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hex. 17 unchanging as an attitude

desertlark

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Hello :) I would like to ask you: what do you think of hex 17 unchanging as a hexagram, which tells about somebody`s attitude towards somebody else ?
 

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17 is the hexagram of accompaniment, obeying, and following. It implies yielding to others and not insisting on oneself. Thus, the attitude of the other is that of the superior one giving way to the inferior. The young girl goes ahead of the adult male. It is a way to gain the compliance of the many.
 

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I read Hex 17 is about the unconditional act of 'following' when ones attitude must be neutralized and balanced upon faith, belief. Yielding as goal to empathize with the other.
 
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Perhaps a laissez-faire attitude? I would see it as perhaps somewhat whimsical, unattached, spontaneous, relativistic. Something like that.
 

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So isn`t it like the superior man is tired already and that`s why he allows the inferor to be a leader... ? ;)

Thunder in the middle of the lake:
The image of FOLLOWING.
Thus the superior man at nightfall
Goes indoors for rest and recuperation.

I am wondering if it isn`t also about denying of taking resposibility and overtaxing someone else by it? It is like saying :"I don`t have any vigour, do it instead of me..":D

But it is only my thinking:p
 

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No, I don't think so. It is that the older man allows the woman to go before himself. It is an act of magnanimity, such that it pleases the many. This act is not one of fatigue, but of careful plotting. It is a very auspicious hexagram for love, but only if that love is not simply lust. If sensual pleasures are the aim of the affair, then the lovers will break up.
 

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I think 17 suggests that the attitude of going with the flow, of following the other's lead, and of following your heart, is the right thing to do in the situation. I think it can suggest that you should go with the needs of the time, which is often difficult when we're after a certain outcome. I think it says to adjust yourself according to the needs of the situation and what feels right at the time. As someones attitude towards someone else, I would see that it indicates there is persistence and a willingness to follow the other person because it feels 'right'. A sense of feeling drawn to the other is what I see.
 

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love and lust

No, I don't think so. It is that the older man allows the woman to go before himself. It is an act of magnanimity, such that it pleases the many. This act is not one of fatigue, but of careful plotting. It is a very auspicious hexagram for love, but only if that love is not simply lust. If sensual pleasures are the aim of the affair, then the lovers will break up.

Hi,
it's an old post but, you know, that's the good of this place, you always find something realted to you:)
I'd like to ask you why 17 unchanging could be aspicious for love but not for lust.. I mean, there could be both in a relationship.. it touches me because the relationship I'm in is actually based on a strong sexual attraction, it doesn't look to go somewhere else.. so icastes is probably right.
But I'd like to understand why,
thanks!
Lucia
 

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Intense sexual chemistry can feel very invasive and deep. I think this can be very scary for many people because there us too much unknown. The process of giving time through separating can then also be too traumatic as in, if one leaves, the common view is that it's over though really perhaps time to process is always what's needed.

Love is like slowly processing together, allowing all that energy to fill all the space of one another's beings. To do this is for two people to open to the experience. Maybe this is done if you actively then both choose one another, when you understand what you're choosing.

But, of course, powerful sexual connections, if you let them open you up, even if one person leaves, opens you up for the process of love. :)
 

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