Help with long distance relationship

[tella83]

Hello everyone!

First time here. I've come here for help in concern to a long distance relationship I have. I would like to enlighten, and learn about this.

So here is the background story.

We met each-other online since 4 weeks, and ever since then, we have hit off extremely well. We talk to each-other practically every day online. And she very much ticks off all the boxes when it comes to a potential partner. Only problem is; is the distance itself. I am in Europe, she is in south america! It even comes down to the point where I feel as if she is already my girlfriend. So inevitably, I asked some questions in i-ching to find out what, and how this relationship works. I've have already made up my mind to go and see her, although that could take some time once I get a plane ticket to go and see her.

So voila my questions!

Tell me something about X?
14.6 34

14 - Ta Yu (Possession in Great Measure)
.6 He's blessed by heaven. Good fortune. Nothing that doesn't further.
34 - Ta Chuang (The Power of the Great)
Would this mean she has her eyes on me with great restraint (because of distance? = 34)

What is X's position in our relationship?
13 - Fellowship

Translation
29.1.5.6 41

I did my upmost best to research on these lines, but couldn't extrapolate an answer for myself unfortunately. As for 13, I could only guess if she considers me as part of her "clan", or, she is holding back in HER "clan".

My position?

14 - Possession in Great Measure
Me holding on (to her)?

Image of relationship?

17 - Following

Following each-other for results?

What could I expect from X once we see/meet each other face to face?

26.4 14

"Very auspicious. You are protected from harm." I guess this means she would fully accept me for who I am?

What does X intend to do with me?

1.5.6 34

This was very vague for me as I found out that 1 is considered very good for love. However, 34 is back again (distance? restraint? as background hex). I could only guess that there would be alot of passion in involved.

How interested is X in me?

19.1 7

19.1 Joint approach. two of you creating something together. 7 Order order order

What is the potential of our relationship?

23.1.6 24

*drum roll* The most important question. 23, splitting apart. 23.1 the bed represents your current situation but it has lost its legs, meaning, your present situation is going no where. So staying this way will only bring you misfortune. 23.6 the largest fruit is uneaten, meaning there is an opportunity that you have not taken yet. When you do you will receive very good results. 24 this is a turning point.

Hmmm, I guess, and feel, this is related to "don't think of anything else just yet as the opportunity for creating a potential relationship hasn't arrived yet. I guess this is a question that goes to far in to the future and 23 is scolding me for asking this question now.

Thank you everyone, I look forward to your input :bows:

 

[Vissino]

Hi tella!

I will give a try as I want to help you..

Tell me something about X?
14.6 34
14.6 shows someone is travelling to meet each other..

What is X's position in our relationship?
13 UC
I think she is interested but she is thinking about your distance as a big obstacle.

Translation
29.1.5.6 41
Very difficult to be together. You try to take control of the situation but distance will not help you.

My position?
14 - Possession in Great Measure
You trully want her.

Image of relationship?

17 - Following
The situation will continue...

What could I expect from X once we see/meet each other face to face?

26.4 14
She will have a strong reserve for you.

What does X intend to do with me?

1.5.6 34
Someone is going to meet each other but nothing more is going to happen because one will be too arrogant.

How interested is X in me?

19.1 7
She is really interested and she wants your communication as you do.

What is the potential of our relationship?

23.1.6 24
No potential at all. Really sorry.

 

[tella83]

Hello Vissino!! Thank you so much for your reply. Obviously I have some questions concerning the lines.

14.6 shows someone is travelling to meet each other..

Where does the travelling apply to? Would this relate to the distance itself, or, her being herself?

26.4 14
She will have a strong reserve for you.

Would the reserve apply to; her not get her heart broken, just for the way she is, or, seeing me physically would change the dynamics/chemistry? I can't understand if the "reserve" is meant in the positive sense or negative sense.

1.5.6 34
Someone is going to meet each other but nothing more is going to happen because one will be too arrogant.

Now this is interesting, who is this "someone", you mean us? And who would be too arrogant, me or her? That is line .6 isn't it?

23.1.6 24
No potential at all. Really sorry.

No potential because of distance? Or because of chemistry? I am trying to find out where 23 applies to.

Thank you :bows:

 

[Vissino]

1)

14.6 shows someone is travelling to meet each other..

Where does the travelling apply to? Would this relate to the distance itself, or, her being herself?

- I am not sure who is going to travel.. I have seen a lot of times 14.6 as a flight..

2)

26.4 14
She will have a strong reserve for you.

Would the reserve apply to; her not get her heart broken, just for the way she is, or, seeing me physically would change the dynamics/chemistry? I can't understand if the "reserve" is meant in the positive sense or negative sense.

- Well, you know how a woman feels when meet someone for the first time..

3)

1.5.6 34
Someone is going to meet each other but nothing more is going to happen because one will be too arrogant.

Now this is interesting, who is this "someone", you mean us? And who would be too arrogant, me or her? That is line .6 isn't it?

-Yes it's line 6..I am not sure who will be the arrogant. Maybe you because 34 shows a "man"

4)

23.1.6 24
No potential at all. Really sorry.

No potential because of distance? Or because of chemistry? I am trying to find out where 23 applies to.

