Filling out a longform application (job, school, etc) with Yi

[deflatormouse]

Hi!
I'm wondering if anyone here has answered a long form questionnaire (such as on an application for a job or school) by divining on all the questions, as though asking the oracle to fill it out for you. What was your experience with this?

I am doing something like that currently.
I question the wisdom in doing so because of course, I can be way off the mark in my interpretations (and frequently am). But after crafting and then scrapping multiple completely unrelated drafts, I asked Yi what it thought of my latest, which I was finally feeling somewhat confident in. And I replied to Yi's criticism with either a cheeky "you do it, then" or a resigned "what would you have me do??" or a bit of both.

This is definitely pretty risky. Who else has done it? I know I'm not the only one...

 

[canislulu]

Yes, I confess to being guilty of asking a bunch of little questions about each step of a process. It is not an efficient method and I do not recommend it. For me, it happens when I am afraid for some reason. But there is that saying, "The devil is in the details." What line from YI reflects that quote?

 

[rosada]

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[deflatormouse]

Yes, I confess to being guilty of asking a bunch of little questions about each step of a process. It is not an efficient method and I do not recommend it. For me, it happens when I am afraid for some reason.

I have done this also, and yes, most often from a position of fear and nervousness; asking a line of advantage-seeking questions in quick succession, having rapid-fire conversations with Yi in which I ask follow up questions based on what are often gross misinterpretations of Yi's previous response.
One of the ways in which this approach has been problematic for me personally is I end up with more hexagrams and lines than I can really manage. And lose track of which hexagrams and lines belong to which reading.

I guess I was asking more specifically, has anyone filled out an application or questionnaire this way, one that is going to be read by others who will use it to determine whether or not they hire you or accept you into their program (or grant you citizenship of the country you live in, a child or pet to adopt, etc).

In this case, I am applying for a part-time position, part of the application is a somewhat personal questionnaire, and so I have a fixed list of questions in front of me already, there is no option to revise the line of questioning in response to recieved hexagrams. And i am making it a point tp put these questions to Yi one at a time, spending hours or days wih each, moving on to the next question only once I feel I have a handle on what the previous one is telling me (or get completely stuck) to avoid confusing the readings. Can you tell that I'm trying to convince myself that this is somehow responsible?

But there is that saying, "The devil is in the details." What line from YI reflects that quote?

It's funny because in this case, i think Yi is doing the opposite... Compared to the way I was answering the questions. It's having me take a step back from the trees so I can see the forest. For example I was talking about a couple of specific memories and attempting to define how they might have shaped me. Yi told me (i think) to just describe that process of excavating my past for the clues, without getting into any of the detail. Don't write the memories or what you think they mean, instead take a step back, Just talk about deliberately rummaging through the past this way, leave it at that...

 

[Liselle]

I've done this several times with different types of forms, and have gotten useful and sometimes crucially important help.

Yi once saved me from making a truly horrible mistake (bless it), and I think I remember a reading which got me to discover typos or something small like that.

I remember one time in particular when I was badly bogged down ("stuck," as you said), for no good reason - Yi was happy to point that out and encourage me to move along. (If I remember correctly, those readings included some form of 47 - I was becoming "exhausted" and "oppressing" myself. All it meant was to stop it and go on to the next question(s).)

Once I was applying for a job out of fear that something was happening to my current job (which I'm quite happy with). At the very beginning, Yi tried to get across that there was no need for this. But I didn't listen and proceeded anyway, and Yi still helped me with it, even though I didn't heed the original advice.

So i'd say my experiences have been quite positive.

Off the top of my head (without analyzing each situation's batch of readings, which I don't have time to do right now), it's probably best to try distinguishing between readings done before answering particular questions ("best approach to this item?") vs. ones asking for editing help after drafting an answer. I believe I've had success both ways, but one might be better than the other in a particular circumstance. It might be more efficient to think about that ahead of time.

Good luck!

 

[Liselle]

BTW I think I'd run screaming from any job application which asked me to unburden my life to strangers via a form, in the context of applying for part-time work. Good lord. (Although I suppose it depends what kind of job it is.)

 

[deflatormouse]

I've done this several times with different types of forms, and have gotten useful and sometimes crucially important help.

Yi once saved me from making a truly horrible mistake (bless it), and I think I remember a reading which got me to discover typos or something small like that.

I remember one time in particular when I was badly bogged down ("stuck," as you said), for no good reason - Yi was happy to point that out and encourage me to move along. (If I remember correctly, those readings included some form of 47 - I was becoming "exhausted" and "oppressing" myself. All it meant was to stop it and go on to the next question(s).)

Hi Lisa! Thanks so much for sharing these experiences, I have to say this is all in incredible synchronicity to what i've been going through these last days. Maybe I'm not completely out of my mind after all... I was about to make a horrible mistake (excessively unburdening myself to strangers via a form, in response to some fairly open-ended questions).
I had composed, and then scrapped, several versions which were all pretty well crafted and articulate, but each time I had this sense that something was horribly amiss - which Yi confirmed in the end. I also was stuck for no good reason at all. Because it's not that I didn't know where to start. My problem, I see now, is that I didn't know where to stop.

So before I started filling out the current (final!) draft, I did another reading asking how to best approach the application (i think it was 15.1) and then promptly wrote up another draft and asked whether I was on the right track now! The answer to that included a phrase which according to Bradford's matrix can be interpreted as "failing at Yi"!!!

Anyhow, now I've filled out all the questions on the form together with Yi (still working one of the questions/readings out, actually, but otherwise pretty confident in my interpretations this time - and halfway through I asked how I was doing at it, just to be sure).

Off the top of my head (without analyzing each situation's batch of readings, which I don't have time to do right now), it's probably best to try distinguishing between readings done before answering particular questions ("best approach to this item?") vs. ones asking for editing help after drafting an answer. I believe I've had success both ways, but one might be better than the other in a particular circumstance. It might be more efficient to think about that ahead of time.

It took me a minute to understand this because I have been literally filling in my interpretation of the reading on each question as the answer on the application form, not even using it as a jumping-off point!
And punctuating those with the one "just making sure I'm still having the same conversation as you?" question... and those definitely aren't my favorite. I think of Carol Anthony's whole thing of asking essentially yes/no follow-up questions on a reading by casting a single line; for better or worse (probably better) this uncertainty over how to interpret a reading doesn't usually feel worthy of doing another reading: "sorry I don't have time to really listen right now, would you mind saying that again louder?" In drafting my own version of the answers I'm not terribly concerned over the precise wording, maybe a little more over the tone, the language... keeping it simple, direct, not too flowery - keeping the verbosity and Ciceronian sentence structure in check. I may or may not ask a "submit it like this?" question when I'm done... I really feel I don't need it, I already have a reading about something like this (15.1), and even that reading is probably surplus...

I have to say, I never would have thought to fill out the questions this way, but they all ring very true. It's like if the mature version of me that doesn't exist yet had come from the future to fill it out for me; Yi has made me much, much more presentable without being in any way dishonest, distorting my abilities, promising anything or really even saying anything much about myself at all (near-invisibility).