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Firm correctness
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Candida,
Firm means it never changes, nor weakens, nor bends. Correctness means doing what is right. Not so and so right, but really what is correct.
So: always do the right thing...
But what is right? well, no purpose in asking anyone else but yourself. Listen to your inner voice (yeah, that nagging little voice that always seems to spoil all the fun). Deep down you already know, dont you?
Firm means it never changes, nor weakens, nor bends. Correctness means doing what is right. Not so and so right, but really what is correct.
So: always do the right thing...
But what is right? well, no purpose in asking anyone else but yourself. Listen to your inner voice (yeah, that nagging little voice that always seems to spoil all the fun). Deep down you already know, dont you?
Hi Pedro,
Yeah, you're right about that nagging little voice spoiling all the fun!!!!
Doing the right thing does seem to be an appropriate answer here, but when you said, " doing what is right, it never changes weakens or bends", is faith a part of this, or a requirement or am I looking too deep into it all? I was just told by my new sister-in law of 3 days that I am unique what ever she meant by that. I am considered eccentric, not all eccentrics are deep but they may be unique.
Yeah, you're right about that nagging little voice spoiling all the fun!!!!
Doing the right thing does seem to be an appropriate answer here, but when you said, " doing what is right, it never changes weakens or bends", is faith a part of this, or a requirement or am I looking too deep into it all? I was just told by my new sister-in law of 3 days that I am unique what ever she meant by that. I am considered eccentric, not all eccentrics are deep but they may be unique.
I understand what you mean by unique, and find it great for you, but face the facts: we are all unique. There's nothing special about being unique. If someone wasnt unique, now that would be a great deal. The point is using our uniqueness in the way it is intended, that is, really being yourself. Not what is expected of you, not what you think others want you to look, but what you really feel that you must be and do.
And what is that you may ask? well, if you find out let me know, as Im searching the same. But I imagine deep down the rebel in you knows already. Just let yourself BE!
About faith, what can be achieved without it? Faith in god, faith in yourself... But faith is not something you convince yourself you have. Its not an intelectual function. If you have it, you dont have to ask. If you dont, then asking is not the way either. Feeling is a much better alternative, as faith comes from the heart, nowhere else.
But once you really feel it, then firm correctenes will become your middle name
And what is that you may ask? well, if you find out let me know, as Im searching the same. But I imagine deep down the rebel in you knows already. Just let yourself BE!
About faith, what can be achieved without it? Faith in god, faith in yourself... But faith is not something you convince yourself you have. Its not an intelectual function. If you have it, you dont have to ask. If you dont, then asking is not the way either. Feeling is a much better alternative, as faith comes from the heart, nowhere else.
But once you really feel it, then firm correctenes will become your middle name
ah, how did you get to be so wise Pedro? and I am not being faceious by saying it. Thank you for your kindness and words of wisdom. By the way Pedro, I forget which hex it is, but one of them speaks about the royal culprits guilt, whatever does this mean?
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I?m familiar with Wilhelm, but never heard about the royal culprits' guilt.
Pedro, I believe I understand what you're saying about firm correctness, and for the most part, I agree with you. I do think we may differ somewhat that firm correctness is a thing in and of itself. True correctness is, being open and available to being led, as well as standing alone without changing, or moving with determination. It just depends upon the time. Times change and with it, its demands.
In my opinion, faith has little to do with it. One can have great faith and still be very much in the wrong. People strap bombs onto their chest and kill other innocent people, all in the name of what they believe to be 'firm in correctness'.
The same could be said for listening to inner voices. Mass murderers listen to their inner voices also.
The only way to know whether we are standing firm in correctness is by the fruit we produce, by the evidence of our thoughts and actions. Life produces life. Positive thoughts and actions produce positive results.
So, as far as getting firm correctness, Candida, look to the results of your words and actions. If these are life-giving and supports the truth behind appearances, its pretty safe to say, you are standing firm in correctness. This doesn't mean that every right word or action will produce immediate positive results. Its only after completion that you can look back upon the results of your words and actions, and determine whether you stood in firm correctness. I personally, have always found room for improvement.
