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firehorse

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Hello All,

Haven't been here in years, certain things happen in your life, and you find yourself returning to known comforts I guess. I asked about the general diagnosis of my 4-yr relationship with a man I live with and love, but we are having some difficulties. In short, I wonder if we are going to survive. The response is 58.5 > 54. In searching, there seems to be many different perspectives, from references to stripping away old ideas to this being a non-sustainable relationship. I'm curious to hear what others think about 58.5, looking for some background/insight.

Thanks!
 

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Cleary says there is danger in trusting "usurpers." Another author warns against "dangerous thinkers." Legge says the line shows its subject "trusting in one who would injure him. The situation is perilous."

Blofeld says that "faith in what is disintegrating leads to trouble." Then he adds, "However, this line is suited to its position (hence the trouble will hardly amount to much)."

Hilary urges you to ask, "Where are you placing your trust, and why?"

It does seem to be a line indicating misplaced trust. Have you thoroughly considered the deeper character of the one you love? You know how it is: Love is blind.
 

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Ginnie,

How would you reframe your answer with knowing that I recognize I do have trust issues, i.e. fear that drives me to have "plan B" in place should this not work out. He, similarly, has issues that have that have prevented him from legally "committing" to the relationship, although he states that he is thoroughly and completely committed. Could the trust actually be "mistrust?" Our mistrust is misplaced?

Alternatively, we have sought counselling together. Are we placing too much trust in counseling what we should be able to work through ourserves?
 
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Hi Firehorse,

I could be wrong but I see it as mistrust being misplaced. An example is (Jane and John accuse each other of having affairs but there's really no affair on either part.) But if they continue with this mistrust they will eventually have a reason not to trust. I see that in line 5, but I could be wrong.

58- I see as advising open communication and pleasure, (two lakes joined together) make love...

I hope everything works out for the best.

Blue_Angel
 

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In 58.5 something is deteriorating or being stripped away. If I were you, I'd stay alert to any signs of something like that happening ...
 
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blue_angel

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Firehorse ,

I would really take a look at the reading for yourself and go with what feels right or consult again. I say this because as Ginnie stated above "the trouble will hardly amount to much" I have read this in more than one translation. The other thing Ginnie stated above is "dangerous thinkers". In the translations I read, it seems to be advising that your doubt and mistrust can be in your own mind. Some translations even suggest "against" stripping away because of this. So, I worry here that if this is the case, then the wrong advice could double the bad that's already going on.

Blue_Angel
 
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