Hex 22.2.3 to 41 for Radio Career

[arabella]

In a relatively unending saga of the pursuit of employment, I've recently sent several samples of radio programmes I've done to the primary radio network in the country. Although my programme was created on an amateur basis I do have professional background in theatre and the audience seemed to find the format and material interesting. So I sent this along through their usual commissioning channels and received a reply to say that the CDs of my show had been passed to the head of the national radio network -- which of course is not the usual procedure. They didn't say why or what to expect next and I'm half afraid to ask.

So instead of asking the network's production department what to expect, I asked the Yi: What will I hear from the head of radio?

The reply was hexagram 22.2.3 becoming hexagram 41. And most of what I read on other 22.2 threads would say this is fairly negligible and sounds like I'll get a pat on the head for trying. But then I've also read that, in relation the Arts, hexagram 22 has a whole different aspect. Because beauty isn't superficial in that context, it can be the point.

In which case -- maybe this is hopeful?

 

[Trojina]

In a relatively unending saga of the pursuit of employment, I've recently sent several samples of radio programmes I've done to the primary radio network in the country. Although my programme was created on an amateur basis I do have professional background in theatre and the audience seemed to find the format and material interesting. So I sent this along through their usual commissioning channels and received a reply to say that the CDs of my show had been passed to the head of the national radio network -- which of course is not the usual procedure. They didn't say why or what to expect next and I'm half afraid to ask.

So instead of asking the network's production department what to expect, I asked the Yi: What will I hear from the head of radio?

The reply was hexagram 22.2.3 becoming hexagram 41. And most of what I read on other 22.2 threads would say this is fairly negligible and sounds like I'll get a pat on the head for trying. But then I've also read that, in relation the Arts, hexagram 22 has a whole different aspect. Because beauty isn't superficial in that context, it can be the point.

In which case -- maybe this is hopeful ?

The best i can come up with here is "maybe it is maybe it isn't"


No need to thank me I have these profound flashes of intuition all the time

 

[arabella]

Ah-so! What a sendup and I was so thrilled to see you'd replied too!! I thought -- oh GOOD Trojan's on -- so here's an answer for sure.

But, yes, that's about all i could figure out as well. I don't think 22.2 has been cast more than, say, ten times in all of history. What the blip does it mean anyway?

 

[Trojina]

Ah-so! What a sendup and I was so thrilled to see you'd replied too!! I thought -- oh GOOD Trojan's on -- so here's an answer for sure.

But, yes, that's about all i could figure out as well. I don't think 22.2 has been cast more than, say, ten times in all of history. What the blip does it mean anyway?

God knows, I never ever cast it.

I think these are tricksy lines though. They can be feel good lines with not much to show...but then again in the particular field you are asking about they may, as you said, have a more particular meaning

Good grief ...minds a blank...can't even waffle about it


Not to worry someone else may be along shortly

 

[pocossin]

What will I hear from the head of radio?
22.2.3 > 41

The line text is optimistic for more than a pat on the head. Appears you are playing it down because you don't want to hex the situation. If your submission didn't have merit, it wouldn't have been sent to the head. Your line of work is the creation of appearances (22), I think. And I associate 41 with work, so the casting suggests you'll get something.

 

[arabella]

What will I hear from the head of radio?
22.2.3 > 41

The line text is optimistic for more than a pat on the head. Appears you are playing it down because you don't want to hex the situation. If your submission didn't have merit, it wouldn't have been sent to the head. Your line of work is the creation of appearances (22), I think. And I associate 41 with work, so the casting suggests you'll get something.

That makes a lot of sense -- I hadn't thought of it that way, presenting on radio [or anywhere in the media] really is about creating an appearance, a context -- well -- showcasing other people in this case.

Why do you associate hexagram 41 with work? The service aspect of work or in general?

Thanks Pocossin for your input here, 22.2 talks about the beauty of "hair" -- but all i could think was to tear mine out trying to find a practical meaning.

 

[pocossin]

Why do you associate hexagram 41 with work?

