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Hello everyone,

Lately I've started a couple of posts about my "looking for a flat" situation. In a nutshell, I am forced to move from where I live now and seems I can't afford with my own means something that ticks, at least, the most important boxes. I looked for places further from my city and my workplace but couldn't find anywhere where I wouldn't feel lonely and stressed because of my dependency on public transport. Anyway. Even though I was hesitant at first I decided to take this opportunity to take the relationship with my partner to the next level. I was excited about it; somehow, my bad luck made sense to me. After visiting some flats and doing a lot of search, today he told me that he's not sure he wants to take this step. the reason is sad. He says he doesn't want to loose his "purchasing power", investing on furniture, jobs paintings and so on. He doesn't want to pay half of a rent either. He lives rent free with his mother. He is 55, for God's sake. I feel devastated now. I feel fooled. I know he loves me but... he's scared of commitment and scared of us not being able to make ends meet and therefore end up hating each other. That's what he says. But I still have to move, and have to do it quick, and won't be any easier without his support and with a new source of distress. I asked the iching what would be my best course of action regarding to my flat hunting situation. I got hexagram 14.1.3 to 64.
I understand the first line of hex 14 is advising not to allow him to hurt me and make things more difficult to me (so, is it not counting on him anymore, or demanding more commitment (if such thing is demandable)?
The third line talks about possessions that one doesn't offer because wants to keep them for himself... well, I think it's pretty clear what the Yi is talking about...maybe indicating that he won't change.
And hex 64... could mean that I should be able to realise that in order to fix my situation?
I could do with some insight with this one, because I am quite lost in this situation. I'm having the saddest birthday ever :( Many thanks in advance :)
 
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what would be my best course of action regarding to my flat hunting situation
14.1.3 > 64


14.1 - no relationship with an injurious influence, things are difficult.
14.3 - a prince, with surplus possessions, can afford to sacrifice, a poor man can't do that.
Obviously this is where you're at right now.
Your partner doesn't want to move in with you, and he is being petty with money.

64 - the situation won't continue as it is for long, soon you won't have these two problems anymore.
Plus, since you say it's your birthday, keep in mind Mercury is still retrograde in your sign.
Wait till the 3rd of May, if that's practically possible; the situation will change.
Also, new moon in Taurus tomorrow.
IMHO, hold off any action or decision for a short time.
 
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Diamanda could you please help me to understand why you interpret hexagram 64 as "the situation won't continue as it is for long, soon you won't have these two problems anymore."

Hexagram 64 means sth unfinished-Not yet completed.
 
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64 means "not yet", "not across", "not completed".
I personally take the resulting hex to mean a future situation.
I think along the lines of:

first hex = the situation isn't this anymore
any changing lines = what's happening at the moment
resulting hex = what was described before (first hex and lines) will result in this.
So 64 = what was described before this, will not be completed. The problems will not fully play out.

This doesn't necessarily mean that the whole issue will have a happy end... (although it might),
just that these two particular problems will stop existing, in their current form.

Does this make sense to you? Mind you, this is the method I follow, there are many others.
 
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"So 64 = what was described before this, will not be completed. The problems will not fully play out."

Aha!! Yes, it makes sense now! Thank you for helping me understand :)
 

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Hello everyone,

Lately I've started a couple of posts about my "looking for a flat" situation. In a nutshell, I am forced to move from where I live now and seems I can't afford with my own means something that ticks, at least, the most important boxes. I looked for places further from my city and my workplace but couldn't find anywhere where I wouldn't feel lonely and stressed because of my dependency on public transport. Anyway. Even though I was hesitant at first I decided to take this opportunity to take the relationship with my partner to the next level. I was excited about it; somehow, my bad luck made sense to me. After visiting some flats and doing a lot of search, today he told me that he's not sure he wants to take this step. the reason is sad. He says he doesn't want to loose his "purchasing power", investing on furniture, jobs paintings and so on. He doesn't want to pay half of a rent either. He lives rent free with his mother. He is 55, for God's sake. I feel devastated now. I feel fooled. I know he loves me but... he's scared of commitment and scared of us not being able to make ends meet and therefore end up hating each other. That's what he says. But I still have to move, and have to do it quick, and won't be any easier without his support and with a new source of distress. I asked the iching what would be my best course of action regarding to my flat hunting situation. I got hexagram 14.1.3 to 64.
I understand the first line of hex 14 is advising not to allow him to hurt me and make things more difficult to me (so, is it not counting on him anymore, or demanding more commitment (if such thing is demandable)?
The third line talks about possessions that one doesn't offer because wants to keep them for himself... well, I think it's pretty clear what the Yi is talking about...maybe indicating that he won't change.
And hex 64... could mean that I should be able to realise that in order to fix my situation?
I could do with some insight with this one, because I am quite lost in this situation. I'm having the saddest birthday ever :( Many thanks in advance :)

