Going after a new job opportunity? 46.6 -> 18

[evas]

Dear all,
I have been offered an interesting job offer at a different company other than my current workplace, however i am being hesitant abut quiting my current job since i fear of loosing part of contacts, reputation and good relations which i would need anyhow for continuing in my career path with this new job (since i would be more or less condemned for quiting my current job by some important and influential people i think)... There are also other things i fear especially plunging into the unknow waters, but on the other hand i feel like leaving my current job would be (hopefully) a very much liberating thing for me since i am not very happy with the atmosphere there... So I asked i ching, if it is benefitial for me to take on this new challenge and apply for this offer? I got hexagram 46.6 changing into hex 18. I already have some modest explanations and interpretations, but since i feel a bit overemotional about the whole thing right now I would very much appreciate some help with this reading, since i might misinterpret it at the moment. Thank you very much in advance for your tips and thoughts on interpreting Save (Evas):bows:

 

[taoscopy]

if it is benefitial for me to take on this new challenge and apply for this offer? I got hexagram 46.6 changing into hex 18

Sorry, at first glance, it does not look interesting.

If you want to know more about this question, then you can ask the follow-up questions:

What knowledge? (from 46)
What are the most embarrassing flaws? (from 18)

46 - Formation

One is guided until they reach knowledge.

6 - One has to return because nothing will be found.
In the making
18 - Disorder

One needs to abandon their affairs and make themself available to patiently soften their most embarrassing flaws, in order to be able to inspire trust and be engaged by those who can help them.

 

[evas]

So you think it is not as promising as it seems at first glance?vthe mebarrassing flaw could be i might not be as much of an deal candidate for this job as the new employer thinks? Maybe...

 

[taoscopy]

At this point, we don't even know if 18 is about you, so it's too early to say.

 

[ginnie]

46.6 speaks of a rather blind advance, as if climbing a mountain in the dark. Blind progress, but you are bound to suffer materially, perhaps for the reasons you posted above.

 

[Tim K]

Your question is not very specific, so the answer is rather general as well.

LiSe, 46.6:
When your path leads you outside of known boundaries, nobody can tell you what to do. You have to find your own path, without example, so you need eyes that can see in the dark, a nose that can follow faint scents, feet that can move in slippery terrain and a mind that can imagine the unthinkable. And utter stamina.

You will advance to new territory, new job/work (Huang calls 18 'Work').
18 is about letting old decay and something new to come in.
As you said - Plunging into unknown waters, having to lose connections and friends, leaving the old behind.

You decide is it beneficial or not.
It's not a good practice to ask y/n question, try something like 'How will I benefit from [applying to this job]?'. Or '[I'm thinking about switching jobs], please comment on that.'

 

[evas]

First of all thank you for you insightful thoughts. So i asked iching as you recommended another more specific question: how will i benefit from this new job? I got hexagram 50.2> 56. The thing is i just applied for it, then maybe if they chose me i will get a chance for an interview and then wait and see. Hoever since the last time I have posted to this thread, circumstances at my job have gotten completely unbearable and I find it very hard to go to work and fullfil all my bosses directions. I have a very strong aversion towards his work morals. I also asked i ching what shall i expect if i stay ar my current job and got hex 8.1.3.6> 37. I more or less understand the first part it which describes my feelings towards non functioning leadership in my current work but I do not understand how this should lead me back to my family roots? Or maybe fighting for what i was raised as a honest person with a good sound morale (not the morale of my current work atmosphere). Thanks. save

Your question is not very specific, so the answer is rather general as well.

LiSe, 46.6:
When your path leads you outside of known boundaries, nobody can tell you what to do. You have to find your own path, without example, so you need eyes that can see in the dark, a nose that can follow faint scents, feet that can move in slippery terrain and a mind that can imagine the unthinkable. And utter stamina.

You will advance to new territory, new job/work (Huang calls 18 'Work').
18 is about letting old decay and something new to come in.
As you said - Plunging into unknown waters, having to lose connections and friends, leaving the old behind.

You decide is it beneficial or not.
It's not a good practice to ask y/n question, try something like 'How will I benefit from [applying to this job]?'. Or '[I'm thinking about switching jobs], please comment on that.'

