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Dream meaning? 23.1.2>41

msmith

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Hello all, the other day I had a dream about my deceased mother. She was in a painful state and was wailing, it reminded me of how she was towards the end of her illness. I woke up to find it was the pigeons outside making the wailing sound. It was a powerful dream. I asked IC what was meaning of this dream? 23.1.2>41
It appears to be advising I should shed/reduce something. As a bit of background I split from my gf recently, partly since she claimed I wanted to depend on her, like a second mother. Its true I don't think I properly got over the loss of my mother as we were very close. I wonder if the message is for me to shed my dependence, to man up, so to speak. Its quite an emotional reading. Would appreciate any useful insight/comments. Thank you.
 

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Hi msmith,

I think you are right about getting over the loss, removing this dependence on mother-figure.
Hidden line is 23.1 → 27.2 → 41 (Decreasing), Richmond:
Seeking nourishment from below is not proper.
Seeking nourishment from above brings evil.

Try to find proper source of energy.

Rely more on yourself, try to be self-sufficient.
 
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Hello msmith:

Thank you for sharing both your dream and reading.

I want to go out on a limb and say that perhaps you already know the ‘what’ of your dream; that it’s about grief and loss. Perhaps then the question is about how to deal with the dream, with grief?

I think Hilary’s questions (paraphrased) for 23, Stripping Away speak to the core of your reading: What is the way to let this go? What is under the surface?

And the text too: “… the old and unviable is stripped back to expose the living core.” And … “the old is stripped away [and you then have a] choice to think in new ways.”

My take on the lines 1,2 suggest that your security, your ‘resting place,’ has become less solid for you—in a sense, ‘stripped away.’ Your dream and the fact that you are choosing to address it point to this: you’ve stepped beyond a secure gate and onto a path of healing.

For hexagram 41, I look beyond Hilary’s words. From Lise’s web site, http://www.yijing.nl/ she refers to 41 as ‘the empty cauldron’ and describes the hexagram image as an outstretched hand, palm up, next to a cauldron with a circle, or zero, above it. She says:

“Get rid of all conditioning and forms. You think you need them for being present ..., for being visible, being you. But … they … hide your soul, your essence, your creativity, and they can even destroy all this. If you dare to be your naked self, you will be amazed how great and rich it is …. Only an empty cauldron can receive others and blessings.”

The image of an empty cauldron is powerful to me. So, perhaps your way forward would be to find a way to empty the cauldron of grief (maybe it’s you? I don’t know), or maybe to ‘empty’ your own grief into another empty vessel, whatever form that is?

I offer a note of caution here (admittedly, speaking to myself as well): In dealing with grief we often feel we have to ‘man up,’ to smash grief over the head, to just get on with things--without ever really dealing with what lies beneath. Our culture seems to almost demand it, but I think that is not the path to healing; in fact, it may be part of why we have so much hatred and madness in our world.

I would suggest, instead, that the I Ching is asking you to consider looking at this in a new, different way: that your grief is the ‘living core’ being revealed, and that the ‘old and unviable’ is anything that keeps you from freely and fully embracing it. It’s not a matter of destroying grief, but of addressing it, feeling it, accepting it.

Anyways … sorry for rambling a bit, and I hope something in my words is useful.

Regards, David.

PS - I just found this quote I wanted to share. 'Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry ...' - Khalil Gibran
 
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Thanks Tim and David for your thoughts, that really helps. I am trying to finally cone to terms with it. Thanks again and seasons greetings!!
 

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