In terms of the King Wen Sequence, hexagram 41 is about preparing a plastron for divination, thus the mention of tortoises in 41.5. The 'decrease' is the drilling or scraping (not sure how it was done) a small pit on the inside of the plastron. This is careful, skilled work.

 

[sooo]

Having worked in radio for over 20 years, about 15 years as GM or GSM, I may be able to offer a little something useful.

Here in the US, talk programs often begin on a local station, then may be carried by additional private company affiliates, and from there can reach a big gun network. Most nationally syndicated talk programs began this way. Ownership regulations now offer a large number of stations to be owned, leased and operated by a single enterprise, which in a way has cheapened the quality through use of automation and such, however, for someone who provides broadcast product, such as you're seeking, it offers opportunity to be carried in several markets by the same ownership. I don't know what the regulations are or in which country you're residing in, but chances are the business model may be similar.

22.2 (LiSe) lends support to this possibility, as does line 3 and h41 - doing something productive but lesser while waiting and preparing for something greater eventually. Grooming for something bigger.

When I started, I went to a big gun major market station (SFO), that was hiring, and was terribly disappointed when told to get small market experience first, to learn the ropes, then come back afterwards, and if my track record was good, I'd be hired on. Less than three years later I was hired on as a GM in a middle size market, before being offered a position in another major market (Seattle). That's how things often work in the radio biz. But again, I don't know how station ownership is regulated where you live. I'd still think that the opportunity to start locally and graduate to larger carriers would be possible. At any rate, I'd keep sending your demos out rather than just waiting and biting your nails to hear back from this one source.

Good luck!

 

[arabella]

Thanks Sooo, for the encouragement and for information on the industry from someone who's "been there -- done that." I'm not really sure if an equivalent with the USA exists over here. Much of the media is publicly funded and there don't seem to be many steps between local [amateur] and national [professional].

I'm hoping there was an important reason my demos were sent on to the Head of national radio rather than proceeding through the normal commissioning process. I wouldn't think that they'd waste his time with something awful anyway.

I will try for other markets. I'll have to research what they are -- if they are. Thanks for that idea too and for thoughts on the casting 22.2 and 22.3. It does sound hopeful -- but maybe a bit down the line. It's a dream worth waiting for and working toward!

 

[sooo]

Most welcome.

Yeah, it only occurred to me around halfway through my original post that the radio business may be quite different there than here, and so I rewrote the post to reflect that earlier on. I was shocked by how differently radio stations sounded and conducted business while investigating broadcast opportunities in New Zealand. So comparatively laid back! Still, your reading does appear to apply generally similar to my original thoughts about it, particularly the grooming aspect of 22.2. Another possible way is through broadcast schools or courses, if they exist there, though frankly, most announcer graduates had to be retrained to speak like normal human beings instead of what we referred to as "pukers" - from the Urban Dictionary: A radio announcer (typically of the "Boss Jock" school) who attempts to add excitement to his delivery by talking from the back of the throat, a common affectation in 1960's and later "Top 40" formats. chuckle... I know there's little relevance to your kind of announcing, just making fun. But there are some practical skills taught in those schools.

In sales (and you are selling yourself and your skills after all), there's called the funnel. That is, it's the objective to always keep the funnel filled with prospects, because only a small percentage of what's loaded into it will actually find its way down to the narrow spout as a sale. Best case scenario is that you are the one making the choice as to which suits you best, rather than relying on the single prospect accepting you, which doesn't give you much strength in negotiating your fiscal worth, or other desirable considerations, such as location - which is why recording at a local station allows you to use professional facilities and equipment, and can be sent via satellite or other medium to other facilities who contract to carry your special feature or program.

 

[tigerintheboat]

So instead of asking the network's production department what to expect, I asked the Yi: What will I hear from the head of radio?

The reply was hexagram 22.2.3 becoming hexagram 41. And most of what I read on other 22.2 threads would say this is fairly negligible and sounds like I'll get a pat on the head for trying. But then I've also read that, in relation the Arts, hexagram 22 has a whole different aspect. Because beauty isn't superficial in that context, it can be the point.