 

[Trojina]

Dear all,
I have been offered an interesting job offer at a different company other than my current workplace, however i am being hesitant abut quiting my current job since i fear of loosing part of contacts, reputation and good relations which i would need anyhow for continuing in my career path with this new job (since i would be more or less condemned for quiting my current job by some important and influential people i think)... There are also other things i fear especially plunging into the unknow waters, but on the other hand i feel like leaving my current job would be (hopefully) a very much liberating thing for me since i am not very happy with the atmosphere there.

.. So I asked i ching, if it is benefitial for me to take on this new challenge and apply for this offer? I got hexagram 46.6 changing into hex 18. I already have some modest explanations and interpretations,

but since i feel a bit overemotional about the whole thing right now I would very much appreciate some help with this reading, since i might misinterpret it at the moment. Thank you very much in advance for your tips and thoughts on interpreting Save (Evas):bows:

46.6 here indicates you are pressing upwards in to unknown territory. At such times when you cannot see where you are going it is important to keep faith. I don't agree with Ginnie that this means you must suffer materially because of this. The line isn't promising you anything, it's saying basically you have to grow upwards with faith you are headed in the right direction just through sensing it. People have various views of this line but my take is this is advise not to give up because you can't see where you are going. Do it anyway. There was no real need to ask follow up questions but as you have I will look at those too.

So i asked iching as you recommended another more specific question: how will i benefit from this new job? I got hexagram 50.2> 56. The thing is i just applied for it, then maybe if they chose me i will get a chance for an interview and then wait and see. Hoever since the last time I have posted to this thread, circumstances at my job have gotten completely unbearable and I find it very hard to go to work and fullfil all my bosses directions. I have a very strong aversion towards his work morals. I also asked i ching what shall i expect if i stay ar my current job and got hex 8.1.3.6> 37. I more or less understand the first part it which describes my feelings towards non functioning leadership in my current work but I do not understand how this should lead me back to my family roots? Or maybe fighting for what i was raised as a honest person with a good sound morale (not the morale of my current work atmosphere).

How will you benefit from the new job ? Well you don't even know if you got it yet so how can we use this answer. You see I think your 46.6 was encouraging you to keep on keeping on. It was encouraging you to keep applying for things, keep looking. Even if you don't get thi sjob you may get another. You may become discouraged because it is so hard to see where you are going. This is what 46.6 says

'In the dark, pushing upward.
Fruitful with unceasing constancy.' (Hilary's book)

so you can see this is what you must do. However dark it is you keep reaching for the light as a seed might under the ground.

So following from that 50.2 ? Hmm it doesn't seem a direct answer, possibly because you haven't yet got the job yet. It advises that others may not approve and aim to discourage you but they cannot impact on you. I don't know how that would apply ? At least this line does say you have something of real value that others may envy but they cannot harm you. So I'd say this line encourages you to hold on to your own sense of self worth.

Staying in your current job 8.1.3.6>37 ? It appears as if it is no longer feasible to hold together with these people as it is now. The 37 here may simply refer to the organisation you are with. When lines 1 and 6 move I think the whole scenario of hexagram 8 here has played out and 37 is what is now coming through. I'm wondering if this is just a bad time and in fact the old order of things will soon collapse leaving a more sympathetic person in charge ? Hard to say really. All I do know here is that the current situation cannot stay as it is. In 8.6 it all falls apart, there is not enough cohesion. Yet in 37 there is good order and cohesion. So if you think there is any chance someone else may usurp your boss then stay around because things look set to change there. However if you see no possible change at all it may describe you leaving. I think if you do leave you find a good solid structured organisation to work for where you fit in, where you belong(37). Perhaps that 37, which can describe any cohesive working functional unit or group, is your new job ?


Keep your 46.6 in mind though. I think that reading is important to take with you.

 

[Tim K]

I see 50.2 as you will find a safe spot, without conflicting moral ideals, a more free and enjoyable workplace.

About 8-37, I agree with Trojina. These are not the right people for you (.3), you should find more compatible group to work with (.1), with common interests/ideals (.6).

