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Do I have COVID19 Delta? uc30 ~~ Will heavier, more frequent Vitamin C doses help? uc21

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Over the past few days, I've had a sore throat and uvula. My usual efforts didn't seem to make an appreciable dent in it, which surprised me a bit. I'd been taking tons of Vitamin C, to seemingly little effect... okay, maybe it held back whatever other symptoms may have otherwise been there, but the sore throat and uvula are still very persistent... the Vitamin C does help... for a short while, at least. So does the honey. Again, for a short while. Doesn't last long, bemusingly...

I decided to ask Yi if I had the COVID19 Delta variant? Yi gave me uc30, which seems to clearly indicate that my suspicions are very correct.

I then decided to ask what the outcome would be if I upped my dosages of Vitamin C? Would taking higher, more frequent doses than usual help? An uc21 seems very promising ~ I have to just keep piling on the pressure so to speak, so I can crack through it.
 

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Can you not get tested ? That would be better than guessing through the I Ching. I mean are you going to actually believe you have Covid without a test ? Whatever anyone says about the reading the only way you are going to know if you have Covid is through a test which here in UK are widely available.

I don't think a sore throat is particularly a Covid symptom is it ? You are going to need to isolate if positive obviously and you surely won't be isolating on the basis of 30uc so a test is your only way forward isn't it ?
 

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The fact that both of those readings are unchanging makes it even trickier, I think. Unchanging can indicate that it has nowhere to go, you don't have a personal place to stand with it (no relating hexagram). I have a hard time with them a lot.

30 can be about illumination (Image: "Doubled light gives rise to Clarity. Great People with continuous light illuminate the four regions"). I suppose a connection could be made between illumination and vitamin C as the "sunshine" vitamin, but I think it's more likely to mean shed light on this - find out, get a test. It'll help your peace of mind if nothing else, and I assume the tests aren't scarce anymore so there's no reason not to.

21 is similar, about legal proceedings, finding out the truth. "The ancient kings brought light to punishments and enforced the laws." What are the laws here? The mechanisms of how illnesses work and how to treat them, maybe.

I don't think a sore throat is particularly a Covid symptom, either. A person could probably have Covid and a sore throat at the same time, but coughing's the paramount Covid symptom, isn't it?
 
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Also you don't know what the sore throat is. If it's viral, it'll clear up and there's not much to do for it. If it's strep (you don't know it's not) you need antibiotics.

Thinking about it a little more, I suspect the readings are advice, not direct answers. Shine light, find out, go to the doctor, get to grips with it.
 
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I've heard that if you are needing vitamin c to fight an illness you need to take it about every half hour and take a lot. Like until you have diarrhea .

Meanwhile 30 has the image of two flames that together send light in all directions. Maybe an indication that you need a second light, an actual covid test, to get clarity?
 

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... asked Yi if I had COVID19 Delta variant? Yi gave uc30 .... which seems to clearly indicate that my suspicions are very correct.

As at least one other person here has suggested, it's best if you get tested for COVID instead of relying on any of us to tell you if you have it or not. Heck, if I were worried about getting COVID ,I wouldn't rely on my own interpretion of the Yi to give me the answer!

I'm curious however, what made you come to the conclusion that because you got 30 UC that this means you have the COVID Delta variant? (30 is called Flame, Oriole, Fire, Brilliance, Cohesion ....) I'm not really drawing the same conclusion, so I'm curious how you got to your conclusion.

As an aside, did you already get vaccinated? I assume so, since you're wondering about a variant and not 'original' COVID .

I am really unclear about what this reading is saying or not, except maybe ... that you should seek 'clarity' (light) and get tested. Also the words of 30 include ... 'auspicious for raising cows' .... so maybe it's saying you are part of 'herd immunity'?

What I did read was this: It’s important to remember that sore throats are common and caused by lots of respiratory illnesses such as normal colds. So although many people with COVID-19 experience sore throats, most people with a sore throat will not have COVID-19.

I suppose I'd be more concerned if I also had some of the other, more common symptoms.

Best, D
 

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Can you not get tested ? That would be better than guessing through the I Ching. I mean are you going to actually believe you have Covid without a test ? Whatever anyone says about the reading the only way you are going to know if you have Covid is through a test which here in UK are widely available.

I don't think a sore throat is particularly a Covid symptom is it ? You are going to need to isolate if positive obviously and you surely won't be isolating on the basis of 30uc so a test is your only way forward isn't it ?
I've got a COVID test done yesterday ~ from two places, actually. First only did COVID tests, and the second did a bacterial and viral swab, as well as telling that the viral swap also covered COVID.

And I did the reading before I'd gotten any results.

The results from the second place state that no COVID was detected.

So, that gives me an opportunity to look back at what Yi was trying to actually say.

