Finding the reason

[jesed]

HI Zeldiac

Just in case the comment could be useful

When I had been in situations like yours, I didn't ask "why" but "how".

How should I face this situation?

Hopefuly, you could find more inlightment with this kind of aproach.

Best wishes

 

[zeldiac]

A small amount of progress has been made on my stalking problem in the past week. The various legally involved parties have stepped up their activity.

I've been thinking quite a lot about my own input in trying to get this crime solved. And about my continuing joint efforts with those trying to help me. It prompted me to ask another question of the oracle.

I asked how I could best resolve the harassment problem.

I got 20 and relating 18. I understand the implications of 20, and the changing lines of 2,3,5. But... of 18. How would any of you interpret 18? I'm unsure. If you are all getting fed up of this, feel free to ignore me!

Zelda

 

[bruce]

Hi Zelda,

Glad to hear you?re making progress with your case.

18 seems like what you and law enforcement are already doing to resolve the matter. 20 is seeing and being seen, and also how you see and are seen, as reflected in your change lines. It appears to me that your lines are offering you choices: to live in a small, limited way, to be visible or invisible or somewhere in-between. Only you can determine this, just as each of us do. Perhaps there is a clue here in examining where and when you may have exposed yourself (been seen) by the one who is stalking you, and even possible ways to avoid that in the future. I don?t know, but it?s a thought. A 20 kind of thought?

 

[zeldiac]

Thanks Bruce. You seem to have really tuned into my situation. From the case that is building, I'm beginning to think my stalker(s) probably had one of only two ways of selecting me.

Although I predominatly work in isolation, I do get called on periodically to present at seminars and events. People at such events are all middle to high income, with a common business interest. That's one possible way although I haven't been harassed at any events. The second way is maybe somebody who's seen or met me socially? All food for thought anyway. Contemplation is the key I'm sure.

Best wishes
Zelda

 

[zeldiac]

And a p.s. here.

That one very odd client I've thought about since posting, got me to his premises on 2 occasions beyond normal terms and conditions. Also, on one occasion a really bad thing happened. His receptionist locked me in - she said it was accidentally - but now I look back I'm beginning to read it differently. The client took obvious glee in unlocking the place and letting me out. Maybe this sounds a bit over the top, but it's all come back to me clearly. And I was working towards a seminar presentation for him. Too spooky.

Zelda

 

[bruce]

Precisely the type of lead that's worth following up on, though I wouldn't draw firm conclusions, yet.

Stay safe and good luck.

 

[zeldiac]

I think so too, thanks
Zelda

 

[zeldiac]

Here I am again asking for your help, please

Some additional information turned up on the stalking crime in the past two days. It looks fairly promising in that it might help to uncover the person 'pulling the strings' of the known stalker. Hope that makes sense.

I asked how likely is it that the person will soon be uncovered. I got a primary of 30 with changing 3 & 6. (I also got 51 as relating, and this is what I kind of expected. That I am prepared to be shocked).

I've read up about 30 and think I interpret it positively and being likely I will get the information. But what do the changes signify? I think they conflict with one another and I don't know how to quantify them.

As ever - thanks in advance to anyone who wants to reply to this continued posting.

Best wishes
Zelda

 

[void]

Hi Zelda, line 6 of 30 seems to me to indicate these people will indeed soon be caught. This line also counsels 'it is best to kill the leaders and take captive the followers' (Wilhelm) Again this confirms there is more than one person involved and when the one who is instigating it all is caught the other is less harmful and warrants a milder punishment. I confess I'm at a loss with line 3 here ? Sometimes the Yi is so literal - an older man, a man who hates getting older, a moaning old man ? Maybe just the movement from 30 to 51 is all we need look at - the perpetrators are suddenly bought to light ?

Heres hoping they are soon out of your life !

 

[bruce]

I do Yi readings for $1000 each, but am having a 99.9% off sale this week, Zelda. (joke)

Just a hunch, but I think Yi is saying to go on living. Hold on to what you can trust. Regarding the stalker, give a strong priority to it, but don't let it run your life. Living in perpetual shock won't help.

 

[bruce]

Void's interpretation makes sense to me too.

 

[bruce]

Void, line 3 has come up a few times on this board. From what I gather, it can be interpreted as old guys who are desperate to preserve their youth; with the council being to foster dignity. The other is just the opposite. It says not to stop living just because old age is arriving. I can see how both meanings could apply equally well, depending.