 

[evas]

Dear Trojina, thank you very much, I see now it makes all sense to me!!! I think my boss will stay where he is and it is me who will have to go. Its just me inside feeling hard to let go because i have invested so much time abd personal interest and hard work at this current workplace but hopefull something better where i feel just right awaits (hex.37) - i love the thought of it . I will keep you guys updated on how it plays out, till then i will really have to live up to my full worth and not let myself by torn down by the mistreatment of my boss ... Thanks a lot really!!:bows::bows:

46.6 here indicates you are pressing upwards in to unknown territory. At such times when you cannot see where you are going it is important to keep faith. I don't agree with Ginnie that this means you must suffer materially because of this. The line isn't promising you anything, it's saying basically you have to grow upwards with faith you are headed in the right direction just through sensing it. People have various views of this line but my take is this is advise not to give up because you can't see where you are going. Do it anyway. There was no real need to ask follow up questions but as you have I will look at those too.



How will you benefit from the new job ? Well you don't even know if you got it yet so how can we use this answer. You see I think your 46.6 was encouraging you to keep on keeping on. It was encouraging you to keep applying for things, keep looking. Even if you don't get thi sjob you may get another. You may become discouraged because it is so hard to see where you are going. This is what 46.6 says

'In the dark, pushing upward.
Fruitful with unceasing constancy.' (Hilary's book)

so you can see this is what you must do. However dark it is you keep reaching for the light as a seed might under the ground.

So following from that 50.2 ? Hmm it doesn't seem a direct answer, possibly because you haven't yet got the job yet. It advises that others may not approve and aim to discourage you but they cannot impact on you. I don't know how that would apply ? At least this line does say you have something of real value that others may envy but they cannot harm you. So I'd say this line encourages you to hold on to your own sense of self worth.

Staying in your current job 8.1.3.6>37 ? It appears as if it is no longer feasible to hold together with these people as it is now. The 37 here may simply refer to the organisation you are with. When lines 1 and 6 move I think the whole scenario of hexagram 8 here has played out and 37 is what is now coming through. I'm wondering if this is just a bad time and in fact the old order of things will soon collapse leaving a more sympathetic person in charge ? Hard to say really. All I do know here is that the current situation cannot stay as it is. In 8.6 it all falls apart, there is not enough cohesion. Yet in 37 there is good order and cohesion. So if you think there is any chance someone else may usurp your boss then stay around because things look set to change there. However if you see no possible change at all it may describe you leaving. I think if you do leave you find a good solid structured organisation to work for where you fit in, where you belong(37). Perhaps that 37, which can describe any cohesive working functional unit or group, is your new job ?


Keep your 46.6 in mind though. I think that reading is important to take with you.

 

[evas]

Thanks i will let u know how thing turned out in the end.

 

[evas]

Dear all, it has been a while since I have posted and I got updates, which in some way hopefuly will be useful for enlightening the whole situation. I did not get the job. In my current job the things have not gotten better, I am still having a hard time with my boss who keeps persecuting me for anything ... So I am quite sad... Nevertheless thank you very much for your help;-)

 

[Tim K]

Could you elaborate on that?
Were you invited for the interview?
Why did they decline your application?

 

[evas]

Well i was invited for an interview which went very well. Before the interview they almost excluded my application because it was missing one file but decided to invite me anyway so that kinda gave me a little hope that there werent as many applicants. Then I heard nothng of them for almost two months so I decided to ask myself how did I do and got this message that I was not chosen, they did not sy why... i wonder what this hex 37 on my current job is trying to tell me I dont think it will get mich better, there are periods of silence with periods of rage of my boss and its driving me and others crazy... I dont think it will change to any better :-(

Could you elaborate on that?
Were you invited for the interview?
Why did they decline your application?

 

[Tim K]

37 is an opposite of 40, Deliverance/Freedom. For me it represents obligations, bonds. Social rules. Mother has to take care of her children either she wants it or not. Marriage can be happy or it can be a cage.

8 is a voluntary union, which becomes obligatory 37, with bonds and dependence on each other.
Can be both: a good thing and a bad one.



8.1 → 3.3 → 63 (Completed Phase), Richmond:
If a hunter hunts without a guide he gets lost in the forest.
The superior man sees danger and does not go into it; to do so would bring misfortune.
Going deeper and deeper into the forest.
More and more bonds.

63.6 → 37 (Social Network), Legge:
Shows its subject with (even) his head immersed.
The position is perilous.
Till they become too restraining I guess.