I youthfully sent it there? Or I need to wait patiently and see what happens bc it'll rain in the end?
My interpretation of B is a bit more confused: be humble and act innocently, pull out from A and send it to B instead and by doing this I'll find "home" for my work (family as in like minded people)?

It's one of those things that is super personal and at the same time something that bugs me, professionally speaking.

Any thoughts? TY!
 

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A couple of things come to mind:

1. Does the place you submitted to, or the places you want to submit to, have dual submission policies? Why would it be spoiled?
2. What do you think their points of view will be? It sounds as if you think this is about who you know, not about how good the work is? (I'm not trying to sound harsh. 50.3, to me, suggests not seeing the others's point of view as valid. So it's either your own work, or their work, that's in doubt?)
3. "To act innocently" implies, to me, that you think you're not being innocent. I think 15, Integrity is a related hexagram. Are you acting from the source with integrity?
 
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A couple of things come to mind:

1. Does the place you submitted to, or the places you want to submit to, have dual submission policies? Why would it be spoiled?
2. What do you think their points of view will be? It sounds as if you think this is about who you know, not about how good the work is? (I'm not trying to sound harsh. 50.3, to me, suggests not seeing the others's point of view as valid. So it's either your own work, or their work, that's in doubt?)
3. "To act innocently" implies, to me, that you think you're not being innocent. I think 15, Integrity is a related hexagram. Are you acting from the source with integrity?
Adding: it's not uncommon to not get feedback. Editors have piles of submissions to read. It's common not to get feedback, unless it's explicitly promised.
 

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A couple of things come to mind:

1. Does the place you submitted to, or the places you want to submit to, have dual submission policies? Why would it be spoiled?
2. What do you think their points of view will be? It sounds as if you think this is about who you know, not about how good the work is? (I'm not trying to sound harsh. 50.3, to me, suggests not seeing the others's point of view as valid. So it's either your own work, or their work, that's in doubt?)
3. "To act innocently" implies, to me, that you think you're not being innocent. I think 15, Integrity is a related hexagram. Are you acting from the source with integrity?
Thanks a lot ZP!
These are really good questions.

The answer is no, no dual policies ; it’s either / or, which is why I mentioned “pulling out” and then sending the work elsewhere.

The imaged of “spoiled” is a direct reference to the meal that is spoiled and uneaten in 50.4 - I was using the imagery of the hex. Both here and in the interpretation I made of staying humble and “acting innocently” or moderately that is indicated by hex 25. Nothing to be read in between those lines as far as I’m concerned.

Yes, there might be a hidden theme of thinking too much about others’ opinions and not enough about the quality of my work. I’m not sure that such imbalance is implied in these readings; it might, though, please correct me if wrong.

My anxiety projected into the question is related to word of mouth (about ongoing delays and hiccups with Option A) and to my own personal insecurities in relation to that particular group of people (more experienced, powerful and previous acquaintances so to speak).
so I’m not the only one concerned about their MO and how they have been slow at handling work from other young talents, who are the ones that normally need more / faster input. I say this as a tacit convention in my area, despite all the normal delays that are associated with creative writing and editorial feedback (as you added here).

Any thoughts on which option might work best? With less hassle? And what these lines mean in my particular situation?

Thanks :zen:
 

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Hello !
My hypothesis is to choose - for now - option B because the princes of option A do not react and apparently they are very wrong !
But according to line 50.3, in the end comes fortune, so they will react one day...

25.3 : the princes of option A lose the cow (it's you and your talent as a poet), but 25.4 seems to mean you'll find them when they realize your talent !

What does 37 mean : will you find a new family of writers with B ? Or, the A family stays behind the scenes... Anyway, it's not a problem to change publishers 🌺
 

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Thanks Matali! Your interpretation of 25.3.4.>37 is quite interesting bc I did frame the question, in my mind, as "what happens if I withdraw from A and send to B?" So the lost cow is gained by the wanderer, right?
 