- Yes because of distance due to the answer you got (Translation:29.1.5.6 41). 23 is the worst indication for a relationship. You can't even taste the fruit (23.6).. It's pointless. I am really sorry.

 

[tella83]

Would the reserve apply to; her not get her heart broken, just for the way she is, or, seeing me physically would change the dynamics/chemistry? I can't understand if the "reserve" is meant in the positive sense or negative sense.

- Well, you know how a woman feels when meet someone for the first time..

I would consider that as irrelevant as anybody, male or female are different with their intentions and motivations. So "reserve" is still under question for me. As for me personally, my motivation/intention would be to become best friends first, lovers second.

Now this is interesting, who is this "someone", you mean us? And who would be too arrogant, me or her? That is line .6 isn't it?

-Yes it's line 6..I am not sure who will be the arrogant. Maybe you because 34 shows a "man"

Arrogance can always change, I wouldn't consider that as a problem. But I come back to what I said before, "someone"? What does that mean!,

No potential because of distance? Or because of chemistry? I am trying to find out where 23 applies to.

- Yes because of distance due to the answer you got (Translation:29.1.5.6 41). 23 is the worst indication for a relationship. You can't even taste the fruit (23.6).. It's pointless. I am really sorry.

Ok, so 23 is JUST distance then. I might as well book a ticket tomorrow then. Btw, for 34, is 34 considered as male energy?

 

[Tim K]

The answers you've got give a feeling that you are over eager to fall in love with her.
There are 26, 14, multiple 34, and 23/24 in the end.

Tell me something about X? 14.6 34
You are trying too hard (.6 and 34) to get her.
You over-estimate this person, seeing her as something valuable [14].

What is X's position in our relationship? 13. 29-41
She likes being friends with a foreigner. [13 remote districts/open field].
With someone far away, the interest is not deep, just a pen-pal/icq/chat friend [13].

29-41 Stay away from the dangerous river[29], decrease your involvement[41].

My position? 14
Your position is a complement to 13, you are giving too much praise/attention/value to this relationship.
If she is a simple lad/villager[13], you live in the capital [14] and have a high status, like a noble of some sort.

Image of relationship? 17
Following each other, or maybe only one is following.
Also - obey the time/circumstances, don't try to change it into something you want.

What could I expect from X once we see/meet each other face to face? 26.4 - 14
A very stark response - a polite and swift 'No, thanks.' Thwarting your enthusiasm.
Your advances would be slowed down, with some kind of a reality check.
26 - slow down.

What does X intend to do with me? 1.5.6 - 34
I'm not sure Yi is answering that particular question.
I see it as you are willing to fly [.5] but it will only bring harm and conflict [.6].
Too much power 34, again.

How interested is X in me? 19.1 - 7
The first line of Approaching(19) - her level of interest is low. She sees you as a co-worker/comrade, someone to have a good conversation with, not more.

What is the potential of our relationship? 23 - 24
Agree with Vissino here, no potential.
Very unstable, something temporary. Will quickly turn to dust.

 

[rosada]

Well I don't read 23.1.6 - 24 as being as negative as all that.

I think first of all it pays to try to read the hexagrams on their most superficial level:
What is the potential?
23.You and your friend will have to Split Apart as you must...
24. Return Home.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't even go however. In fact I think if you study the oracle lines more deeply 23.1 and 23.6 are actually encouraging you not to give in to negativity but to check it out for yourself:

What is the potential?
23.1
After the glorious high flying perfection of a fantasy outlined in 22.6 Grace, the next line - if you read the IChing as a sequence - is 23.1 where we find ourselves surrounded with our own doubts and possibly even those of other people, nay-sayers, whose negativity can ultimately destroy our courage to follow our dream. So there does indeed exist the potential for having your high hopes undermined. But the advice is not to abandon the project. The first line describes circumstances before we get into the energy described by the hexagram. So BEFORE Splitting Apart you may hear a lot of negativity that could destroy your ambition but Wilhelm specifically states you should wait and see for yourself.

23.6
The sixth line describes circumstances AFTER the main meaning of the hexagram. So AFTER the time of splitting apart comes and goes and you still haven't split - after you decide not to split apart from your friend - the superior man is supported as if in a carriage. Perhaps this even means after you take a ride (carriage) and go visit south America, you find out what the true reality of this connection is and you will feel vindicated in having continued to pursue it. At least that seems to be a real potential.

24. Return
From what you have written it sounds like you will be first going for a visit, not to move there. So I think the IC is giving you a short term answer and saying that the potential of what is possible in this relationship is limited by the reality that you will have to return to you native country. Perhaps this also means you should consider what would you do if you did fall in love? If Return means you return home, would she be willing to move?

In summation, I believe you are being advised that any doubts you might have or negative feedback you might receive about the potential here should not determine whether you put more energy into this friendship. I think you are being encouraged to go ahead and visit - meet face to face - and see for yourself and then decide whether to pursue the possibilities further. You will of course have to Return home after this first visit no matter what you decide so the potential for what can be experienced is obviously limited. But the lines are positive enough that I certainly think the I Ching is telling you a visit wont be time wasted.
Maybe Return means after meeting you'll be Returning to South America!