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Hello,
In the last 2 years my home town has been
hit by and still is being hit by earthquakes
Most building here are gone.
Two years before the earthquakes I seperated from
a 25 year marriage which became soo bitter that I
didn't see my daughter & son who at the time were
13 and 14 years old.
I have in the last few months regained some contact again
with my daughter. But no pun here! we are still on shakie ground!
Over all this time I have clung to the I ching and still do:bows:
like a baby:rant::mad::duh::confused::hug:
Thank-you all soo much for being here:bows:
Anyway the ground had stopped moving for the last
few months but this week we are getting hit again!!
When will it stop!!!!

I asked, What is the significance of the earthquakes
in my life?

I received Hex 54 line 4 to 19.

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciate:bows:

In Grace
ruthee
 

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My god, where are you? I am surprised you did not get Hexagram 51, the shocks reverberating everywhere!

I think 54.4 in this context is about having to wait for something, but still having time for it ("a late marriage comes in due course"-- the marriage is overdue, it is too late; but it is in harmony with the season). You are weathering inner and outer earthquakes: Somehow all is as it should be in the visible and invisible realms.

Hex 19: Nearing, an approach. It is not good if it happens too early (Ewald Berkers version of Yi Ching). I do wish you safety, peace, and luck!!!
 

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Where do you live? How do you use the computer with such devastation all around? All best wishes for your safety, Ruthee, and thanks for posting. :hug:

Your reading says the effect of the earthquakes in your life is that they make it necessary to delay all actions.
 

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Thanks foxx777
I live just out of Christchurch in New Zealand.
Yes I have a feeling that I need to stay here for now
but as most people I know have left and keep saying
get out while you can, I just can't leave as it means
leaving my children and alsoI have to sell my house etc..
But I do feel sometimes maybe I have left it too late!
ruthee
 

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Hi Ginnie,

The computer has been knocked out a few times
But everybody here works 24/7 to get services back
up and running plus there is wireless.
Such shock in your life builds a whole different way of how
you look at life.
I didn't give a second thought that the planet earth shall we say,
could shake and move like it was living.
Nothing is soild in this world, as Yi teaches
We used to think the earth was flat.
I'm well thanks with a much hightened spirit
gained from this!
And over the coming years we will be building a new city
which I hope I can be part of.

In grace
ruthee
 

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What is the significance of the earthquakes in my life?

I usually associate the lower trigram, Lake or The Joyous, with emotion. What you received is initially Thunder, or spirit, the initiative to follow your dreams, goals, etc. This is above emotion, effectively bottling it. Your willpower silences any major feelings you have. When an earthquake enters your life (indicated through the change to the second hexagram) it opens you up to the pure matter-at-hand, the earthquake. In a way, your emotions are freed as they simultaneously react to the pressure of a natural disaster. In the pattern as a whole, the fourth line changes to yin to create a somewhat lesser (2 and 2) version of Hexagram 12: Peace. There is a certain peace in catastrophe.
 

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Bringing you home to the well, a cool glass of water!!
Ps. That was hard (water) to find for while!
In grace

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Earthquake prediction: Be careful from June to September

Six line method. You 54.4 is translate into the chart below:

出生时间:年 性别:女 起卦方式:直接指定
起卦时间:2012年05月25日04时07分

神煞:天乙—酉亥 福星—子戌 日禄—巳 羊刃—午 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支:壬辰年 乙巳月 丙戌日 庚寅时
旬空:午未  寅卯  午未  午未


六神  伏神    兑宫:雷泽归妹(归魂)    坤宫:地泽临
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母庚戌土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸酉金 天乙 
玄武       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟庚申金 驿马   ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙癸亥水 应
白虎 子孙丁亥水 ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼庚午火  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母癸丑土  
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丁丑土 世   ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丁丑土  
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丁卯木     ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丁卯木 世
朱雀       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼丁巳火     ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼丁巳火 

There are lot of events that happen around you. Your mind is not a peace (line 3 host line). At present, no spouse or children is by your side to support you. Overall, you still benefit from all that chaos.