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Thanks Matali! Your interpretation of 25.3.4.>37 is quite interesting bc I did frame the question, in my mind, as "what happens if I withdraw from A and send to B?" So the lost cow is gained by the wanderer, right?

25.3.4 : Normally, line 3 means that you lose something, that you change your option, that you change your partner... but since you don't work for A or B, what do you lose ??
Line 4 is promising because perseverance is the order of the day...
What if you ask Yi if you could work for A and B at the same time ?
 

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Hello !
My hypothesis is to choose - for now - option B because the princes of option A do not react and apparently they are very wrong !
But according to line 50.3, in the end comes fortune, so they will react one day...

25.3 : the princes of option A lose the cow (it's you and your talent as a poet), but 25.4 seems to mean you'll find them when they realize your talent !

What does 37 mean : will you find a new family of writers with B ? Or, the A family stays behind the scenes... Anyway, it's not a problem to change publishers 🌺
Updates: as advised by Matali I should've withdrawn my materials from A and gone with Option B. I didn't follow the clear indications given by the Yi and I'm paying the price.

So, at present, the situation is unsatisfactorily unresolved. clearly, 50.3.4 >4 meant that I was/would be a bit foolish and naive to let my work sit in the 50 Pot Uneaten (line 3). This drawn out process has so far shown indications of incompetence and neglect actually on part of some of the editorial team (I heard similar complaints from other people and there's word that folks won't send in their stuff there at all). Line 4 could mean that by having waited for too long, I risk getting annoyed and then overreact - soiling or dropping the pot/meal late, which is bad for me. I'll be the one blamed for failure to get this stuff not; not the editor. Or it could be that by not having the good meal eaten/work noticed on time, I lose out on incoming opportunities for additional work.

The 25.3.4 > 37 may have meant that the loss (of cow/docility) in one context, would be a gain in another context, and things could have turned out well (line 4, option B). A more familiar/approachable environment? I'll never know coz I didn't go for this one. In hindsight, it does look much better.
 

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50.3.4 >4 meant that I was/would be a bit foolish and naive to let my work sit in the 50 Pot Uneaten (line 3). This drawn out process has so far shown indications of incompetence and neglect actually on part of some of the editorial team (I heard similar complaints from other people and there's word that folks won't send in their stuff there at all). Line 4 could mean that by having waited for too long, I risk getting annoyed and then overreact - soiling or dropping the pot/meal late, which is bad for me. I'll be the one blamed for failure to get this stuff not; not the editor. Or it could be that by not having the good meal eaten/work noticed on time, I lose out on incoming opportunities for additional work.

The 25.3.4 > 37 may have meant that the loss (of cow/docility) in one context, would be a gain in another context, and things could have turned out well (line 4, option B). A more familiar/approachable environment? I'll never know coz I didn't go for this one. In hindsight, it does look much better.
Outcomes: I have partly changed my mind on the above. I will stick to my original interpretation of 50: transformational situation where there's nourishing food waiting to be eaten (it'll take a bit, l3) but in the end it does rain. It rained for me in the meantime - my poetry will be published where I first sent it to. I will also stick to the line 4 feeling I had - by waiting too much one risks wanting to eat quickly, diving into the pot, meddling and thereby stumbling on it, making it fall on the floor. If I would have behaved in the ways that my head was calling me to act, I would have certainly seemed foolish to some VIP and spoiled the meal. I controlled myself, listened to my intuition to wait just a few days more, and the message came through.
I will adjust my interpretation of 25 > 37 slightly: losing one's docility by means of impatience would potentially imply loss or bring undeserved misfortune (l3). Example: the loss could have been to withdraw and search for greener pastures but then finding that these don't exist so things would still have taken their time. what line 4 meant here is that patience and perseverance were blameless and rewarded, in relation to the question 'what if I withdraw/pull out'
 

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