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Pyramid

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Hello everybody :)

I just asked the Iching:
"What are X's feelings and intentions for me?"
and got 10.6 -> 58.

I am not gonna give any feedback, I have started to believe the Iching is super smart and a plain non-biased interpretation goes a long way ;)

So I would love to get your opinions ASAP.

Thanks and thanks,
Pyramid
 
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diamanda

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"What are X's feelings and intentions for me?"
and got 10.6 > 58.

In my experience with this combination, X wants to have some exchange or negotiation with you, but without first taking any of the preliminary steps which would lead towards it. It shows a bit of overconfidence, someone who can't be bothered with initial formalities.
 
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Pyramid

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GN diamanda,

Thanks for your reply, may I ask exchange of what? Feelings you mean?
 
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Pyramid

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Hah funny! Just to help I asked: "Does X like me?"
and I got 58uc!

What do you think?
 
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diamanda

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may I ask exchange of what? Feelings you mean?

I asked: "Does X like me?" and I got 58uc

In my own experience, I've never seen 58 being about feelings or joy - it's rather about bargaining, about making a practical deal with the other person. And quite an unsatisfactory deal, usually. He does want something from you, however what he wants is not romantic love and it's not a relationship. It's something more practical, although I can't tell what that could be.
 
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Pyramid

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diamanda,

Interesting! Many people (including me) put a lot of time consulting the oracle about relationships.
Though I never get a clear picture and a concrete answer, your interpretation on the other hand is one in a long time that shed lights on my doubts!

Imagine I asked the same question "Does S like me?" and I got 46.1.4.6 -> 14, how would you see this one?
 
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diamanda

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In your new question, I assume "S" is a different person? Or is it the same person as "X"?

Assuming S is a different person, yes S likes you. But at the same time, S is worried. S knows that he would like you more and more, but is apprehensive that a relationship between you would be a struggle (46:6).
 
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Pyramid

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Yes it is a different person :)
Here I am trying to figure out how to approach a casting since I cast about other ppl's feelings a lot!
 
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Pyramid

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Well! I figured out my next question ;)

"What does X want to exchange with me"?
I got 49.6 -> 13
So I am eager to read your ideas :)
 
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Pyramid

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Dear all,

A pity that no one has replied to this question yet. :confused: Today after 3 days I cast a reading with the exact same question ( because this guy shows up unexpectedly often in my life these days, and because given our history I cannot bring myself to treat him without caution):
"What does X want to exchange with me"?
I got 49.6 -> 13 again!!!!!!!

If you also find it surprising, please give me a feedback :)
 
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diamanda

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I always find it amazing when the I Ching does that.

What does X want to exchange with me? 49.6 > 13 (twice!)

Nothing you don't already know, he is not going to change. So, based on how he usually interacts with you, and on what he usually wants from you, this will continue to be the same as so far. Even if he appears to be a bit different, in fact this will be just a show. 13 speaks of being out there, in the world/society at large, and/or friendship.

Not knowing the details of your story with him, I can't say how all this applies to the situation, but maybe it rings a bell for you?
 
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Pyramid

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He enjoys weirdly to have my attention (no matter positive or negative) on him. To me is like, if he even knows I would be engaged by what he has been doing to me (good or wrong) he would feel satisfied.
And I am not kidding...
 
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Pyramid

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I just asked , how should I treat him?

Hex 54 -> 44.
So many changing lines :D

Diamanda! I appreciate your deep takes on castings. And I am thankful for your nice help in interpreting this. I am not so good at interpreting stuff, but well, oracles and fools are both needed :)))
 
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diamanda

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Still learning how to interpret an oracle doesn't make you a fool! If that was the case then we're all fools here ;)

if he even knows I would be engaged by what he has been doing to me (good or wrong) he would feel satisfied
This sounds like narcissistic disorder to me.
So he wants attention from you, and he gives you intensity/hope in return.

how should I treat him? 54.1.3.5.6 > 44

What a bizarre answer. It reads a bit like a very complicated love-triangle story. A woman accepts an inferior position, but still has the ability to do some minor tasks (54.1). She accepts to be the lover of someone who is already with someone else (54.3). The guy fancies the lover, but stays with his partner (54.5), even though there's no love between him and his partner (54.6). 44 shows that even if he does eventually split from his partner, the lover will never become a wife - she will remain a temporary lover.