This makes me think of the 23.6 you had in a previous thread. Can you go on with someone this half hearted ? So at least this whole thing has bought something to light, made something clear about him and you. At least I wouldn't want to continue with him if I were you since he isn't really sharing in your life or your problems so talk of love, well, he needs to show it I think...23.6 did show minor changes weren't enough, this whole thing is a bigger change. You haven't said you want to break with him, if you don't want to that's fair enough...you know the situation best, but yes it is a let down and if nothing else I'd think he needs to be quite clear about how much of a let down this is for you.

14.1.3>64. In 64 you are still midstream, not yet made it to the other side of the river so the thing there is at least to not feel frustrated you can't make it all make sense yet or find solutions. I think yes 14 shows however it looks you are rich in some respects. Often when we get 14 we feel the precise opposite of rich, but this hexagram does ask you to count your blessings, what you do have, because doing that brings more of the same. Quick birthday exercise might be making a list of blessings, things you already have, because Yi is IMO telling you that you do have resources but perhaps haven't been able to 'cash them in' yet. 14>64 as a sentence is 'Great Having's Not Yet Across'...or put it another way 'Wealth's Not there yet'.

14.1 I think is advice to steer clear of any harmful acts you may be tempted to. I don't know what these might be. Line 3 asks can you afford to offer up what you have to the Son of Heaven. It could be about him as you say. Is he big enough to make this offering to you. But it might be about you. In my experience 14.3, when it asks 'do you have enough' is a kind of rhetorical question....yes you do. 14.3 isn't saying someone doesn't offer what they have, it simply asks 'do you have enough ?' Look and see. I held back from getting a car after mine was stolen for a long time, then asked about getting one I'd seen and got this line. I thought it over and I had enough so I got it. This line is asking you to look. It's a lovely line to get so the emphasis shouldn't be on the negative side.

You have enough to go forward. I am wondering if you are turning down places that seem beyond you at the moment ? It might just be that you can afford more than you think...but again you know best. For your birthday try to 'think rich', focus more on what you have at this moment than what you fear might happen. I think you have more means at your disposal, don't panic as things now are just a transition phase (64) which I think you will successfully navigate because you have enough resources to do this.


Do give yourself the gift today of remembering all the luck you have had in the past, the times you thought things wouldn't work out when they did, anything good you have right now...even if it's just a piece of cake and some tea. Your reading is very far from hopeless or sad so neither should you be.
 

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I'm sorry I haven't posted any response before; I've been in this down mindset and couldn't find the strength to focus and do it. But I must say your replies helped me cope better with the situation, and definitely my birthday wasn't as miserable as it could have been :)
Diamanda, your insight is concise and clear, and summarizes the situation very well. I also tend to see the resulting hex as...well, the result of the situation shown by the main hex and the lines, but didn't occurred to me that hex 64 could mean, in this particular reading, "what was described before this, will not be completed", so it was very helpful that nAstWr asked how did you come up with it and you explained it for us; it's really interesting. As for your comments about being my birthday and your advice: "Wait till the 3rd of May, if that's practically possible; the situation will change.", I'm following it and holding my decisions till then. I mean, there are some possibilities in the air (no one is perfect), and I'm determined not to make any decision until the third. Will keep you updated with that. And thanks again for your precision and your ideas.
Trojina,in my opinion, there is always something supernatural in the way you read the casts that seem to go beyond the cast itself, as if you knew more...don't know how to express that better in English :). Anyway. I did make clear how much of a let down was his reaction and we talked through. The reason I'm still with him is because I know the reason for his limited commitment is his fear, not me. I mean, I know he loves me, the best way he can. Sounds like I'm giving excuses for him, but I'm not usually delusional about other people's feelings, and I've had myself some commitment issues, so I kind of understand what he's going through. The fact that I understand it, doesn't mean that I should accept it. But for now, feeling so down and vulnerable, don't even want to think about a breakup (although it might well be a positive change.)
The reading: it's very interesting your view of 14, and it is absolutely true that I've been feeling "poor", blaming myself for not having been able to make a better living for myself... and I hated that thought, since I tend not to give too much importance to money and always feel grateful for my blessings. I wasn't rightly focused the other day, and I did the exercise you suggested and "counted" the things I've got and that I should feel grateful for...there were a lot, and focusing on that really cheered me up. I've been feeling some rage towards my tenants, they're getting kind of abusive by putting a lot of pressure on me so I'll live sooner, and it crossed my mind to report the fact that they rented me this flat without a contract, or at least threaten them to do so. That would make things more complicated for them… and it would be a war. But it's not in my nature to do things this way or to look for revenge, I would suffer more than them, so I won't do anything (but this could be related to the "harmful acts you may be tempted to" that you saw on 14.1.) Maybe not money wise, but I definitely have "more" than sometimes I feel I have. I have good friends, good family, and I earn my money. Maybe it's not enough to pay a nice apartment in the center of a main capital city, but the world doesn't end there either. Sometimes is the people around us who make us focus more on our flaws, the things we lack or don't do right. But I guess it's better not to have this kind of people around... Well, I'm gonna focus on the fact that I'm in a transitional phase, and will try not to panic yet. It is true that I've been worse and managed to cope with it... why would this time be different? Will wait until the third and will start to move in some direction. I don't have enough words to thank you. Whatever the outcome is, you gave me hope when I was feeling completely hopeless, and will always be grateful for it.
 