 

[bruce]

With 30, there is always the chance to increase understanding (illuminating your world), and always the chance to miss it.

Just what that increased understanding is, in this case, is hard to tell. 30 includes the image of a net, which could certainly mean capturing something or someone.

 

[zeldiac]

Hi Bruce and Void

Both of you are of great help. Thanks for the 99.9% discount... how many UK sterling pounds I'll have to calculate...

Today I've had even more positive news from my legal people. Looks like a net really is closing in - and quite fast.

Help has also come in from other sources, and unexpectedly too. This makes me see that the image of a net is very accurate. Without a doubt there are more people involved in this stalking crime than either I or my legal associates would have believed.

So the reading I got is actually more positive than I had anticipated.

You're quite right too - I don't let this thing put my life on hold. I worry a lot, but I keep a smile on my face and a quiet confidence that I will come out stronger from it all.

Best wishes
Zelda

 

[bruce]

Zelda, if it turns out you're some famous celebrity, I'll accept your autograph in place of the .. let's see, pounds conversion... well, whatever it comes to.

Good news on the closing net front. Keep us informed. When he's captured, we'll all forward our spam mail to his addy!

 

[zeldiac]

Celebrity... now there's a thing...

Great idea about the spam - I'm up for that, and anything else to bother the guy(s) who've been upsetting my life.

I'll keep you informed of further developments.

Here's my autograph to be going on with!
Zelda

 

[void]

Thanx Bruce for elucidating on that line. I guess it refers to old women too ?

beating on our cooking pots and complaining about the pains in our joints. Should we stay by the fire with our bowl of broth or shall we set the town alight ? (I think I prefer to stay by the fire)

Zelda glad to hear things are looking up, keep us posted.

 

[zeldiac]

It's me again!

Another development today. I've got an opportunity, (I think) of getting some solid information about the stalker the police identified. Not getting the information via the police, but legally elsewhere. Although it could be rather complicated getting what I want. Does that make sense? The issue for me is that the main stalker has been identified, but he remains free and continues harassing me. The law has to work within certain boundaries etc...

Based on my instinct to go ahead, I asked the question: What is the general diagnosis on getting the information if I use this means?

I got 55 with changing line 1, relating 62. Apart from being unsure about the flying bird (a plane?) I took the reading as telling me to proceed.

I asked a subsequent question: how wise am I to proceed right away?

The reading has confused me a little bit.

Primary 49 (Revolution) with changing line 1, relating 31 (Influence).

Help on changing line 1 would be welcome from you experienced people please. What is signified by the hide of a yellow cow?

best wishes to you all
Zelda

 

[jesed]

Hi Zelda

Just in case the comment could be useful

Among others meanings: Yellow is wisdom; the cow is docility.

Line 1 advice: if you need to take a revolutionary task, you should wait until the right moment (circunstances). To achieve that, you need to restrain yourself (get tied; get hidden) by a perseverant wisdom (or by a wise perseverance).

The point is: proceding this way is an extraordinary path; only under extraordinary circunstances and in propper time should be done. (general sense of hex 49). One shouldn't use this revolutionary ways unless there is no other way to achieve the same goal. And even if there is no other way, before act you should reflex if is the right moment to act, because an unwise action would have bad consecuences (line 1)

Best wishes

 

[bruce]

Hi Zelda,

It appears highly favorable to continue working together with these contacts who are uncovering the details of your case.

However, your second reading stresses the importance of not getting ahead of yourself. Molting happens only when the time is ready, and not before. Meanwhile, you?ll have to bear the discomfort of the situation; hopefully with patience and endurance. On your own appointed day you shall have your fresh, new beginning.

Sounds very hopeful from here. Just be patient and stay in your skin until the time is right.

 

[zeldiac]

It's been good to read your responses to my latest enquiry. I am learning so much from your opinions and interpretations. They are clear and make sense.

The past few days have been stressful for me. I've been coordinating a very public event a long way from home. It put me directly before hundreds of people. I was thinking all the time 'which stalker(s) are watching me?'.

I've had more information come through from my recent legal contact. I'm hopeful to get more soon. In the meantime I'm as watchful as ever.