Candid
Pedro, I believe I understand what you're saying about firm correctness, and for the most part, I agree with you. I do think we may differ somewhat that firm correctness is a thing in and of itself. True correctness is, being open and available to being led, as well as standing alone without changing, or moving with determination. It just depends upon the time. Times change and with it, its demands.
In my opinion, faith has little to do with it. One can have great faith and still be very much in the wrong. People strap bombs onto their chest and kill other innocent people, all in the name of what they believe to be 'firm in correctness'.
The same could be said for listening to inner voices. Mass murderers listen to their inner voices also.
The only way to know whether we are standing firm in correctness is by the fruit we produce, by the evidence of our thoughts and actions. Life produces life. Positive thoughts and actions produce positive results.
So, as far as getting firm correctness, Candida, look to the results of your words and actions. If these are life-giving and supports the truth behind appearances, its pretty safe to say, you are standing firm in correctness. This doesn't mean that every right word or action will produce immediate positive results. Its only after completion that you can look back upon the results of your words and actions, and determine whether you stood in firm correctness. I personally, have always found room for improvement.
Candid
Candid, those are some really interesting points, I couldnt agree more (Candida, now here's a truly wise man
notice he is not bouncing around like myself?).
I tend to disregard what is already common sense to me, and by that I may mislead someone else who isnt "into my head". Your point about being led by the times is of the most importance (incidentally, anyone remebers where the Yi says something like the wise man adapts himself to the demands of the time?)
Your views on faith are also thought provoking. I wonder, in the example of the bomber, what will be god's view of it. Intention is more important than action, dont you agree? and these persons believe they are acting for the supreme good. Where I think their logic fails is in not taking in account that the murder of inocents is always wrong, no matter what the intention behind it. So we cannot do wrong on account of "god's will". God will never want anything like that.
As for listening to your inner voice, once again I was thinking of common folks as opposed to serial killers
I think the point is which really is our genuine inner voice. Probably the inner voice that tells us to comit wrong deeds is not really the inner voice, but some ego driven voice, which usually speaks louder...
I think no matter what, even if we're not psychopats, we always have a strong urge to fool ourselfs, and if we are not careful, we may realise that even our alleged good intentions have the mere purpose of fulfilling our egos. As a rule of thumb, if one acts with some reward in mind, then one is pursuing the ego, not acting for good (we should always 25:2)
But then Re: "look to the results of your words and actions" - YES! 10:6
I tend to disregard what is already common sense to me, and by that I may mislead someone else who isnt "into my head". Your point about being led by the times is of the most importance (incidentally, anyone remebers where the Yi says something like the wise man adapts himself to the demands of the time?)
Your views on faith are also thought provoking. I wonder, in the example of the bomber, what will be god's view of it. Intention is more important than action, dont you agree? and these persons believe they are acting for the supreme good. Where I think their logic fails is in not taking in account that the murder of inocents is always wrong, no matter what the intention behind it. So we cannot do wrong on account of "god's will". God will never want anything like that.
As for listening to your inner voice, once again I was thinking of common folks as opposed to serial killers
I think no matter what, even if we're not psychopats, we always have a strong urge to fool ourselfs, and if we are not careful, we may realise that even our alleged good intentions have the mere purpose of fulfilling our egos. As a rule of thumb, if one acts with some reward in mind, then one is pursuing the ego, not acting for good (we should always 25:2)
But then Re: "look to the results of your words and actions" - YES! 10:6
For Louise Pedro and all,
Thanks so much for the insight, and I agree with you that firm correctness has to do with the actions of our words and thoughts more than faith.
Well said ya all. Louise, yes it was hex 43 that I didn't understand. If you have any idea about it please let me know. Thanks
Thanks so much for the insight, and I agree with you that firm correctness has to do with the actions of our words and thoughts more than faith.
Well said ya all. Louise, yes it was hex 43 that I didn't understand. If you have any idea about it please let me know. Thanks