halt, stop, retreat, give up? what to choose...

[dragona]

Hello busy forum,
find myself feeling quite lonely lately - thus the question: How can I get closer towards meeting my intended (brazen in supposing there is one)? 12.3 into 33
Feeling ashamed towards future does not make much sense except that I do feel limited/discouraged due to my certain appearance problems...may YI be referring to that?
It gets better...
What will be happening from here on in the relationship area? 16.1 into 51 - Clearly I am told not to get carried away or expect much but that I asked after seeing old flame`s short resurface that was lately suddenly very much in my mind....for him I got 21 UN and 59.5 into 4 uch:
Could those be all about past instead of the future? I am sinking, I feel...
Any thoughts or experiences with the same casts?
Thanks, d.:bows:

 

[emiliana2010]

Hi dragona,

about your first question I found this words very revealing:
- get closer
- toward

You asked how you can "get closer", as if that would be what you actually want, just getting closer, not getting really there. Also "toward" implies hinting at the goal but not reaching it. I don't think that's what you really want. To me it feels that what you want is to get into, and enjoy, a loving, nurturing relationship , not just get in its vicinity.

Maybe the answer you received is pointing at the way you look toward the future and yourself. Retreating from the real issue, playing it safe by setting yourself up for "toward" and "get closer" don't help you to receive what you desire.

You have all my support.
Hugs

 

[dragona]

You asked how you can "get closer", as if that would be what you actually want, just getting closer, not getting really there. Also "toward" implies hinting at the goal but not reaching it. I don't think that's what you really want. To me it feels that what you want is to get into, and enjoy, a loving, nurturing relationship , not just get in its vicinity.

Thank you and yes, well, that is a process and I am quite without any ideas that would work to my advantage.
So that was an inquiry which way to go, how to help to cross paths...and the answer is 12.3
Line-3
Legge: The third line, magnetic, shows its subject ashamed of the purpose folded in her breast.
Wilhelm/Baynes: They bear shame.
Blofeld: He conceals his shame.
Liu: They bear with humiliation.
Ritsema/Karcher: Enwrapping embarrassing.
Shaughnessy: Wrapping: Enfolding sadness.
Cleary (1): Hiding shame.
Cleary (2): Embracing disgrace.
I feel other things before shame, really. This probably has broader meaning.

 

[dragona]

Wilhelm:
Six in the third place means:

They bear shame.
Inferior people who have risen to power illegitimately do not feel equal to the responsibility they have taken upon themselves. In their hearts they begin to be ashamed, although at first they do not show it outwardly. This marks a turn for the better.
So, do nothing for a while. Bide my time. Is that the idea?
Just wanted to get a second opinion.

 

[qafinaf]

Well shame as well as the translations that say "enfolding" "wrapping" implies hiding something. Maybe even masking something in a persona or with a smile. Legge's "ashamed of the purpose folded in her breast" makes me think of interacting with an attractive person while inside one is trying to draw the other person's interest. Meaning not able to interact without getting ideas, instead of just naturally and comfortably meeting.

I'm just bringing up different ways of looking at this word "shame"

If this 12.3>33 is telling you not how to get closer but what's blocking the connection, maybe do the opposite?

John

Also: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?15609-Help-please-with-12-3

 

[dragona]

If this 12.3>33 is telling you not how to get closer but what's blocking the connection, maybe do the opposite?
Are you saying that I need to be more...sincere? Without any agenda? Again, there would have to be some one or a two to begin with...unless it should be taken as a general rule. Then again, first I like to make friends with people...
so can`t help to think that the answer is related to other casts I got there...

 

[qafinaf]

Hi Dragona,

Actually, I was looking at 11.3 as the opposite of 12.3, but when I looked at other "opposites" and their lines, I didn't see the connection. Still, 11.3 may be helpful: accepting what the time brings without pushing one condition away in favor of another.

One way to look at these readings is that they are describing how you are relating to yourself. And that they are pointing towards finding sufficiency and satisfaction within yourself even without the relationship you have in mind. Maybe it comes, maybe it doesn't. You are whole either way.

The two readings about the old flame 21 and 59.5 both have to do with dealing with a blockage. Bite through it or cry out. But release it somehow. Maybe it's a communication block because both readings have the image of the mouth. The mouth speaks but it also receives nourishment.

Good luck, Dragona.

John