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sartoris

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Hi there,

I'm fairly new to the Yijing, but I'm already absolutely amazed by it. I've been using this forum as a research center when I consult it, and all the discussions here are so useful to me. Thank you!

So it would do me great pleasure in reading your interpretations on this. First time posting, so please be kind! And sorry for any English mistakes ;)

I'm facing a moment here where I think I need some help from "above" to clarify my doubts.

We were together for 5 years and it's been almost 2 months since we broke-up. We haven't talked since then, and the decision to split up was fairly abrupt.

But it seemed the right thing to do at the moment.

The thing is that she's got into this new religion, into new habits and a new philosophy, but it was something that grew in her really fast, and she decided to leave many things behind, including our relationship. We decided to split because we were starting to have conflicting opinions on many subjects.

I've only approached the Yijing about that situation only twice during this period.

First I asked "What is the course of this relationship?" and then I've got 62.1.3.4 > 24 - and I interpreted it as "it's the end with possibilities of returning" - or maybe "One returns to see the results of their action.", just like taoscopy.com says (btw, is this a good site for interpretations in your opinion?)

Last night I asked "Is there a chance of reconciliation?", and then I've got 49.2.3 > 58.Now, this puzzled me a bit. It seems that the Yijing is saying that we need to change ourselves first so there's a possible reconciliation in the future. I read the hexagram 58 as something like "definitely maybe". Could I be wrong?

Anyway, thank your for the site. It's been great to read you all.

One side question: is there any way to also ask Yijing about timing? I was asking other things to it and then this question came to my mind as well.

Bye for now!
Sartoris
 
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bump!

No thoughts on my reading at all?
Am I interpreting the Yijing the right way, at least? Any help is so much appreciated!

Thank you
 

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Lay low as you return to self. for full revolution in communication with others.

Hi,

I have a quick summary more based on the hexagrams themselves. 62 is lay low, be thrifty, reverential in grief and 24, return to your self, your own path. 62 I think of as like the Puritans or how one lives alone with virtually nothing but their own thoughts. Like arriving to a monastery in return to yourself you realise you don't really know.

49 > 58

A full revolution occurs. This is likely you but could be her, also. You likely will venture forth in dialogues with new people, in tune with this new self youre discovering.

62, 24, 49 are all very much about what happens inside of you. I dont see them as relationship hexagrams at all.

58 has not ever been with the person I'm asking about. It's 58 with easy people, open to sharing their lake.

It looks like a really great journey of discovery, change and new communication, for you. In 62 you'll probably look back as you journey 24. But 49 and 58 are pretty great and for me, I think youll be single for awhile and it will be very worth it.
 

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Thank you, mythos!
It's interesting to see that you think some hexagrams are not relationship hexagrams.
You think that even though I'm asking about a partner (and my relation to this partner), sometimes the YiJing "avoids" looking at the question per se and tries to show me my inner feelings instead?

That's a great analysis. Thank you for your help!
 

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"What is the course of this relationship?" and then I've got 62.1.3.4 > 24

This is saying do not persist; it's over.

"Is there a chance of reconciliation?", and then I've got 49.2.3 > 58

This would take a revolution and would probably involve your embracing her new religion and philosophy in the spirit of joyful exchange.
 

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I do sartoris. There are hexagrams that lighten the intensity that can come with certain romantic relationships.

I think 58 could be fine if in a relationship where the conversation was easy and light hearted but if we're here on onlineclarity asking, that is unlikely the case. So, 58 usually means that light hearted conversation can be had where the two lakes readily and easily exchange. Joyousness. I think of it as being like when you behave as a child with someone you really genuinely share an interest with. You just get quite happy and almost bubbly as you share together. There are no thoughts beyond the moment, no expectations. How is this even possible to have with someone you've just split from?

62 is laying low, grieving, being thrifty. The nun in her convent. The monk in the monastery. Reverential. What brings a person to become so devout, by choice? Anyway, it isn't about being in a relationship either unless the relationship were so quietly grieving... but then, what a strange relationship (I can imagine two people separately growing under 62, but not together as a couple)

24 is a return to self for an internal revolution 49 (that naturally happens after a break up, potentially through a period of 62, leading to 58 or 62 privately and 58 socially)

So, yes, nothing about the relationship.

I see the following as potentially engaged relationships 5, 8, 9, 10, 13, 17, 19, maybe 21, 23, 28, 29 as a personal experience within a dynamic, 30 as temporary enlightenment, 31, 38, 51, 52, 53 possibly, 55, 57, 64

6 and 33, 34, 36 and 44 and 54 are somewhat unfortunate dynamics

40, 41, 42, 56, 59 are letting go of dynamics though knowing they exist (so somewhat healthy release)

37 is like structure of relationships

47 when you're making it up

50 is my favorite and could apply to an amazing potential relationship...

Perhaps everyone has a different view

:bows:
 

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