Events After Election Day: 19.1 to 7, 64.6 to 40 and 14.3.4.6 to 19

[Fanofenka]

The 2020 election will be on November 3, unlike November 8 in 2016. November 9 in the election was basically 9/11 in reverse based on numerology. However, I heard of a religious poster to vote for Trump to support the gospel.

What will happen after the 2020 presidential day election? 19.1 Nearing to 7 The Army.
Line 1 says, "Influence nearing. Constancy, good fortune." Can this be that voters will be happy with their contender?

What will happen to Trump supporters after the 2020 presidential day election? 64.6 Not Yet Across to 40 Release.
Line 6 says, "Being true and confident in drinking wine. Not a mistake. Soaking your head, Being true and confident, losing your grip on that." Will they resort to violence?

What will happen to evangelicals after the 2020 presidential day election? 14.3.4.6 Great Possession to 19 Nearing. I got hex 19 in different positions.
Line 3 says, "A prince makes a summer offering to the son of heaven. Small people are in no way capable of this." Will they still have faith in Trump?
Line 4 says, "It is not for you to dominate, No mistake." Will they end up at a loss?
Line 6 says, "From heaven comes help and protection. Good fortune, Nothing that does not bear fruit." Will God save them from damnation?

 

[rosada]

19. Team work - the upper trigram Earth is nourished by the lower trigram, Lake.
19.1 suggests the beginnings of good times and new possibilities for growth. It encourages teaming up with like minded individuals, people who share values and enthusiasm and having goals that benefit everyone involved. It advises moving forward in a calm and balanced way and sticking to what you intuitively feel is good and worthwhile. It advises sharing and proceeding with the awareness that results will take time and cannot be rushed.
7. The Army describes an organization with a strong leader.

Together these hexagrams suggest to me that whoever is elected as president - head of The Army - will have a large Team of supporters who will be ready to follow his/her leadership.

Obviously, this could refer to whoever is elected but I do think it is encouraging that the oracle doesn't describe upheaval or violence so it appears to me the election will not be as chaotic or as close as what we experienced in 2016.

 

[moss elk]

What will happen to Trump supporters after the 2020 presidential day election? 64.6 Not Yet Across to 40

They'll get excessively drunk, as usual.
The Proud Boys did start as a 'drinking club'.

 

[Freedda]

Good frigging god ... I mean, let's at least try to do a real reading ...

19.1 to 7, ... will they end up throwing free hero sandwiches off of rooftops?

64.6 to 40 ... will they hire clowns for the after, after party?

14.3.4.6 to 19... will free Sbarro's pizza now be included in school lunches - to insure that no American goes hungry?

 

[moss elk]

Good frigging god ... I mean, let's at least try to do a real reading ..

I think what Freedda means, please correct me if I am wrong Freedda,
is something like:

Why don't you try asking things about your life, or that help you make decisions,
because it doesn't seem like these sorts of questions can actually serve you in any way?

 

[Freedda]

I think what Freedda means, please correct me if I am wrong Freedda,
is something like:

Why don't you try asking things about your life, or that help you make decisions,
because it doesn't seem like these sorts of questions can actually serve you in any way?

Or, can someone please try to do some readings where the very vague 'answers' are not totally based on one's own political opinions? (or am I setting my expectations a tad bit too high?)

 

[Fanofenka]

Rosada, why does the first question sounds promising? Elk, why does the second question sounds so obnoxious?

 

[moss elk]

Because the line is literally about drinking alcohol to excess, getting wasted.

My family was in the tavern business for several (de-?)generations.
I worked there for a brief time as security.
Occasionally I would go there on an off-day to have some beer.
There were about three times when this line came up on the morning before going there, as a daily reading.
On those three occasions, the patrons were happy to see me off duty, and kept buying me drink after drink.
If I said "no thanks", they would get angry and insist that I let them buy me a drink.
On those three occassions, I got incredibly & embarrassingly drunk.
*shudders when remembering*
(Although that girl that I did not know really liked the love poem I wrote her...)
(And I guess somebody had to dance with those three grandmothers in the middle of the street.)
(And.. no, nevermind.)



You don't have to tell me four times!

 

[Freedda]

As they said on the X-files, the truth is out there ...

19.1 to 7, could it mean, will Trump have a cupcake with his morning coffee? ... Or, does it mean that the Yi thinks the same thing about him that I do?

64.6 to 40, will Melania have low-fat or plain yogurt? Or are Trump supporters up to things that I think are bad? And if the Yi doesn't see it my way, could it mean it's biased?

14.3.4.6 to 19, and will Mitch McConnell, spike his morning coffee with vodka, or have his eggs with American cheese and a cup of borscht? Or, should I simply ask, mirror, mirror on the wall, is trump the worst-est of them all? (Response as always, but of course.)