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Well, yesterday I got a phone call from an estate agent. I had visited a flat, a very nice one, but also very inconvenient in terms of location. It's in a residential neighborhood, a bit far from shops and commercial zone, and it's something I'm not used to. Since I don't have a car, it could make my life a bit complicated, but nothing I cannot handle, I think. The guy offered a reduction of the rent price, so I would be able to rent it, with the collaboration of my partner, who agrees on paying a third of the rent and spending "most of the days" at my place. The flat is nice, and it's fully furnished, so I wouldn't have to buy anything. I was rather excited about it, all the more since I was supposed to start making decisions on the third. I asked what would be the outcome of renting this flat and got: Hex. 1.1.3.5 >64, which sounded not very auspicious (specially line 1). I felt a bit frustrated with the cast, as it seemed to ask more time and patience from me, which is something I don't think I can afford. I tried to rephrase my question and asked "What will happen if I rent this flat?" and got Hex. 1.1.3>6. Again, hex1, and again, line 1. Of course. But why? I mean, I can’t really see what would be so bad about renting that flat… I just need somewhere to move and stop feeling under pressure. And the place looks nice, and pretty much as good as it can get in this city… But the Yi talks about not moving, being in danger… although it might be referring to my current situation … I’m completely lost; can anyone please help me understand whether I should rent this flat or not?  Many thanks.
 

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Well, yesterday I got a phone call from an estate agent. I had visited a flat, a very nice one, but also very inconvenient in terms of location. It's in a residential neighborhood, a bit far from shops and commercial zone, and it's something I'm not used to. Since I don't have a car, it could make my life a bit complicated, but nothing I cannot handle, I think. The guy offered a reduction of the rent price, so I would be able to rent it, with the collaboration of my partner, who agrees on paying a third of the rent and spending "most of the days" at my place. The flat is nice, and it's fully furnished, so I wouldn't have to buy anything. I was rather excited about it, all the more since I was supposed to start making decisions on the third. I asked what would be the outcome of renting this flat and got: Hex. 1.1.3.5 >64, which sounded not very auspicious (specially line 1). I felt a bit frustrated with the cast, as it seemed to ask more time and patience from me, which is something I don't think I can afford. I tried to rephrase my question and asked "What will happen if I rent this flat?" and got Hex. 1.1.3>6. Again, hex1, and again, line 1. Of course. But why? I mean, I can’t really see what would be so bad about renting that flat… I just need somewhere to move and stop feeling under pressure. And the place looks nice, and pretty much as good as it can get in this city… But the Yi talks about not moving, being in danger… although it might be referring to my current situation … I’m completely lost; can anyone please help me understand whether I should rent this flat or not? � Many thanks.

:confused: not sure why you'd see it as a bad cast ? Also you don't want to get to a situation where you have a clear view, an obvious choice, and then become dependent on Yi 'approving' it. Also we very easily fall into the negative/positive view of answers when Yi is being quite neutral.