In which case -- maybe this is hopeful?

I think H22 means that you can put oil on your hair, and it shines, but that won't make it longer or really any more beautiful than it already is. I assume this means that if you aren't what they are looking for, no amount of beauty prep will change things.

We had a lot of discussion about H22.3 some time back, and my best short summary is that it was about several people who did everything possible to have all glory and credit reflect on them. (Pebbles in the stream pick up their shine from the sun and the moving water; they seem to sparkle but they are really not doing anything).

So, I take this as (1) don't over market yourself, make your hair beautiful but don't pretend to be something you are not, and (2)some other person (the one who sent the CDs on, or the one who received it) is only interested in things that makes them look good. If you can make them look good, they may use you. But their interest is making themselves look good, not anything about you.

I have to go make breakfast, but think also about H22 possibly being a comment on marketing, rather than the arts.

 

[arabella]

I think H22 means that you can put oil on your hair, and it shines, but that won't make it longer or really any more beautiful than it already is. I assume this means that if you aren't what they are looking for, no amount of beauty prep will change things.

We had a lot of discussion about H22.3 some time back, and my best short summary is that it was about several people who did everything possible to have all glory and credit reflect on them. (Pebbles in the stream pick up their shine from the sun and the moving water; they seem to sparkle but they are really not doing anything).

So, I take this as (1) don't over market yourself, make your hair beautiful but don't pretend to be something you are not, and (2)some other person (the one who sent the CDs on, or the one who received it) is only interested in things that makes them look good. If you can make them look good, they may use you. But their interest is making themselves look good, not anything about you.

I have to go make breakfast, but think also about H22 possibly being a comment on marketing, rather than the arts.

Hmmmm, that's less hopeful than Bruce's interpretation -- and it's obvious which I would hope to be true. The remit for their commissioning of programmes is wide-open in some respects, but on the other hand, these weren't produced specifically for them, but were excerpted from another project as a sample, to get an idea of whether my standards/focus suits them at all. Since word on Saturday that the CDs were passed on to the radio director there hasn't been any further indication what to expect.

I'm still at a loss in most respects on 22.2 and 22.3, and someone said to me today that his interpretation would be that my voice with an American accent that is soft would be especially good for this market. How he comes by that idea, I'm not sure.

The other thing that occurred to me is that, technically speaking, what can be produced at this local level isn't so wonderful as the equipment is crap and I had to fight for proper editing and didn't always get it -- although the content I thought was pretty impressive. Maybe they'll realise that drawback to the situation I have worked with? I'm just not sure.

 

[sooo]

The other thing that occurred to me is that, technically speaking, what can be produced at this local level isn't so wonderful as the equipment is crap and I had to fight for proper editing and didn't always get it -- although the content I thought was pretty impressive. Maybe they'll realise that drawback to the situation I have worked with? I'm just not sure.

Not ideal, but you're right, content, delivery and personality are generally foremost in importance.

I had a guy with no previous radio background doing a daily entertainment review feature for us. His background was theater and opera reviews, and he had to adjust to our less sophisticated formant and market, but he adapted quite well, and we were able to find a sponsor for his feature, which is what made it possible to retain him. That's actually another possible consideration. If you found a business or association to sponsor or grant your program, it would cost the affiliates nothing to carry your program or feature. With today's home recording software, it wouldn't cost much to produce your own programs from home. Also, universities often have some of the finest equipment, highest fidelity in the industry. There's a possibility of providing the feature free to them in exchange for your liberty to sell the program elsewhere. Just throwing ideas out there that have worked for others, at least in the US. Never know where something like this can lead if you get the breakthrough you need, it may lead to an unexpected opportunity you hadn't yet considered, providing you plant the seeds.

 

[arabella]

Not ideal, but you're right, content, delivery and personality are generally foremost in importance.