Jun 4 - Jul 3: A lot of work activities are extremely time consuming, and will not reach a fruitful conclusion (line 4).

Earthquakes:
Jul 4 - Aug 3: line 3 interacts with the month. Jul 19-Aug 3, building may shake.
Aug 4 - Sept 3申金 people move away
Sept 4 - Oct 3酉金 worst month, some people will come and help with the situation.


Old Iching theory & earthquake
坤为地震 Hexagram 19 in house of kun 坤 reflects earthquake
预测地震,卦中官鬼发动
To predict earthquake, line 4 官鬼 = "officer" is the change line.

测地震,白虎官鬼同动,地震猛烈,来势凶猛,死伤人数多
The white tiger and the 官鬼 = "officer" shows up as the change line means there is a very serious earthquake. There will be injury and loss of lives.

归魂卦,有余震。
Hexagram 54 refers to soul returning. There is secondary earthquake after the first major earthquake.

震级:西南方向——坤为土
There may be earthquake in the south west direction.

Having an earthquake and also secondary earthquake is almost a guarantee.
 

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Yes, I did bottle up my emotions after my mairrage breck up
as indicated in lower trigram.
And yes it was the earthquake the opened and released them.
This was made more powerful in its expression for me as everybody
around me at the time did the same. I was no longer islolated in my feeling
and yes again, a great peace was found after this release!
Thanks, Your reading is correct. ruthee
 

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Long yi,
The first earthquake hit on the 4th Sept 2010
and the centre point was in the southwest from the city.
The second big quake hit on the 22nd Feb 2011 and
alot of people died. It was centred in the east of the city.
We are perpared for more after shocks but they have got
less and less over the last few years, as we are told would happen.
I have been on my own over this time and worked really hard, but have benefited.
Thanks, I see your reading of hex and lines correct of the past and hopfully not the
future?
In grace
ruthee
 

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Ps:
I am off tomorrow to the citys RED ZONE
to sing in the church choir! to show support! it
is the only church left standing in the earthquake zone!
Lets hope the ground doesn't move!!
Face your Fear!

In Grace
ruthee
 

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Hi All,

Come on, you are looking at post!
Post please, I need help!!!
In Grace
Ruthee
 

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I live in the U.S.A. and our news media carried the story of the first earthquake in Christchurch. After that, the story in the media was not updated and we didn't hear about the other earthquakes, and so I am surprised to hear that they have not stopped and that the citizens of New Zealand continue to live in difficult circumstances. It comes as quite a shock! (No pun intended ... )

Is there any other place you might move to live, because life is getting too hard in Christchurch? You must have asked the I Ching about moving! ...
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Hi Ginnie,
Thanks for reply
Something is not letting me move at the moment
Sounds odd I know, but its true! It comes from deep inside of me.
I live 1hours,30 mins by car, further south from Christchurch
so have not been hit as bad, but buildings have come down and
lots deemed unsafe. My house luckey suffered only minor damage( has five chimmeys)
1920's double brick! It appears at present the quakes centre is moving east out to sea
not south where I live.
Asked the I ching
Should I move?
Or wait for the earth to move me?
(Excuse the pun!)
Hex 39 lines 3&4 <45
Going leads to obstrutions
returning
I take this to mean to wait until the obstrutions past?
I find it hard to see as my emotions are very close to
the surface at the moment. This is my home and all I have really
known so to move for me is hard!!
Any help to read the hex would be most grateful!
In grace
ruthee
 

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Bad news man, sorry to hear about this. I think the advice you're receiving is saying, wait and prepare. There is obstruction which becomes gathering together. In the face of danger, you remain calm, in the first hexagram (reading the trigrams), then you receive help from those who are enthusiastic/prepared. You should get help and ready your weapons. Currently the I Ching is telling you, "it is not necessarily the time to decide whether to leave or not, but that time may come soon enough, and you should prepare either way."

