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Arokas

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Hello!

I talked about the stressful situation i'm living in a previous thread. On that premise (end of my relationship with the gf) a friend from afar asked me if i would like to go to his city for two or three days to let off some steam. I'm on a week off from work right now, and while i would like to see him at the same time i would also like to spend the week at home relaxing myself a bit. Going at his place would mean travelling 600 km and returning the day before restarting work, so while i would have fun for sure, i wouldn't be able to relax a lot.

I asked the i ching if it's a good idea to go, what i need to know if i go, and what i need to know if i decide to stay at home.

it's a good idea to go? Hex 11 unchanging.
I interpret this as a positive answer. Harmony, peace, success.

What do i need to know if i go? 2.1 to 24
It seems advice to be receptive to all the events and situation that will happen during the trip. The change to 24, turning point, i see as positive. Maybe the trip will be the turning point that start my recovery from the lost relationship. However the line leading to 24 doesn't appear much positive, talking about the coming of ice and such. Wilhelm talk about taking precaution. However in my situation the ice has already came, and i hope this turning point will be the light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. What do you think?

What do i need to know if i stay? 49.1 to 31
The original meaning seems to be advice in case of political revolutions. Seems to me in my situation this revolution could be an argument? "In the world cycle also there are spring and autumn in the life of peoples and nations, and these call for social transformations."

Line 1 changing to 24 isn't that positive here either. Legge sees it as acting prematurely, Wilhelm gives advice to act only if the time is right.

Seems to me if i decide to stay home, it's better to stay home for real because if i go "social" i should take great care not to engage in situations i'm not ready to deal with.

What do you think?
 

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What have you decided to do?

My sense is that either choice will be O.K. From what you have written it seems your preference is to keep alone to yourself but you have some confusion about that. From what part of you is that preference coming?
 

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Hello! In the end, i took the trip.

Complicating the matter even more, another friend proposed to take the plane and go visiting Frankfurt, but that would have costed too much for being only a two day trip.

Honestly my intuition was saying not to go, but i wasn't sure it was really intuition or laziness so i decided with the mind instead of the hearth.

Can't say it ended up very well. I indulged a lot in frivolous things like alcohol and cigarettes, i wasn't a a good company to be with cause i didn't feel like talking a lot especially with people i didn't know, i didn't have much sleep (but this i already knew before departing). I also felt that i don't have much in common anymore with people i didn't have any problem being with two years ago. For the most part i felt depressed and alone more than if i would've stayed home.

On the bright side, i met an interesting girl with which i had lot in common to share from the very first moments we talked. I felt a connection, non in romantic sense, but it made me realize that there are similar people to me around (finding people which are on my wavelength is something i struggle with lately and honestly i was losing hope a bit).
 

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Oh i forgot to add one thing. The 2.1 line was spot on. Something happened with my ex gf during my trip which probably ended up everything good that was left between us (at least for a fair bit time i think). I saw some things, thought some other, wondered a bit if talk to her frankly about our situation, asked the i ching what will be the results of talking with her and received hex 5 as a result, prompting me to react to the situation with a calm reaction, which i haven't be able to do very well. So in the end i texted her about the matter, and we ended up arguing and making things a lot worse.

So i learned i should listen to the iching a lot more, but i find difficult to grasp fully what it says before the events happen. In retrospect though it's really easy to see what various line meant.
 

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Thank you, Arokas, for the update and sharing with the forum what you learned from your readings.

I think that your sense that 2.1 > 24 that "maybe the trip would be a turning point (24) that starts the recovery from ... lost relationship. " The hope inspired by meeting the interesting girl on the same wavelength perhaps marks the beginning of that turning point. The other thing I see about 2.1 > 24 is that if you look at Hexagram 2 as being "Receptivity" --- with the first line changing ---- it indicates that you are at the beginning of being receptive to your intuition about how to move through the loss of the relationship. As you said, you realized that your intuition was telling you not to know but then you listened to your head. For me, learning how to follow my intuition has involved sometimes NOT following and then realizing, "Oh. That was my intuition." From the text for Hexagram 2, "At first confusion, later gains a lord." So you allowed your mind to confuse you about your intuition. But this is part of the process of learning to follow the intuition.

To me it is interesting that you received the first line of hexagram 49 as well. I believe that you are at the beginning of a Radical Change and this is true even though you took the trip instead of staying hom. Perhaps there was nothing you could have done --- go on the trip, staying home --- that would have relieved the pain of grieving a lost relationship. As I said, either way would be O.K. Neither option had huge warning lines.

I also find it difficult to grasp fully what an I Ching reading is saying before the events happen. I actually think you DID listen to the I Ching. You asked. You contemplated the answers. And you reviewed the answers in the light of your experience. You learned. I believe we are where we are. If you are at the beginning of receptivity to your intuition in this time of healing and at the beginning of radical change. That is where you are. There is no "should". This is why sometimes I simple ask "What time is it for me?"
 

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