I had a guy with no previous radio background doing a daily entertainment review feature for us. His background was theater and opera reviews, and he had to adjust to our less sophisticated formant and market, but he adapted quite well, and we were able to find a sponsor for his feature, which is what made it possible to retain him. That's actually another possible consideration. If you found a business or association to sponsor or grant your program, it would cost the affiliates nothing to carry your program or feature. With today's home recording software, it wouldn't cost much to produce your own programs from home. Also, universities often have some of the finest equipment, highest fidelity in the industry. There's a possibility of providing the feature free to them in exchange for your liberty to sell the program elsewhere. Just throwing ideas out there that have worked for others, at least in the US. Never know where something like this can lead if you get the breakthrough you need, it may lead to an unexpected opportunity you hadn't yet considered, providing you plant the seeds.

I don't know the radio industry well, was doing this as a hobbyist insterest. I began almost on a "dare" and at first I was really scared and thought I might be crazy, then found I just loved it. The thing that amazed me was that there was a studio, a license to broadcast, and this tiny idea inherent in the station that they were "volunteers" and nothing could progress. It didn't matter if editing was complete, nor if they knew what their audience wanted, not even exactly WHAT was broadcast. There were evenings of people just yammering on that were inane. One Saturday my programme was to run the server went down and nobody was even aware. I had to call and complain. It drove me mad after researching interviews, getting Artists on board for interviews, traveling to meet people or setting up studio time for telephone calls, writing the surrounding scripts, choosing music to play, aligning and timing the program and then back to the studio with an instruction sheet and CDs to put the program together. All in all, it was a job in itself and I already had fulltime work. But I kept it going quite a while -- because I loved it. However, my urging of the station manager to make improvements fell on deaf ears [he was actually hostile to any suggestions] and I just got disappointed so many times by the lack of support. As a producer of grand opera and other theatre I was accustomed to having thing "spot on." And even relaxing that ideal, I still cringed hearing my program go on air with strange spikes and background noise because, as I had recorded, people in the next studio were screaming and fooling around.

So I'm reaching for the stars here, knowing that my program exhibits these flaws, however, I did send the best of them, thinking maybe that will suffice as an example and surely the "head" of radio realizes the constraints of local radio production. And your thoughts about finding sponsorship Bruce are exactly what I thought. I don't know why they never looked for advertising to keep some of these features going. I even offered to find my own sponsorship and was discouraged from doing it. But I think you are completely right -- this is what I need and I'll start campaigning for that as well. Even if the program is picked up -- it can't hurt. Also, we apparently have a radio studio and equipment in the new secondary academy near our town and I've asked for an appointment with the dean to see whether that could be utilised for recording.

Thanks again, Bruce, all very inspiring. Do 22.2 and 22.3 make any better sense -- taking all of this into consideration?

 

[sooo]

Yikes! Trial by fire and a real test of patience. If you still have a curious passion after that experience, I think it's surely worth pursuing; I'm a hopeless proponent of the "follow your bliss" theory.

Both lines 2 and 3 are difficult lines, but if the broader sense 22 is used, rather than the mere superficial, this speaks to the outward expression of life, or flowering, but also of waiting and persevering. Line 3 always comes to me during stressful moments where strengthening myself seems more appropriate than taking comfort. It's typically a hard time line.

A consideration for 41 is from Wilhelm's view of the individual reducing self interest for the good of the whole. This can mean adapting more of a servant role for the sake of a greater cause; in your case, such as the good of the arts or artists, or the audience or the employer. This is good for an employer to see in a prospective employee: a team player, rather than a self promoter. Not saying you're doing that, just how I see potential messages of that reading.

In any case, if you really enjoy this field, if you feel a calling to it, I would persevere.

(a little story, for what it's worth)
My entry into pursuing it as a career began with hearing the voice of God telling me, "you're going to sell radio." I didn't even know what that meant, but I believed it. This voice gave me two absolute conditions. One, there would be training, and two, there would be a salary, not just straight commission. The first station I called on was a real toilet, that offered neither. That's when I had the 'revelation' to call on the major market station. I already said what a huge let down that was. My wife was freaking out, since bills were coming due and I was not yet back to work after having a bad back injury from my last job, and the workman's compensation had not yet come in. But I was sure I was going to "sell radio." When I told my job rehab councilor my God told me story, he just paused awhile and said, ooh.. kay... but please continue going on the interviews I've set up for you, which I agreed to do. But in my heart, I knew radio was my destiny. A couple more weeks passed, when on the front page of the local Santa Rosa newspaper was a feature story of a new FM station coming to town. I knew that was my break. I went to a "cattle call" with over a hundred applicants, and absolutely knew that job was mine. I was hired, and they had retained the best radio marketing consultants in the business to train the recruits, none with prior radio experience, and paid a salary. God told me. Who was I to argue?