There's a lot of talk of supplies in the second hexagram btw, so keep that in mind:

To bring great offerings creates good fortune.

Thus the superior man renews his weapons
In order to meet the unforeseen.

best of luck
 

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Interesting or odd enough, seen your posts maybe two days ago and yesterday the earthquake in Italy and they said was felt here and we could be in danger as a question of time!
What you were going through, that must have been like a state of war almost, be prepared for anything...but looks like it is subsiding...although, there may be the situation were your help will be needed and you will find it is your obligation to stay as to me, it look you are the fighter!
Sincerely best wishes, d.
 

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Hexagram 39 can be confusing, with all its 'goings' and 'comings,' but this reading is clear enough. Happiness for those who stay home [happiness for those within] and 'those coming will forge useful connections.' Maybe it has become your mission or almost like a cause to continue to live through these difficulties, especially since the trouble seems to be moving east, out to sea. I hope the trouble continues to move out that way and leave you all alone!

Are you having what they call tremblors and are you having them every day?

We only had one really mild earthquake where I live in my whole lifetime, that I can recall. It was just a slow-moving, undulating sort of earthquake that didn't destroy any property but just made my knees feel like jelly. I looked up from the computer to see everything swaying back and forth in a sickening way. But worse, I think, was the fact that Mother Earth was saying there was no stability anymore; she might do this and she might do a lot worse. So I see these manifestations as warnings from Mother Earth to be more aware of where and how we are living.
 
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Your hexagram 39 to 45
出生时间:年 性别:女 起卦方式:直接指定
起卦时间:2012年05月30日07时46分
神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—巳 日禄—酉 羊刃—申 驿马—巳 桃花—子 华盖—未
干支:壬辰年 乙巳月 辛卯日 壬辰时
旬空:午未  寅卯  午未  午未


六神  伏神    兑宫:水山蹇          兑宫:泽地萃
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙戊子水     ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丁未土  
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母戊戌土     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丁酉金 应
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟戊申金 世×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙丁亥水  
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丙申金  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财乙卯木  
玄武 妻财丁卯木 ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙午火     ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼乙巳火 世福星驿马
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丙辰土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母乙未土  

Line 3 and 4 are door of the room and the house. They are the change lines. In the month of August 5 to September 4, a lot of people are going to move away from your area. The green dragon is in line 3, which means moving away at that month (August 5 to September 4).
Hexagram 39: Go southwest, avoid northeast. This month, no one wants to move, despite that they plan to move.
Foundation strength of your house is so, so at present.
 

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Ruthee: I also live in a double brick building built in the 1920s. Are buildings like this supposed to be more resistant to earthquakes?

I think you must stay in touch with your neighbors and be aware that they might be making plans to move away, as Long Yi said in his post. Well, it is only natural that they might be making plans to move away.

Are you living in fear every day over what the day might bring?
 

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Long yi.
Had an earthquake here today (4.5) in the southwest
which is must closer to where I live.
So your reading of Hex 54 is correct.

In grace
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Also, Please long yi,
Why is it said that the dragon is Green?
does its colour have some meaning?
in grace
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Earthquakes

Hi Ginnie,
Thank-you for your concern regarding my well being.:bows:
Here in New Zealand as long as I have been alive,
there have always been earthquakes.
You are taught from school age about them
and what you need to do.
New Zealands nick name is the shakie Isles!
I have been through and felt earthquakes often in my life here.
It is no new expericence to me.
But what has been different this time is all the aftershocks.
Unally you have a big quake and say 2 aftershocks and thats it.
But this time to date, there has been over 10,000!
and they have been strong.
Also the depth of them has been shallow, most no more than
10ks which makes them more v
Christchurch City was build on swamp land
in the early 1800s. We are a young country!
So the land base is mainly sand/water.
1 or 2 quakes fine, over 10,000 not fine!
What happens in a quake here is the land liquifies
Its like when you are at the beach and the sand is
wet and when you walk/jump on it the water comes
to the surface and you start to sink.
Not good for any type of Building!!
Where I live the land base is volcanic rock
thats why my house is still standing!
Of cause they didn't know this in the 1800's and the settles arrived by boat
and as Christchuch is by the sea who's going to walk further inland to
build a house!!!!! See what happens when your lazy!!!:duh:
Always go that extra mile:rofl::rofl::rofl:
So now I know that the saying; Do not build your house on sand etc etc
Is true!:D
Alot of people who have and will move are the ones who have only lived in
this country a few years.

