Hex 60 unchanging as a course of action?!

[cris]

Good day Community

Anyone have experienced this as a response? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks! :bows:

 

[dancing white ferret]

Hello Cris... I would take 60 unchanging to mean enforcing limitations on yourself and/or others. The imagery is of water below and water above. More water would cause overflow... So, the IC is pointing out to you that this is pertinent to how you proceed somehow. Anything in your life sound like that? Perhaps some background would help here.

 

[bradford]

Appropriately paced action, with a measured amount of effort.
As a course of action, I couldn't say, because a course
is specific to a terrain. But that should be offered by studying
the boundaries of the situation.

 

[cris]

Thank you so much DWF and Bradford for your insights. The situation the question relates to is very complex, which is why I have preferred not to mention its background.

Bradford, I found an old thread in the archives where you gave the following contribution:

I'm going to focus on the line in 60.0 that says
"Bitter limitations do not invite commitment."

(...) This tends to get pretty adversarial, us against them. (...) use criticism constructively and work for win-win scenarios

This is exactly an "us against them" situation, and I believe the Yi is advising me to combine firmness and flexibility in order to overcome the impasse. It's also a reminder to "do my homework" first i.e. sort out all the details, which is the approach I had taken already when the conflict arose.

Thanks again :bows:

 

[cris]

Update

So here's an update. Today I sent out a formal communication. It's a step not only expected but even requested by the counterpart. The objective is to solve the disagreement, the stance I am taking may however not lead to a smooth solution. Before sending I asked:
Please give me advice on sending the communication.
51.1,4 > 2.

My quick attempt:
Hex 2 is the background - I have been confused and have looked for allies.
51.1: I'm getting cold feet but in the end the impact of the communication may not be so dramatic.
51.4: It will take some time before the situation gets clear.

I pondered it a bit and then sent it out...

Any insight will as usual be much appreciated.

 

[dancing white ferret]

From what I have been told about 51 on this site, it is usually a happy surprise. I don't know if 2 is the background or outcome. 2 is supposed to mean receptivity I thought. So I would have read this as line 1, a good shock opens up their thinking, and line 4, opens things up for easier communication. The 2 reads to me as their receptivity. Either way, it sounds like a more fortunate situation and whatever you sent them will at least get them thinking. Shake the mud out of their ears maybe. Hopefully someone else can provide their opinion as well, this is just my impression of the lines. I used LiSe's translation. It has really grown on me thanks to Loulisnowdrop!

Here are the lines according to LiSe Heyboer:

Initial 9 : The shock comes: fright fright. After that laughter and talk: shriek shriek. Auspicious.
Thoughtlessness is one of the biggest causes of trouble. Not stupidity, not inexperience, not taking too much risk. Just think of all the things you would have done different if you had thought before acting. So be grateful for shocks, they hit you out of thoughtlessness. Many have been saved from disaster by a shock, or even from death. And once your mind is awake again, look back and realize the waste of a life with a sleeping mind.
(Changes to hex.16)

9 at 4: The shock releases the slush.
The soul can only shine when the dirt is removed. As long as it is not clear, life is cliché’s, habits. Without a shock now and then the spirit gets lazy and the soul gets clogged. Nobody likes shocks but they are the only way to make life bright and interesting and worthwhile and true.
(Changes to hex.24)

 

[cris]

Thanks so much for your insight, DWF! Your interpretation fits like a glove. "Shake the mud out of their ears" is exactly what is needed now.

Besides, glad to receive a positive outlook. Before posting the casting on here, I searched the archives and was petrified to read that the same combo turned out to be an unpleasant cold shower in a couple of cases...!

So far no news from the counterpart. Will keep you posted!

 

[anemos]

I like Lise's take on those lines a lot.

What is not clear to me , and this is the reason I could not offer any insight , its the direction of the thunder. Sinse there will be a follow-up discussion on this matter I would interpreted 2 as not just wait for their reaction but prepare yourself on their objections.

 

[cris]

Update

So here's an update. I had to wait a couple of weeks (hex 2) and send a couple of reminders to get a response... which was highly unsatisfactory. Some aspects of my formal communication have been considered, many have been ignored. The situation is close to brinkmanship - and certanly still very muddy (51.4). So as I feared it was not a good omen.

Thanks again everyone

 

[anemos]

So here's an update. I had to wait a couple of weeks (hex 2) and send a couple of reminders to get a response... which was highly unsatisfactory. Some aspects of my formal communication have been considered, many have been ignored. The situation is close to brinkmanship - and certanly still very muddy (51.4). So as I feared it was not a good omen.

Thanks again everyone

sorry to hear that. yes it was not a good reading.

BUT... on the bright side ... maybe from their reaction you can trace better the "mud" and be more aware what you need to "clean".

Hex 2 is darkness. 51 is lighting .

Oh! Oh !
ha ! ha!
Aha !!!!

Good luck with that.

 

[cris]

Oh! Oh !
ha ! ha!
Aha !!!!

Well an unexpected twist of fate: I have received a second response partially amending the first one in a positive way! We are not there as yet but at least the situation has improved

I'm starting trusting hex 51 - and considering the frequency with which it's appeared in my readings recently this is great!

thank you M

 

[dancing white ferret]

Bradford wrote

Appropriately paced action, with a measured amount of effort.
As a course of action, I couldn't say, because a course
is specific to a terrain. But that should be offered by studying
the boundaries of the situation.

51.1.4>2 seems like it is just expounding on the way to act. That it is going to be a challenge to overcome this inertia. But, line 51.1 clearly states good fortune in the end. The transformed hex is 2 here, which says to me they will be receptive to your initiative to work this out. All I think this was pointing out to you was to be careful about getting stuck at a point where there would not be yielding or resistance, a standstill, but not an impasse. And consider how you will deal with that. And looking at 51.1 with fresh eyes, I think it could be suggesting that there is a value in this 51 atmosphere that keeps the mind awake, and in the end, facilitates good fortune.

Glad to hear the good fortune has started to reveal itself .

DWF

 

[flashlight]

Good day Community

Anyone have experienced this as a response? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks! :bows:

FWIW over a year later - I just got 60 unchanging, asking how a hearing in front of a judge would go. Hilary's "A noble one works out and reckons the measures,
Reflecting on character in action."
was an AH HA moment for me, telling me in no uncertain terms that the judge would consider seriously how each party's character could/would transpire from behavior - and dole out measures accordingly.