I share this only to say that if you feel a conviction to do this, I think it's wise to stick with it, at least for awhile, and even if doing something else more menial in the meantime.

Here's my 22 image and verse:

Hexagram 22

Beauty

Fire illuminates the mountain from below,

giving beauty to form.​

So, do I still feel optimistic about your reading? It may not be easy, or the way you think it should be, but I do think if your heart is in it, then follow it.

Again, good luck, and plant seeds, call contacts, ask for advice and any help you can get, stay humble but believe in your potential. Even if you called stations for in-person appointments to ask questions about breaking into the business, without directly applying for a gig, word gets around that someone is available to fill a niche that you're perfect to fill.

And along the way, you may stumble upon something you never expected. The Universe sometimes waits to see our willingness to humble ourselves before lifting us up.

 

[arabella]

Brilliant advice, Sooooo. I will persist. I LOVED the story about your employment counselor. I can just hear it and imagine the look that went with --- "OOOoooooh-kay, sure you did -- but go to the interviews anyhow." How weird that people believe that the world turns and progresses on dumbing it down and playing it safe when, in my life at least, the evidence says that progress grows out of some mix of passion and instinct, drive and persistence, determination and joy. And something about getting on the wavelength with other people who feel the same.

And what a breakthrough to get right out there on FM radio! My dream. As for the photo -- YES, that's the very rainbow I'm striving for. Will get there somehow!
Arabella

 

[gato]

My take on this is don't let yourself fooled by their affirmation, they are not your proper "mates"

 

[arabella]

My take on this is don't let yourself fooled by their affirmation, they are not your proper "mates"

WOW! So different a reading here. What makes you think this Gato? Where do you get this from the hexagrams or lines? Can you explain more?

 

[gato]

no, i cannot explain. is just an intuition, first image that popped when i read the text

 

[tigerintheboat]

The Shining

I'm still at a loss in most respects on 22.2 and 22.3

H22 is about superficial things...which is why it relates to marketing. Lines 2 and 3 are about ways of shining without actually generating any light yourself.

The other thing that occurred to me is that, technically speaking, what can be produced at this local level isn't so wonderful as the equipment is crap and I had to fight for proper editing and didn't always get it -- although the content I thought was pretty impressive. Maybe they'll realise that drawback to the situation I have worked with? I'm just not sure.

Again, I think their decisions will be self-serving and superficial. Don't look for deep thoughtful actions when receiving this hexagram.

What about your other job prospects, other kinds of situations?

 

[arabella]

Hi Tiger, At the moment, the horizon is a bit dim -- I don't see anything of import in the job market at all. And this was a "shot in the dark" but as I've had loads of compliments on the radio program, worth taking. As in most of the world, our region has massive unemployment so it's imperative to get creative and look to the places where funding and openings still exist. So, I'm still hopeful and if there's any glimmer of an opportunity I'll certainly go for it!

 

[Trojina]

You will know for a fact soon enough yes ?

 

[arabella]

You will know for a fact soon enough yes ?

I have called those who manage the commissioning process today to try to establish the answer to this T. All I can find out is that they thought it best for the Head of Radio to hear what I'd sent because it is freelance work and up to him entirely whether this represents "new talent" that he would cultivate in some way. So, the short answer i suppose is No, because I'd expect to hear only if he finds the programme concept, the content of what I've been doing, or my voice, interesting. So I wait and hope. And I don't know, as he must be a busy person, how long it might be before I hear -- if ever. Eventually, either way, I will know what has transpired. But I'm not sure about it being "soon."