In grace
Ruthee
 

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What happens in a quake here is the land liquifies
Its like when you are at the beach and the sand is
wet and when you walk/jump on it the water comes
to the surface and you start to sink.
Not good for any type of Building!!

But your house is built on volcanic rock and so you have a more solid foundation. You are not living on ground that might turn into water. I think that's why Yi gave you 39.3 -- "happiness for those within." However the environment as a whole is dangerous. Both the third and the fourth lines moving in hex 39 start with the same words: "To proceed would lead to trouble ... " That seems to be in accord with what you yourself are thinking and feeling; that to stay put is the safest thing you might do right now. That you are someone who is very connected with your environment and who loves where she lives cannot be doubted. It must be horrifying to see the old structures falling, one by one. You must be finding that your true security is your spirit.
 

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Hi, Ruthee:

Each hexagram has 6 lines.

Each line has a character assigned to it: the name are parents, children, wife/wealth, brother, officer/ghost.

Each line has an animal assigned to it. Green dragon, white tiger, bird etc.

The green dragon is a name. There is no other color dragon in Iching literature. It means good luck.

From both Iching readings now, September is the worst month. August: people start to move away.

Your hexagram 39 to 45 (line 3/4 change): 世应相生内外和,守旧迁居总如意
The host line (line 4) and the guest line 1 has a relationship. Line 1 give birth to line 4 (soil produces metal). Whether you wants to move, only depends on you.

When the ground shares (earthquake), people run. This explains the relationship between you (line 4) and the house (line 1). Think about October when you have enough.

It would be wise to move anything of value away from your place and store it in a safe place away from earthquake area to avoid any losses in August and September. Buy supplies and keep all security measures.

All my analysis are based on published Iching literature from different sources and my intrepretation of the literature. Sometimes, it is a poem line in ancient Chinese. It takes awhile to figure out the meaning and find the source in different books.

Your 54/19 hexagram and 39/45 hexagram both points to people moving out in the same month Aug 4 to September 3. Jun and July seems OK as per current reading.

Take all precautions before August/September, and watch out for problems in October (house repair or ground movement etc.).

From the news today:
A deep 4.5-magnitude earthquake has rattled central Canterbury in New Zealand.
The quake struck just before 10.30am (NZ time) today, 30 kilometres west of Ashburton and at a depth of 30km.
*This part confirms the prediction in the first Iching reading* (sad).

The quake was strong enough to shift or overturn small objects, or break glassware and crockery . Many Christchurch residents are already on edge, following another shake last week and last year's earthquake which killed 185 people.
 
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Thank-you, Ginnie & Long yi for your reading of Hex 39 & 45.
This experience has and still is pushing me, to find security in my spirit and that I don't have control over everything in my life! I have packed up alot on my possessions and have the house checked
ongoing to its safely. I have a good network of people around me.
I asking today. Can you show me a picture of my current life please?
Hex 1, lines 1,3,4,5,6<7
learning to work and use my skills with others to gain a common goal.
In grace
ruthee
 

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Your current reading, 1.3.4.5.6 > 7 contains a warning with line 6 moving not to overdo it, not to become overconfident. Otherwise I think it shows you gaining mastery over your own situation with the support of others.
 

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Hi Ruthee,

I am interested in YiJing and I read about your post, which confirmed with Long Yi's predication about ChristChurch earthquake.

Do you think that Yiing (IChing) is the scientific way to do Earthquake prediction?

Many thanks

Best regards

James
 

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