hex 38 again :(

[goddessliss]

In my recent other thread asking about a man I've nicknamed Mr Tantrum I got 38>4 - so far there's been nothing to add or update on that thread.

I lent him a card that belongs to a set and I'd like it returned. It's not something that can be replaced without buying a whole new set and I've had these cards for a lot of years so it's kinda precious to me. I haven't heard from him at all so just sent a text message asking if he could please return my belonging. No response - not surprised although personally I don't understand what the problem is....if you don't like me all well and good but no need to act like an idiot about it.

What is the potential he will return what belongs to me

38.1.2.4>23

I'm seeing hex 23 as us splitting apart and/or possibly the card not with the set at the moment.

And hex 38 - well we've already established that we're in opposition because of some misunderstanding and Line 1, I haven't tried to force unity, reconciliation or anything, just looking at getting back what's mine - nothing wrong with that I reckon. Hopefully this line means the card will be returned.

Line 2 - Ginnie said in another thread somewhere that she's found line 2 often means a phone call - I wonder if that also can mean a text message but it's about an accidental meeting so not sure here...

Line 4 - I guess could mean the return of the card - works for me.

 

[loverofknowledge]

Hi - I sometimes receive 38 when I'm looking at a situation in a dramatically negative way, such that I feel estranged, and later it turns out that my fears were illusory or exaggerated.

Here's my specific take on this:

23 is the situation now, that you are split apart (or, like you say, it could be the card split from the others)

38.1 - the card will probably be returned, - and he will answer you in time -- that's my prediction from this line. Still, you may have to separate yourself from wickedness (if he's still into tantrums)
38.2 this could be a chance meeting (-- don't know how that applies here)
38.4 - a good outcome but be cautious considering the dangers

38. 1.2. 4

Line 1 comment: Remorse vanishes. Do not search: a lost horse returns by itself. When seeing the wicked, make no mistakes.
Line 2 comment: Meeting one's master in the lane. No fault.
Line 4 comment: Estranged, one meets the main person. A trustworthy exchange. Severity is without fault.

 

[steve]

Hi there

Thats a pretty crazy reading, its seems to contradict however line one when ever i get the line it means sit tight and dont stress and it will come to you, whats your is yours, will return, then the next line is saying a possible chance meeting, ( what are the possibility you will see him again, unless it means arrange a casual meeting}, then line 4 speaks of isolation but this could change if you see eye to eye.

38 is opposition as Loverofknowledge said is when you are feel you are kind of at a loss what to do, or not seeing eye to eye on any level,

So i am thinking you could text with look sorry to bother you again the card is important, could we meet in a coffee shop (random place) and just grab my card. 23 you part ways.
Line 4 maybe you clear the air but know where you stand with him.

Just an idea

Steve

 

[steve]

I just had another thought, if you are driving near my house by chance could you leave it in the letterbox,

Steve

 

[goddessliss]

I just had another thought, if you are driving near my house by chance could you leave it in the letterbox,

Steve

Ah Steve if it was only that easy but he leaves a good 3 hour drive away - I'm going past his town in a couple of months when I head to Melbourne so maybe I gotta wait til then....

 

[goddessliss]

Hi - I sometimes receive 38 when I'm looking at a situation in a dramatically negative way, such that I feel estranged, and later it turns out that my fears were illusory or exaggerated.

Here's my specific take on this:

23 is the situation now, that you are split apart (or, like you say, it could be the card split from the others)

38.1 - the card will probably be returned, - and he will answer you in time -- that's my prediction from this line. Still, you may have to separate yourself from wickedness (if he's still into tantrums)
38.2 this could be a chance meeting (-- don't know how that applies here)
38.4 - a good outcome but be cautious considering the dangers

38. 1.2. 4

Line 1 comment: Remorse vanishes. Do not search: a lost horse returns by itself. When seeing the wicked, make no mistakes.
Line 2 comment: Meeting one's master in the lane. No fault.
Line 4 comment: Estranged, one meets the main person. A trustworthy exchange. Severity is without fault.

As time and thoughts penetrate my illusion of what it was, because the chemistry and the laughter were so great, I kinda see that he's a somewhat emotionally abusive man. He spoke a bit about his last relationship and at first I thought she may have been a bit emotionally unstable but then when I started putting a few things together re his behaviours when he was around me I thought, shite actually she probably didn't know where she stood with him half the time. Apparently it was an on again off again relationship but it was all her fault.
And now when I look back at the way he left, his unresponsiveness to my initial text to make sure he was ok and then his lack of response to a very reasonable request to return my card I think you know he's doing the 'silent treatment' thing.
Hey I could be completely wrong.....

So your take on the lines about wickedness and being cautious certainly make sense to me....a chance meeting I'm not sure how that could happen we just live to far away from each other. Yi ya gotta be more forthcoming with line 2....

 

[loverofknowledge]

Hi,
Maybe line 2 (as Steve suggests) advises a chance meeting (or a casual meeting) rather than predicting one.
In light of what you say, it could be that this man is at least not very relationally sensitive if not, as you suggest, emotionally unstable or abusive.
Many people do not return messages or reciprocate kindness because they do not have great relational skills (low emotional intelligence), -- as I see it.
38.1 and 38.4 contain cautions. 38.2 may offer a suggestion to you-- find a casual way to get your card back, like going someplace where he'll be, or something like that. OTHERWISE, you could read 38.2 as metaphorical, relating to you inner guidance system.
Hope it all works out.
It sounds like you are letting go of illusions, about other people, that estrange you from trustworthy love relationships (another meaning of 38)

 

[goddessliss]

Hi,
It sounds like you are letting go of illusions, about other people, that estrange you from trustworthy love relationships (another meaning of 38)

Thanks loverofknowledge - I think you've totally hit the nail on the head with this sentence - when I did recognise his not so nice behaviours when we were together I thought, well that's ok we can work it out, but now I realise I wouldn't have been the only woman who'd thought they could be kind and patient with him as he works through his issues....and why should I, what's in it for me really....if I wanted someone like this I would've stayed with my ex husband.
Anyway lesson learned - if I don't get the card back it's not the end of the World it will just be a bit disappointing.

Thanks Steve and loverofknowledge for your support as I worked things out!!