Hexagram 15.1.2.3.4>54 and mental hospital

[yamabushi]

Yesterday i do a casting for my friend who has serious psychological problems. Question was will she find herself in mental hospital. Answer; 15.1.2.3.4>54. According to me there is no mental hospital bit whatever she do, she will suffer misfortune. Any ideas?

 

[diamanda]

I agree with your interpretation, I don't see any hospital in the answer either. My guess is that your friend will give it a small & short try to solve her own issues by herself, but she will soon give up and do nothing further about her problems. Or she might not even try to solve her problems and just concentrate on other secondary issues (54).

 

[yamabushi]

Anyway, i think that both options ( staying passive or concentrate on secondary options ) will not work and some sort of serious misfortune will happened. From this point it cannot be avoided.

 

[yamabushi]

Also i do another casting; is there any dangerous from suicide? Answer: H 39 un, according to this-no. She will be just stuck in situation for a long time, maybe even years, whithout even try to solve anything.

 

[Trojina]

Anyway, i think that both options ( staying passive or concentrate on secondary options ) will not work and some sort of serious misfortune will happened. From this point it cannot be avoided.

Where exactly do you see serious misfortune in 15.1.2.3.4>54 ? When I saw it the first thought I had was that whatever needs to happen will happen (15) and she may not have a lot of choice about it (54) that is she might get put into hospital without her consent. Not that I see 'hospital' here or in particular anywhere in Yi, but that word was in your question.

Anyway I cannot for the life of me see where you get the idea of serious misfortune from in the reading. I mean I know your yourself can see she has a serious condition but it's not in the reading at all.

Danger from suicide ? 39uc ? Not sure I can comment. It appears she could do with using some help rather than soldiering on alone that's all I see.

 

[yamabushi]

Hexagram 54- undertakings bring misfortune

 

[yamabushi]

Btw, i think you are completely right- hex 39, going to see great man, expert person will help her.

 

[Trojina]

Hexagram 54- undertakings bring misfortune

That doesn't mean every time one receives 54 'serious misfortune' will occur, there's more to it than that. Also she isn't undertaking anything, isn't seeking help, but it may be given to her anyway given she is the second wife here, her wishes are not the most important thing. Things can be taken out of her hands.

 

[yamabushi]

That doesn't mean every time one receives 54 'serious misfortune' will occur, there's more to it than that. Also she isn't undertaking anything, isn't seeking help, but it may be given to her anyway given she is the second wife here, her wishes are not the most important thing. Things can be taken out of her hands.

I agree. Anyway it was pure question, will she end in mental hospital. We can say that answer is no, but she will not be happy. According to H 39, she will get help. Everybody agree?

 

[diamanda]

I agree. Anyway it was pure question, will she end in mental hospital. We can say that answer is no, but she will not be happy. According to H 39, she will get help. Everybody agree?

I don't think she will end up in a mental hospital, no.
39 says she 'should' get help, not that she 'will'.

 

[rosada]

The Judgement for hexagram 54, "Undertakings bring misfortune" doesn't mean whatever the person does will bring misfortune. It means that when one is in the position of The Marrying Maiden they must follow proper protocol. If they were to try to initiate anything it would not go well.
I wonder if this is saying your friend is feeling that she has no options? Or perhaps it means the best thing for her to do is to follow her path, not try to make massive changes, take things one day at a time.

 

[Trojina]

I agree. Anyway it was pure question, will she end in mental hospital. We can say that answer is no, but she will not be happy. According to H 39, she will get help. Everybody agree?

I don't agree because how do you think this answer can say 'no she will not go to a mental hospital'. Why would hexagram 15 with line 1.2.3.4>54 say that ? Or rather how can it say that ? Where in this cast do you/could you see 'she will not go to hospital' ? You have to look at the answer behind the question.. which is all I can do, and to me it looks a picture of whatever needs to happen, is the sensible thing, has a good chance of happening but possibly the option to go or not in the end isn't hers (54). Maybe she's not in charge as much as you think ? I don't know.

It's not laid down in stone already whether she will go or not, I can't use Yi to determine what someone hasn't yet decided to do and even if I could with this cast I'd see nothing about not going/going to hospital in any definite way

The 39 yes she could do with getting some help and I wonder if in the end because of the 15>54 answer some sensible person or Dr or health system actually does make sure she gets the help she needs.

I hope so.