Looking back at answers in retrospect after after a queried event has come to pass seems the most useful way of learning of Yi's launguage, so the speak ~ or how it is speaking to me in particular.
 

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As an aside, did you already get vaccinated? I assume so, since you're wondering about a variant and not 'original' COVID .

For viral respiratory infections of this nature, I've never really seen the need to get a vaccine, because my immune system seems pretty robust in general, and when I do get sick, I've always just thrown a lot of vitamin C at the issue, and it resolves it in due time.
 

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For viral respiratory infections of this nature, I've never really seen the need to get a vaccine,

If you don't feel the need to get vaccinated, then I don't see that you need to ask the Yi anything, and I wouldn't even bother getting tested! Just take a bunch of whatever it is want to take and things will resolve themselves in due time.

Of course 'resolution' might mean that you get very, very sick and you're only left with very serious side effects, or you might die - but a robust person such as yourself should be okay with whatever happens.
 

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Yi doesn't judge me based on whether or not I take the vaccine. Yi gives me personal guidance for certain questions, and leaves me to mull over the answer and see where it takes my mind.

I post here to seek additional interpretations that can help piece together what Yi might be getting at, and I've gotten some very interesting answers.

Always good to get additional interpretations.

If you don't feel the need to get vaccinated, then I don't see that you need to ask the Yi anything, and I wouldn't even bother getting tested! Just take a bunch of whatever it is want to take and things will resolve themselves in due time.
This is an unhelpful answer. Just because I don't feel the need to get vaccinated, doesn't mean that Yi cannot give me guidance. One of the COVID tests came back negative, anyways. So, probably not COVID... and the result came back after I'd done the reading, so my initial interpretation was incorrect then. uc30 could thus mean... seek clarity, not that my initial interpretation was correct.

As for vaccines, vaccines are useful, yes, but I don't blindly consider them to be the only possible solution to a problem like this. It's not all or nothing. I don't get flu shots, as I consider them rather useless, as the flu mutates a bit too rapidly for them to make much sense.

Of course 'resolution' might mean that you get very, very sick and you're only left with very serious side effects, or you might die - but a robust person such as yourself should be okay with whatever happens.
Yi didn't answer that my approach would end in disaster, mind you, so it doesn't seem like an incorrect approach. But, it seemingly leaves unanswered whether it is the only thing I can or should be doing, so it doesn't hurt to think thoroughly on asking about different approaches I can take, and whether those will be helpful for me in particular.
 

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The fact that both of those readings are unchanging makes it even trickier, I think. Unchanging can indicate that it has nowhere to go, you don't have a personal place to stand with it (no relating hexagram). I have a hard time with them a lot.
I see... a curious take to consider. I've usually interpreted unchanging hexagrams as being straightforward answers that speak plainly and bluntly about a query, but maybe I need to revise that over time.

30 can be about illumination (Image: "Doubled light gives rise to Clarity. Great People with continuous light illuminate the four regions"). I suppose a connection could be made between illumination and vitamin C as the "sunshine" vitamin, but I think it's more likely to mean shed light on this - find out, get a test. It'll help your peace of mind if nothing else, and I assume the tests aren't scarce anymore so there's no reason not to.
I should have mentioned that I'd gotten a COVID, bacterial, and hopefully a general viral swap, if the nurses did their job correctly, earlier in the day, but that's a trend for me at the moment, it seems... forgetting to give all of the details to something I'm asking about... sigh...

So, it could therefore mean that I need to first wait for the test results to come back, and they did, for one place ~ negative for COVID, thus far.

21 is similar, about legal proceedings, finding out the truth. "The ancient kings brought light to punishments and enforced the laws." What are the laws here? The mechanisms of how illnesses work and how to treat them, maybe.
Something for me to give some good consideration to... a useful interpretation.

I don't think a sore throat is particularly a Covid symptom, either. A person could probably have Covid and a sore throat at the same time, but coughing's the paramount Covid symptom, isn't it?
Probably. I do have a cough, but it's only been involved in me coughing up phlegm... every half hour or so.

Also you don't know what the sore throat is. If it's viral, it'll clear up and there's not much to do for it. If it's strep (you don't know it's not) you need antibiotics.

Thinking about it a little more, I suspect the readings are advice, not direct answers. Shine light, find out, go to the doctor, get to grips with it.
Good points. :)

Antibiotics, I worry about a bit, as they can wreck havoc on the body's gut bacteria. Hence, I avoid them wherever possible, unless there's absolutely no other avenue. I do have some probiotics sitting around, but I don't know whether they work so well to counterbalance any potential damage done by antibiotics. The former is still something for me to mull over, though... the probiotics might indeed help out nonetheless if I actually do end up needing antibiotics ~ if the bacterial swap test results come back positive, probably.
 

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