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It appears I can talk to others through the I-Ching. I've done this in the past and recently. Answers seem very relevant and on a lot of the time. Does this make sense? Maybe I'm communicating with their higher selves?
 

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How d'you do that then, please share :D I can't imagine how you do that, using the Yi like a telephone ? Do you mean you get a better understanding of others through your questions...rather than say "John do you want to go out for a drink ?' via the Yi lol...oh dear spoken communication is hard enough imagine relying on Yi to communicate to others..I'd have to telepathically send a hexagram and a line and then..and then...no you don't mean that do you ?

I'm certain we can chat to others higher selves via dreams...and er sometimes their lower selves also lol..there is the Clarity Astral Cafe apparently where we often meet though i can't recall too much about it.
 

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Oops... sorry.. I meant to include how I ask questions. I ask: "(Name)," and then the question as if I'm addressing him if he were standing right in front of me.

I got responses that are very on and I feel are coming from him. Maybe I'm imaging it, but it seems I can get answers from him, or maybe it's his higher self?
 

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Oh thats interesting, I've never thought of doing that. It would have a totally diferent feel i imagine. So instead of asking 'how is John feeling about me" you'd address him directly throught the Yi "John how are you feeling about me"..thats really quite imaginative. Do you feel its improved your actual earthly relationship though or do you just feel its kind of healing on some other level between you ?
 
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Well he pretty much broke things off a little over a week ago. Whether or not he felt my questions consciously or not I'm not sure.

I have engaged in Technical Remote Viewing in the past so I'm very convinced of the collective unconscious, but not sure how it relates to this kind of IChing activity.
 
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meng

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Very interesting method. May have to experiment with that sometime.

I assume the other person is consensually playing too? Or is this a covert activity?

Ok, just read your in-between post. For me that's a dicey area: remote viewing etc, being a firm believer in the right to privacy.
 

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i guess you can use the Yi like that, maybe mostly to confer
and the other person has to know and to be willing to play along
 

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Thing is I reckon re pure mind to mind communications they simply don't happen without the 'agreement' of both parties. I don't mean spoken or formal agreement but at least a harmonising on wave lengths...or something.

If you are talking to the other via the I Ching because they won't talk to you in 'real' life its likley they won't via the I Ching either although they may i suppose if a part of themselves they aren't fully aware of wants it.

I don't know if its possible, I've never thought of it..it is quite interesting especially for those who think we access the universal unconscious or something via the Yi then logically i suppose we could also connect with anyone....

even dead people ? :eek:

Because i tend to anthropomorphize Yi though, if i did it there would probably always be the figure of a small Chinese gentleman (Yi) standing between us...kind of chaperoning :D
 

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Following this train of thought through, that some like FateQueen suggest its possible to commune directly with others through Yi, if we include those in spirit then aren't we trying to use the Yi a kind of sophisticated Ouija board (shudder)...? Hmm not too keen on that idea....I imagine if you tried to use it that way,to connect with someone long gone you'd likley get an answer reflecting your motives..hard to say..it all comes back to what one thinks the Yi is once again i suppose.

Maybe someone should ask about this..if it 'works' to use the Yi the way Fatequeen suggests....but then we wouldn't agree on the answer i don't suppose..but still it is an interesting one
 

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I doubt the person on the other end understands fully what is occurring. I may cross his mind and he may even think about the issue I am asking him about, but highly unlikely, unless he is very intuitive and in touch with his own "sphere" that someone is initiating the thoughts.
 

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Possibility is there; ethics are absent... How's that different from peeping? Furthermore, the high/low "intuitive scale" you present can be interpreted as those that are in the low end of that scale are easy prey for the ones above, and none the wiser.

I wonder and must ask: Is that a proper ascending spiritual path?
 

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I doubt the person on the other end understands fully what is occurring. I may cross his mind and he may even think about the issue I am asking him about, but highly unlikely, unless he is very intuitive and in touch with his own "sphere" that someone is initiating the thoughts.

I don't think you can make him think about certain things and then read his thoughts, that puts you in a kind of superior/advantaged stance to him and I do believe others don't give away in their thoughts when they do not consent to...some part of their mind/spirit does not allow it..otherwise its a violation really. Well I say it cannot happen, at least I want to think it cannot happen but I can't prove it...
 

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My grandson is due to be born in June. I have been talking to him through the I Ching. Sampling of our conversations..

"How ya doin, Jaxon?" Answer: 58.1 "Fine, thanks."

"How do you feel about being born?" Answer 27.1.6 > 2 "Not too happy at the thought of leaving this nice womb, but I'm sure I'll be okay. Don't know too much about it really."

"How do you feel about me talking to you through the I Ching?" Answer 19.4.6 > 38 "No problemo. If I didn't like it I just wouldn't answer."

:) rosada
 

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Yes, I believe he could not answer if he didn't want to.. other wise I beleive I am probably talking to his higher self. The Iching as well as remote viewing also may not allow it.

Some remote viewing sessions I tried to run I felt the martix just wouldn't let me penetrate to the target.. no matter how many times I tried it.

Also, sometimes I just ask the Ching "What of (name) and I?" just to see where things stand between us in the ether.
 

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one could end up in deep waters if one wholly starts to believe the Yi is kind of channeling the answers of the other..if the other actually wants nothing to do with you, but i guess theres no way of checking it out to verify if you're not actually in communication with them

I'm sure Jaxon (great name !) can't wait to meet his grandma, but he was probably familiar with the Yi in a previous life. 27.1.6 >2 is a great answer for 'how do you feel about being born' I'm seeing the shape of 27.1.6 as the belly of the mother..and the mother being the receptive (2)
 
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Thank you for that interpretation, Trojan! 2. Receptive would be Mom, of course! Love it!
 

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I would be interested in knowing more about your experiences in remote viewing, fatequeen. How do you do it? What do you see? I read over on the projectcamelot.com site about people seeing things in great detail and also seeing future events. Interestingly the future events did not occur - Hilary becoming president was a major non event - and there was quite a bit of discussion about alternative timelines.

Thanks,
Rosada
 

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