 

[rosada]

Freedda, were you saying you thought my interpretation of 19.1 was biased? If so, please read it again. While I am not a Trump supporter, I think my take on 19.1-7 was fair and indeed could apply to whomever actually wins the election. In fact I think it's rather amazing how the I Ching can answer all these politically charged questions in ways that do not take sides.

 

[Freedda]

Freedda, were you saying you thought my interpretation of 19.1 was biased? In fact I think it's rather amazing how the I Ching can answer all these politically charged questions in ways that do not take sides.

Rosada, no, my comments were not directed at you at all. And I also often find that they Yi's responses to political questions don't have a left- or right-leaning slant, but instead 'get to the heart of the matter' so to speak.

My comments were instead directed at fanofenka, the author of this post, who also has posted dozens of other politically laced 'readings' which all seem to cherry pick the answers, so the Yi is presented as a liberal broad-side, mimicing the author's own political views.

I'm very left leaning, so it's not anyone's political views I have issue with. It's just that I don't think the Yi should be my 'beard' or 'yes man' or 'fall guy' which is how the author seems to treat his readings: 'see, I think Trump is a jerk and isn't it nice that the Yi is agreeing with me?'

That to me is quite far removed from actually using or listening to the Yi in any real way, so hence my nonsensical post above, where I 'interpret' what the Yi is saying - much as fanofenka does - by asking:

' ... will Trump have a cupcake with his morning coffee?' ... Or, 'will Melania have low-fat or plain yogurt?'

That's the level and quality that I think these posts are at, but I think the author doesn't see it that way, and will continue on in the same vein I suppose. But what do you expect from a knee-jerk liberal?

Best, D.

 

[Chione]

Hello all - personally I also think it is a strange question to ask the IChing - but then traditionally I think this was exactly the sort of questions asked by rulers (or their advisers) in ancient times.
As I am new to the IChing and like to gain some experience with it, and as this is a question with potentially global consequences, I have decided to ask the same question again: What will happen (in the US) after the 2020 presidential election? Got 52 unchanging.
Maybe in both cases the IChing is not giving an objective answer as to "what will really happen" - but gives a subjective answer that only applies to the querant. For Fanofenka it means "joint approach, perseverance will bring good fortune" leading to correct discipline, clear structures and (better) organisation - whatever that may mean for her - maybe getting organised and joining a group of like-minded people to rally for her cause (whether or not Trump is still in office - if he is then to get him out of office and if he is not to maybe hold him accountable).
Whereas for me it only means watching from the sidelines (as I am not a US citizen).

 

[Freedda]

... As I am new to the IChing and like to gain some experience with it, and ... I have decided to ask the same question again: What will happen (in the US) after the 2020 presidential election? Got 52 unchanging.

Well, hello Chione. A few 'newbie' pointers. It's always best to start your own thread when posing your question - that way you give your reading the space it deserves and you're also respectful of other's posts. And it's always good to add your thoughts and feelings about the reading, even if your 'interpretation' starts out a bit sparse. There are a few 'stickies' at the top you can look at that have good tips and 'best practices' for this forum. Best, d.

 

[Trojina]

Hello all - personally I also think it is a strange question to ask the IChing - but then traditionally I think this was exactly the sort of questions asked by rulers (or their advisers) in ancient times.
As I am new to the IChing and like to gain some experience with it, and as this is a question with potentially global consequences, I have decided to ask the same question again: What will happen (in the US) after the 2020 presidential election? Got 52 unchanging.

I think it's likely this is Yi telling you to stop, don't ask this, you don't need to. And of course it amuses me you say these were the kinds of questions asked by rulers and their advisors in ancient times. Well yes but that is because the answers directly affected their decisions because they were rulers or advisors.

You aren't a rule nor an advisor so what are you going to about this 52 and who do you think it applies to ?

 

[Chione]

Sorry, just hit the "post" button too soon. Concerning the new thread - I see what you mean (and yes, I've read the 'stickies') - but in this case I felt it would be better to have it in one thread - because it is exactly the same question

 

[Trojina]

No it definitely isn't better. For one thing we'd end up with 200 questions all the same - what is the point...also see points in my earlier posts.


It's only okay to add your questions in another person' thread if they invite you to, otherwise start your own.


There have been threads where people were invited to post all their political readings on the same topic but this isn't oneof them

 

[Freedda]

- but in this case I felt it would be better to have it in one thread - because it is exactly the same question

As already noted, no, not better to add your different reading to another's post, even if it is similar or the same, unless asked. It makes things too cluttered and can feel like you're 'hijacking' another person's thread. Best, D.

 

[Fanofenka]

Seeing the economic news yesterday, Trump will be going down the drain.

 

[Chione]

Ok. Got it. Sorry, did not mean to 'hijack' this thread

 

[Freedda]

Seeing the economic news yesterday, Trump will be going down the drain.

And once again, what does your biased, short-sided opinions on the events of the day have to do with the Yi, or even with your so-called reading here?

And what are you going to post when the stock market bounces back and goes up hundred or thousands of points? Should we expect that you'll be singing Trump's praises?