does it ever rain with hex 9 UN?

[dragona]

:bows: everyone,
wondering if someone had actual development or something concrete sprung out of hex 9 unchanged, in terms of an action/reaction.Wilhelm called it very auspicious hexagram, but here we are waiting for the rain to fall from the densed clouds in the West. I understand it is about waiting and minding small, every day things but it is also about restraint - in terms of anticipation maybe?
:bows:

 

[pocossin]

It rains in line 6. I understand the small things as ancestral spirits who return to the family as farm animals return to the barnyard at night.

 

[dragona]

It rains in line 6..

Should I understand that the lines are to be taken into the account (perhaps on widening, descriptive level) when one gets hex unchanged?

 

[pocossin]

Should I understand that the lines are to be taken into the account (perhaps on widening, descriptive level) when one gets hex unchanged?

The lines tell stories relevant to the meaning of the hexagram.

 

[long yi]

Hexagram 9
Upper trigram = Chien, clear sky
乾主晴明
Lower trigram = windy day
巽多則四時風烈
No rain in the immediate day.

 

[dragona]

Ok, now - which is it?
Somehow, the image of heaven would always mean a clear sky to me, but then if doubled as in hex 1, Creative chaosy, bound to have many gong ons in there.

THE JUDGMENT
THE TAMING POWER OF THE SMALL
Has success.
Dense clouds, no rain from our western region.
This image refers to the state of affairs in China at the time when King Wên, who came originally from the west, was in the east at the court of the reigning tyrant Chou Hsin. The moment for action on a large scale had not yet arrived. King Wên could only keep the tyrant somewhat in check by friendly persuasion. Hence the image of many clouds, promising moisture and blessing to the land, although as yet no rain falls. The situation is not unfavorable; there is a prospect of ultimate success, but there are still obstacles in the way, and we can merely take preparatory measures. Only through the small means of friendly persuasion can we exert any influence. The time has not yet come for sweeping measures. However, we may be able, to a limited extent, to act as a restraining and subduing influence. To carry out our purpose we need firm determination within and gentleness and adaptability in external relations.W.
But if clouds are gathering, how can that sky be clear? Perhaps we need to clear it from anticipation?

The wind can indeed drive the clouds together in the sky; yet, being nothing but air, without solid body, it does not produce great or lasting effects. So also an individual, in times when he can produce no great effect in the outer world, can do nothing except refine the expression of his nature in small ways.
Perhaps this is the answer. Not nearly enough.
Or it is just and advice as i have seen it in the first place?

 

[pocossin]

Hexagram 9
Upper trigram = Chien, clear sky
乾主晴明
Lower trigram = windy day
巽多則四時風烈
No rain in the immediate day.

Long Yi, you have the trigrams in the wrong places.

 

[precision grace]

I call this hexagram "It could be worse". Hope that helps.

 

[dragona]

no

but since I got somewhat encouraging casts before, I tend to think Yi was telling me to work on my own everyday projects and issues until there is some imput on the matter as I asked : what doing xxx brings.
Just wondered if unchanged waiting meant forever for some members here.
Btw, I really wish for the rain for the last few days as it is unbearebly hot and there is rain in Western Europe which is more then coincidence in this matter.

 

[foxx777]

no

but since I got somewhat encouraging casts before, I tend to think Yi was telling me to work on my own everyday projects and issues until there is some imput on the matter as I asked : what doing xxx brings.
Just wondered if unchanged waiting meant forever for some members here.
Btw, I really wish for the rain for the last few days as it is unbearebly hot and there is rain in Western Europe which is more then coincidence in this matter.

My own experience with Hex 9 Unchanging is, if you go about your business in the right way, although you are in a situation of waiting ("Dense clouds, but no rain [yet] from our western region") it WILL rain at some future point.

I had a situation which was troubling me for about 2 years, and often received H 9 Unchanging about it.

Just when I thought it was hopeless, a never-ending situation of frustration, the "rain" did indeed come!:bows:

 

[precision grace]

we can definitely swap if you like. It's raining here all the time. Crazy. No summer.

You sound like you need to let of steam somehow...hope you find a way

 

[dragona]

I had a situation which was troubling me for about 2 years, and often received H 9 Unchanging about it.

Hello there stranger , thanks a lot for sharing. I don`t intend to wait very long, just a week or 2 maybe.

I should be on the beach, actually, my mind is a mush in this weather and blowing off steam is way overdue - from this point onwards, blowing up only pow*

 

[long yi]

Long Yi, you have the trigrams in the wrong places.

Thanks for pointing that out.
Outcome still the same.:bows:

 

[dragona]

On weather and more, there has been rain, a flood actually, but Yi gives me the hex 9 with changing lines 2,4,5 this time for asking what I need to know about giving up on a certain wish/idea/plan I was very keen on...resulting hex is Clarity, so thought I ask