So how should you treat him... it depends on what exactly you're after. If you're after an intense affair with him, then the advice is to accept an inferior position and just do whatever small things you can, and at some point you'll have the chance to become his lover. If this sort of thing is not what you're after, then I'd do the opposite of what's described (i.e. not accept an inferior position, not agree to be the lover of an already partnered man etc).

This would also explain why he's not willing to take any proper steps towards you (10.6) - because he doesn't want a proper relationship with you. It would also explain the unchanging 58 - what he wants from you is something practical (sex?*) but not anything more than that.

* 58 could possibly refer to testicles, see the second post on that page
 
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Pyramid

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Wow! I know that he is with a girl (which he never introduces properly as a girlfriend to the public).
I am not after anything from him, I tried to be friendly with him first but gradually realised he does not know what "friendship" means! So far in my life I have never been a "rel-crasher" ( and will stay so ;) ).
So basically and based on his unpleasant behaviour I started to ignore him gloriously (haha he was already given the chance for a healthy relationship).
Well just that, does not seem that he has really understood what is this all about, because he still is weird around ...
 
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Pyramid

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Ehm, IMHO it could be me putting him in an inferior social stand and watch him try (but well basically is what I already do, so to continue)???
 
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Pyramid

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"This sounds like narcissistic disorder to me.
So he wants attention from you, and he gives you intensity/hope in return."
Was simply awsome!!!
 
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Pyramid

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P.S: Diamanda, fools are merely "empty-minded". Nothing wrong with that :rofl:
 
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diamanda

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Ehm, IMHO it could be me putting him in an inferior social stand and watch him try (but well basically is what I already do, so to continue)???
I don't think that describes you, because you don't sound to me like a person who intends to have him on the side as a second-best, and then finally discard him.
Or... who knows, maybe he would like to be treated like that. There are many people who enjoy the master/slave scenario. However I must say that this scenario needs two similarly minded participants, so if you're not naturally thus inclined (in either of the two roles), I wouldn't go there.

So basically and based on his unpleasant behaviour I started to ignore him gloriously (haha he was already given the chance for a healthy relationship)
I believe what you're already doing is the best. He does sound very weird and I'm glad you already picked up on that. However, he doesn't seem to accept being ignored, and sounds like he's trying to fish you back into his game with his 'techniques'.

So to go back to "how should I treat him? 54.1.3.5.6 > 44", in short: treat him as the manipulative cheating 1diot that he is. OR, if you're inclined and know how to do this, play his game and treat him like (temporarily fanciable) dirt.
 
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Pyramid

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Nahhh! More exciting stuff in the basket :)

Thanks a lot diamanda!

I wish you and all our big circle of Iching-fans a very merry Christmas!
Off for now ;)
 
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diamanda

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Thank you Pyramid, and you too have a lovely Christmas!

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arbole

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I dont think its fair the way you are making the readings. With how hard its most of the times to clearly understand answers by the Yi, refering to ourselfs, how much harder its going to be asking things about others?? Even more, to judge others and say "Oh, this is that kind of person".
 
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diamanda

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What is not fair is to try to impose your own way of reading to others.

Please feel free to do your own readings in any way you feel is best - and let others do their readings in any way they feel best too.
 
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Pyramid

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Hi there arbole :)
If you take a look at the whole post, you might notice that the interpretations themselves actually do not hold any judgement on a person, they are plainly descriptive of a situation and how it unfolds. I tried to give the least history before our "conversation" part, and I would say I was astonished how precisely diamanda managed to describe what I had been witnessing and then go one layer down to give the bigger picture I was missing.
The rest is a friendly conversation between two fans which trust each other's observation ;)

Ah! and let me wish us all a wonderful 2017 :bows:
 
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Pyramid

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In your new question, I assume "S" is a different person? Or is it the same person as "X"?

Assuming S is a different person, yes S likes you. But at the same time, S is worried. S knows that he would like you more and more, but is apprehensive that a relationship between you would be a struggle (46:6).

Well after sooo much pondering and re-pondering about this question, I asked "What is the best personal attitude towards S?" and I got 38.1.3 -> 50.

I appreciate all friends' help :)
diamanda, I appreciate yours always :)
 

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