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marienka

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Hello all,

Thank you for all the shared wisdom here.

I am as most of you deeply fascinated with the I Ching and wish to go deeper and deeper into it. I do use it as an oracle but somehow I feel that that's not my main purpose with it. I have learned it is more useful as guidance than as future telling, but I admit that only shows I am still too attached to specific outcomes for my life's events (answers I dont understand at the time, because they dont serve my wishful thinking...and that I come to admit how clear they were some months later...).

That said, what I really would like to explore is non-oracular uses of the I Ching. Or beyond that. Can you advise me books/films/etc? Pure fiction, philosophy, bridges to other disciplines, dance, theatre, I don't know...

I know John Cage, for example, was using it a lot in his musical composition process.

Looking forward to hearing from you!
Joana
 

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Here are some books:

Man in the High Castle (This is a Classic)
Death and the I Ching
The Angle Quickest for Flight
Old Rocks, New Streams: 64 Poems from the I Ching
Oracle of the turtle: Poems on the I ching
The Glass Bead Game: (Magister Ludi)
The Collected Poems of Octavio Paz, 1957-1987

You must also get the "I Chong" :D

For movies, "A Scanner Darkly" DVD, based on a Philip K. Dick novel, features an interview with PKD's daughter where she shows some of her dad's Yijing readings. Go and rent it.


For other uses in dance, music, etc., check the Open Space and Divination News section. I usually post what I find in the news.
 
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..."I'll try the Ching thing."
"You throw these yarrow stalks in the air, then."
She did. They looked at the ensuing pattern.
"Hmm" said Cutwell after a while. "Well, that's one in the fireplace, one in the cocoa mug, one in the street, shame about the window, one on the table, and one, no, two behind the dresser. I expect Mrs. Nugent will be able to find the rest."
"You didn't say how hard. Shall I do it again?"
"No-ooo, I don't think so" Cutwell thumbed through the pages of a yellowed book that had previously been supporting the table leg. "The pattern seems to make sense. Yes, here we are, Octogram 8,887: Illegality, the Unatoning Goose. Which we cross reference here... hold on...hold on...yes. Got it"
"Well?"
"Without verticality, wisely the cochineal emperor goes forth at teatime; at evening the mollusc is silent among the almond blossom."
"Yes?" said Keli, respectfully. "What does that mean?"
"Unless you're a mollusc, probably not a lot" said Cutwell. "I think perhaps it lost something in translation."...

from, "Mort", by Terry Pratchett (my favorite) ;)
 
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"Hmm" said Cutwell after a while. "Well, that's one in the fireplace, one in the cocoa mug, one in the street, shame about the window, one on the table, and one, no, two behind the dresser. I expect Mrs. Nugent will be able to find the rest."
"You didn't say how hard. Shall I do it again?"

Genius! :D
 

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The man in the high castles is the ultimate answer to your querry.You must read this mindaltering and provocative fiction.There is no equal that i can think os as an artistic expression of things that have no words,and,are legitimate esoteric in their inclusion of utilizing the I as a part of life.RUN DON'T WALK to obtain it.There is an online version available as well. peace,fun and sympathetic joy, aebleparable
 

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Is the Yi just obscure words and methods or what?

Hi marienka,
The Yi is most known by its ancient words or casting methods as the prior replies indicate. However, it is also an expression of ultimately simple yet elegant symbolism. In your research you may find my page on the Flux Tome (Yijing in American idiom) useful--
http://www.stars-n-dice.com/fluxtome.html

If you prefer fiction based on the observation of oracular methods by those without any deep understanding I would suggest the book 1971 about ruling one's life through random dice rolls The Dice Man by Luke Rhinehart, pseudonym. He sort of throws dice to figure out what to do with his life. More a satire of folks who use divination techniques (including psychoanalysis) but it has developed a cult following.

Frank
 

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