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It's really quite simple.Am hoping this will end up being excellently timed to help with the Ideal hexagram discussion.
Having studied with Harmen for a few years now - including how to make use of the Houtian bagua circle in understanding the trigrams - I'm pretty darn sure he'd not agree with this notion of an Ideal hexagram, nor would he want to talk much about it. But that's just my educated guess.
Yep. Anything anyone gleans from Harmen's video(s) can be put to good use, including helping them understand Karcher and the Ideal hexagrams.b) that the Early Heaven bagua has roots in Daoist practice, and not in divination. I would hazard a guess that those roots also informed Karcher's ideas about the Ideal, and learning more about them might help with understanding what it's supposed to be/do.
...was the root of my premature comment. "Ooh, maybe this will help!" Or not.learning more about them
I was witness to the later part of the original thread (in another forum). Harmen was trying to correct misinformation about these two trigram circles. In summary:what matters is that these wonderful sequences are both in our awareness and can nourish and support each other.
Yes. I was only trying to clarify which parts of the 'question of the qualities' is Harmen's and which is My_Key's:... moving the conversation along to the question of the qualities of the diagram and what it represents
Teapots are vessels of great magic and wonder and should be included in every foot note. Hmmmmm ..... maybe they are already and we just can't see them.No, but you do have a teapot.
Thanks Hilary. Yes I was aware of all that and I have no attachment to which is the chicken or which is the egg. I posted my post not to denigrate Harmen or his scholarly approach but to offer a perspective on the relationship that could well exist between the two cycles in a wider picture of life the Universe and everything.I think you'll find My_key was aware of all that, and is moving the conversation along to the question of the qualities of the diagram and what it represents, not its antiquity.
.... but to offer a perspective on the relationship that could well exist between the two cycles in a wider picture of life the Universe and everything. Just because Harmen doesn't think that a connection is so doesn't make it impossible to have an esoteric based connection between the two ....
.... I am fine with what My_Key is saying, and I have no need for sources or references about this. I just want to be clear about whom is saying what.
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