Example: I lived in a tiny flat and was offered a much better one. It was obviously an offer I couldn't afford to turn down and yet having some attachment to where I lived I just asked 'what if I don't take it ?' 33uc. Well if I didn't take it I'd be withdrawing. I might have taken 33 as 'withdraw' but this was a once in a blue moon opportunity. I took the new flat. It's great...I mean it always obviously was much better than the previous one...Anyway , your casts

The guy offered a reduction of the rent price, so I would be able to rent it, with the collaboration of my partner, who agrees on paying a third of the rent and spending "most of the days" at my place. The flat is nice, and it's fully furnished, so I wouldn't have to buy anything. I was rather excited about it, all the more since I was supposed to start making decisions on the third. I asked what would be the outcome of renting this flat and got: Hex. 1.1.3.5 >64, which sounded not very auspicious (specially line 1). I felt a bit frustrated with the cast, as it seemed to ask more time and patience from me, which is something I don't think I can afford

Okay this sounds good. That's because it is good. 1.1.3.5>64 looks very much to me like something taking shape, in the process of becoming...at first you may not feel ready in line 1, then there is a very busy time, quite an anxious time where there's so much to think of (moving time) and in line 5 the full potential is realised . If 64 is the position you find yourself in, you ain't there yet. The cast is not asking you to wait for anything and by the sound of it you can't afford to turn such an offer down, it's not like there are plenty of flats.

I just need somewhere to move and stop feeling under pressure. And the place looks nice, and pretty much as good as it can get in this city…

Quite ! Then take it as soon as possible ! You mustn't let go of such opportunities due to an Oracle you/we don't understand too well and also you must still be in the driving seat and make your own choices in accord with the reality of the situation.

Now I can't say if this is the right place for you or not but it looks good and so I would urge you now to rely on your ordinary senses and ways of knowing . I think this is a really creative cast, things happening, things moving and changing and that's what you want.
 

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In addition...you have to balance your use of Yi with your very sound common sense ordinary human knowledge you have acquired. It is unhealthy to try to base all choices on Yi because then you would doubt your own very good intuition and knowledge.
 

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Trojina,

For whatever reason -probably because I'm on a pessimistic mood, 'cause I hate changes- I saw hexagram 1 as a very bad omen. I read it as if it was not the right time for action (hence not the right time to rent), but I don't see it like this anymore. Hexagram 1 reminds me of the Tarot card “the fool”, which is auspicious for action, specially if it's bonded to intuition and creativity. I can't say I'm being guided by any of those things; I'm strictly following my common sense, trying to find a solution that is not very traumatic, but I'm definitely not pursuing any dream or any transcendent goal in my life… just need a place where I can lay my head, store my stuff and go on with my life. Now I realise the Yi was indicating that now it is not the time to show my full potential, to find my dream flat and start building a new life; because now it's time to be practical.
You are right when describing the progression I'm going through… I don't feel ready; I'm incredibly anxious and well… I guess I can say I'm scared about how much I'm gonna have to change my life… It might sound ridicule to someone, but for people like me, a not requested change of routine is hell. I have better days and then I convince myself that it could be an interesting adventure from which I will learn lots of things, but right now I feel too down for that… (but it'll pass soon, I know myself :))

“You mustn't let go of such opportunities due to an Oracle you/we don't understand too well and also you must still be in the driving seat and make your own choices in accord with the reality of the situation. “ You are spot on with this… In fact, before receiving your reply, I asked myself: “what the heck are you doing here waiting? Can't you make a decision on your own? And I made it, and took the flat… And I'm glad I did, because it proves I still have a bit of common sense left ;)
But I totally agree with you… I can't rely on an oracle I can hardly understand and base all my decisions on that; it would be plain crazy to do such thing. And also, I already disconnect too often from my intuition, so it won't help if I don't give it space to talk to me. Thanks again for reminding me another important lesson.
Will update the post once I'm settled in to the flat.
 

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Just to give some feedback: I took the flat, and I'm loving it; I was so stresses that I didn't realised how gorgeous it is. Despite its inconvenients, I think I'm gonna enjoy this place very much. So the Yi (and Trojina) were right: at first I didn't feel ready in line 1, then there has been a VERY busy, stressful time (moving time) and in line 5 the full potential was realised (so I made the most of a situation in which I had the opportunity to rent this flat). I guess 64 reflected the former feeling of distruss, lack of confidence, impatience, frustration... In any case, things seems to be falling into its place...there's still a lot to do and a lot of effort on my side to get used to all the changes, but I think I can handle it! :)
 

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So good to get your good news!

If you are linking a tarot card to the hexagrams, I find that The Magician fits well with hexagram 1.

Hexagram 64. Before Completion shows up for me in situations where something has ended but the new hasn't yet begun. Think of crossing a river - you've left the old but you still have to make it to the opposite shore. Sometimes it can indicate being afraid to commit. Maybe it represents the time between lifetimes.
 

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