Best wishes to all
Zelda

 

[zeldiac]

On 9th January I posted in this thread about my reading of primary 30 & relating 51. My enquiry was that I'd wanted to know if the perpetrators of the crimes against me would soon be uncovered.

The general feedback was that I would soon get what I wanted. And would probably be quite shocked by the details.

Yesterday, I received a huge part of the information I was looking for. I am completely shocked by it. But very relieved to have it. There is more information due to come to me imminently.

The very frightening discovery is that the main stalker is known to me. But by a false name to that known by the police. I met him very briefly at just two social occasions. He made no impression on me, and was someone I've never thought about since the second time I met him. The guy is obviously very sick. My only vague thought at the second time of meeting him was that he seemed to be persistent in getting me to talk to him. But he was very boring to me, so I politely moved on to other social attendees.

This is not the end of the crime, but a good move ahead. Many other facets of the crime are still outstanding. But what a revelation.

As a newcomer to the value of IChing, this has been one amazing route of discovery. And to have such generous support from my fellow community members is truly heart warming.

A huge thanks to you all as ever - Bruce especially!

Zelda

 

[bruce]

Zelda, you are being too generous.

Very happy to hear you are making progress. Let's hope it is resolved quickly.

 

[peace]

Hi Zelda;

This certainly seems like a step in the right direction for you.

I went back to your original casting:
20.2.3.5 to 18.

20 is about contemplation and the lines distinguish between looking outward and inward.

20.2 - Limited outlook, looking too much within.
Clearly, you looked within and from what you're saying - you racked your brains for something you may have contributed and it turned out it was something external with no contribution from you.

20.3 - A transition line - transition from naive thinking, accompanied by not knowing which way to go.
It sounds like this experience, as unfortunate and horrible as it is, has made you less naive.

20.6 - The importance of watching people's responses.
From what you said, I don't know if there was anything you could have done when this guy started talking to you - but what you did do, which was walk away. This reinforces that you trusted your instincts.

As for 30 changing to 51.....
Light and clarity (simplification) got you answers from yourself and others - leading to shock! You certainly seemed shocked that this strange guy who you don't even know and hardly interracted with is the stalker.

Quite creepy. I know you're on the right track and hopefully this creep will be apprehended soon.

Keep us informed.
Rosalie

 

[zeldiac]

Things are looking up. It appears I'm on the right track to finding out who the real stalker is.

A name has come up repeatedly during past days within the various legal circles helping me. The worst thing of all is that the person named is a former client whom I held in the very highest regard. He was one of my favourite business people of all time and I really respected him.

This is not yet fully confirmed by the legal people, but strongly favourable to be the outcome.

I asked of the Yi what is the general diagnosis on him having done this terrible thing to me?

I got primary 26 changing line 5, with relating 9. What does a gelded boar (line 5) represent?

best wishes to you all
Zelda

 

[frank]

Hi Zelda,

To me it looks like a ?gelded boar? is someone taken in control... It could be that the stalker (the gelded boar) is caught or at least put down so much that he (she?) can?t do much harm... I realy hope for you that I?m right, but I do not know for shure ofcourse, and I will kill myself if this is only false hope... But it seems like there is someone put down...

Hang in there!

Hug,
Frank

 

[void]

Agreeing with Frank. You had 26, 1 and 3 a while ago with regard to this didn't you ? Seems the hexagrams progressing as you get nearer your solution. A potentially dagerous force is rendered harmless, its 'tusks are removed'. I hope that is the case for sure.

(ps Frank I hope you do not kill yourself if you are wrong. Why not just spank yourself instead like you usually do

)

 

[bruce]

 

[jesed]

Hi Zeldiac

First, sorry for my poor English; maybe I understood wrong your question.

If I understood well, your questions was something like: "Is x the stalker?"

If this is correct, for me 26.5 is like: he is inofensive even if he seems to be dangerous.

Application for your question: even if he looks to be the stalker, he is doing nothing bad to you (he is not). This is how I would read your answer, if the questions was to know if X is or not the stalker

Best wishes

 

[zeldiac]

Thanks for your input everyone. Frank, I agree with Void, don't kill yourself on my account!

The gelded boar theories sounds about right. Watch this space as the saying goes for anything more that transpires. I feel the end is in sight for this bad situation.

Best wishes
Zelda